The NFL needs a new strategy

MeTed

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We had tolerance back in the day for some wild behavior but not all bad or illegal behavior . Landry released some very talented players like Rentzel , Hollywood and Duane who were important parts to our championships without any mandates from the league.
Do me a favor and read the Full Police Report and the sworn testimony from witnesses. Reach your own conclusion instead of relying on what the NFL is feeding you.

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Do me a favor and read the Full Police Report and the sworn testimony from witnesses. Reach your own conclusion instead of relying on what the NFL is feeding you.

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This is where many fans are missing the NFL stance. It isnt about the legal case. There is evidence of the girl with bruises. A NFL player is involved . Regardless if it can proved he inflicted it's tarnishing in the leagues image and they're aren't willing to risk it.

The wide latitude of the policy allows them to hand down suspensions which can be appealed and amended .

It's a process people. The NFL is providing a perception they're being tough to protect their image . It's not about determining a verdict in a criminal case.
 

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This is where many fans are missing the NFL stance. It isnt about the legal case. There is evidence of the girl with bruises. A NFL player is involved . Regardless if it can proved he inflicted it's tarnishing in the leagues image and they're aren't willing to risk it.

The wide latitude of the policy allows them to hand down suspensions which can be appealed and amended .

It's a process people. The NFL is providing a perception they're being tough to protect their image . It's not about determining a verdict in a criminal case.
Bingo. Perception is reality... as Wall Street often states.
 

MeTed

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This is where many fans are missing the NFL stance. It isnt about the legal case. There is evidence of the girl with bruises. A NFL player is involved . Regardless if it can proved he inflicted it's tarnishing in the leagues image and they're aren't willing to risk it.

The wide latitude of the policy allows them to hand down suspensions which can be appealed and amended .

It's a process people. The NFL is providing a perception they're being tough to protect their image . It's not about determining a verdict in a criminal case.
SMH ... you're missing the point completely. I understand EXACTLY what the NFL is doing. I also understand Zeke probably has no chance of winning this. If he does then it will be through the appeal process not the (inevitable) court hearing. The point of contention is if it's just or fair. They have an obligation to seek truth not cover their ***. If he's guilty then he's guilty but in cases such as these they better have some direct evidence not circumstantial. The affidavit from Alvarez Jackson provides a chronological breakdown which may or may not refute the NFL findings. If circumstantial evidence is the standard then why was it ignored by the NFL? Do you care enough to form your own opinion? Or do you just see an outcome and roll with it?
 

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This is what I don't get. How come the NBA, MLB, and NHL doesn't have drama over player suspensions like the NFL seems to be having last few years. Maybe they do and I haven't paid attention. But the other sports seem relatively quiet compared to football.

Agreed. The NFL is a business, not a court of law. In any other business, if management feels that you have embarrassed the company, they fire you. The NFL treats suspensions as tantamount to jail time.
 

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SMH ... you're missing the point completely. I understand EXACTLY what the NFL is doing. I also understand Zeke probably has no chance of winning this. If he does then it will be through the appeal process not the (inevitable) court hearing. The point of contention is if it's just or fair. They have an obligation to seek truth not cover their ***. If he's guilty then he's guilty but in cases such as these they better have some direct evidence not circumstantial. The affidavit from Alvarez Jackson provides a chronological breakdown which may or may not refute the NFL findings. If circumstantial evidence is the standard then why was it ignored by the NFL? Do you care enough to form your own opinion? Or do you just see an outcome and roll with it?
Then you've missed my point. I'm not offering my opinion on whether he's guilty or not of this crime.

I'm just arguing my opinion on why the NFL rendered its decision which I'm leaning on agreeing with based on the conduct policy.
 

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No doubt but what it should be very different -- what happens in the future remains to be seen. I'm certainly hoping for it to change. The players will have to stand up for their rights, for a change. Their fate will rest in their determination to make it happen. I'll wish them luck in a tough fight.
Tell that to KaeperPICK & Skittles:laugh:
 

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Then you've missed my point. I'm not offering my opinion on whether he's guilty or not of this crime.

I'm just arguing my opinion on why the NFL rendered its decision which I'm leaning on agreeing with based on the conduct policy.

You agree with their decision based on a policy and not the facts of what happened?

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You agree with their decision based on a policy and not the facts of what happened?

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Right! That's all I'm concerned with is how it effects the Cowboys with the suspension . His guilt or innocence in the case is of no concern to me . I'm not a detective or prosecutor.
 

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Right! That's all I'm concerned with is how it effects the Cowboys with the suspension . His guilt or innocence in the case is of no concern to me . I'm not a detective or prosecutor.

That makes no sense.

Their decision is supposed to be on whether or not he violated the policy. The facts of the situation dictate that. If you are only concerned about how it affects the Cowboys with the suspension, then you should be hoping that they are not giving him a suspension when he did not violate the policy. If the facts show he did not violate the policy and he is suspended anyway, logic would dictate that you would be upset about that if that is the only thing you are concerned with.
 

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That makes no sense.

Their decision is supposed to be on whether or not he violated the policy. The facts of the situation dictate that. If you are only concerned about how it affects the Cowboys with the suspension, then you should be hoping that they are not giving him a suspension when he did not violate the policy. If the facts show he did not violate the policy and he is suspended anyway, logic would dictate that you would be upset about that if that is the only thing you are concerned with.
I can hope he doesn't receive a suspension because it will hurt the Cowboys while agreeing with the NFL decision based on the conduct policy. Not sure why that's so difficult to grasp?

I don't have all the facts. My decision is based on a unanimous decision 4-0 by the NFL panel.
 

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Why would they want all of this power to punish like this?

They have constantly screwed it up and they know it. They can't get it right.

I don't believe they want any part of it anymore.

They will cave on this quick in CBA negotiations.

Why would any business deliberately take steps to hurt its own business...?
 

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I can hope he doesn't receive a suspension because it will hurt the Cowboys while agreeing with the NFL decision based on the conduct policy. Not sure why that's so difficult to grasp?

I don't have all the facts. My decision is based on a unanimous decision 4-0 by the NFL panel.

Other people told you so? Can't you look at the evidence and start forming your own opinion? To each their own, I guess, but I really hope that's not how you look at everything in the world or your life.
 

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This is where many fans are missing the NFL stance. It isnt about the legal case. There is evidence of the girl with bruises. A NFL player is involved . Regardless if it can proved he inflicted it's tarnishing in the leagues image and they're aren't willing to risk it.

The wide latitude of the policy allows them to hand down suspensions which can be appealed and amended .

It's a process people. The NFL is providing a perception they're being tough to protect their image . It's not about determining a verdict in a criminal case.

I don't think you read the police report. The bruises she got was from a bar fight with another girl. If that was Elliott that beat her up she would not look like she was smiling with her hair nice and neat like that.
 

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Other people told you so? Can't you look at the evidence and start forming your own opinion? To each their own, I guess, but I really hope that's not how you look at everything in the world or your life.


I'm not a detective or prosecutor so it's not my expertise to dissect this case plus I don't have access to all of the evidence nor present for the interrogations.

So yes again I'm dependent on more expertise to arrive at their decisions . I do have opinions on their decisions which I have arrived .
 

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I don't think you read the police report. The bruises she got was from a bar fight with another girl. If that was Elliott that beat her up she would not look like she was smiling with her hair nice and neat like that.
I'm not an expert in evaluating bruises. My opinions are mostly based on 4 investigators with the NFL who arrived at 4-0 decision there was evidence to rule physical violence occurred and they believed Elliott was involved which was enough for a violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.

I do have more experience in years of seeing local officials not pressing charges on the local football players . And I also know that while there are many contributing factors which lead to a DA not feeling there's enough to prosecute doesnt mean the suspect is innocent .
 

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Ahhhh.... No.

Owners - well most - make their money from side contract sponsors.
Before the Cowboys step on the field Jerry makes 600 million each season.
That's not TV contract money.

There are lots of revenue flows for NFL Owners.
Ticket Sales
TV money from networks
Side sponsorships both inside stadium and outside.
Team Gear sales.
And if you're living in the metroplex - many - many team product sponsors.

And if the Cowboys asked for an equal split the way the TV ratings go then all bets are off.
My point was sponsor's don't like
what some players do.
Any of them could threaten to pull out.
 
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