The NFL needs to look at receiver gloves

[BAT]

http://www.complex.com/sneakers/2013/08/testing-out-the-stickiest-football-glove

Look at that article and those pics and then try and hold a football in the same fashion bare handed. You simply can't.

Ignoring that the gloves were the biggest factor in Odell making that catch is just shortsighted.

Cowboys need to get Cutter X40s for every RB, WR, TE, DB and LB on the team. Heck get a pair for every position except QB. That's crazy tech right there.

Both Murray and Dez could have used it during playoffs.

 

[MapleLeaf]

So what if they were the biggest factor?
It's not like we see guys wearing gloves catching the ball with three fingers.
And we definitely don't see guys with no gloves catching the ball with three fingers.
So given the real data and the only sampling we have of players catching balls with or without gloves, we're left with ODB's catch being one of the most, if not the most, amazing catch many of us have ever scene.

In the era before gloves that ball hits the turf. Simple as that.

Minimization of the technology is ignoring what the gloves meant to the process of the catch.

It was an amazing job of getting his body In position to make the catch. It's an amazing job of hand eye coordination.

But without the gloves the ball doesn't stop on his three fingers.

 

[tyke1doe]

In the era before gloves that ball hits the turf. Simple as that.

Minimization of the technology is ignoring what the gloves meant to the process of the catch.

It was an amazing job of getting his body In position to make the catch. It's an amazing job of hand eye coordination.

But without the gloves the ball doesn't stop on his three fingers.

So I'll ask you like I asked all the rest: Can you cite, reference, link, show or offer a time in the era before gloves that a receiver caught a ball with three fingers while falling backwards?

If you can, then I will wholeheartedly agree. Otherwise, we're left with the catch being the most amazing NFL catch many of us have ever seen, gloves and no gloves.

Simple as that.

 

[MapleLeaf]

So I'll ask you like I asked all the rest: Can you cite, reference, link, show or offer a time in the era before gloves that a receiver caught a ball with three fingers while falling backwards?

If you can, then I will wholeheartedly agree. Otherwise, we're left with the catch being the most amazing NFL catch many of us have ever seen, gloves and no gloves.

Simple as that.

I think we are missing each other on this issue. You state you want evidence before gloves and the OP is suggesting it has never happened until this player did this with gloves.

I replied with a simplistic version of the breakdown elements of the catch where I propose the final element of the catch is stopping the ball on your fingers.

Everything about the catch by OBJ was amazing until the ball contacted his three fingers. Great body position. Great hand eye coordination. But the instant the ball was trapped by his three fingers that was great technology.

I agree with the OP no gloves, no catch. Everything would be present, but at the instant the ball hits OBJ's three fingers it slips out.

Great catch assisted by great tech. I believe this is what the OP may be suggesting.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think we are missing each other on this issue. You state you want evidence before gloves and the OP is suggesting it has never happened until this player did this with gloves.

I replied with a simplistic version of the breakdown elements of the catch where I propose the final element of the catch is stopping the ball on your fingers.

Everything about the catch by OBJ was amazing until the ball contacted his three fingers. Great body position. Great hand eye coordination. But the instant the ball was trapped by his three fingers that was great technology.

I agree with the OP no gloves, no catch. Everything would be present, but at the instant the ball hits OBJ's three fingers it slips out.

Great catch assisted by great tech. I believe this is what the OP may be suggesting.

Fair enough. But I think it's a trivial matter. Why?

1. Gloves are part of the game.
2. Technology is a part of our lives. We're not going back to the Stone Ages.
3. Guys without gloves aren't making such catches.
4. It was still ruled a catch.

Of course, we know that gloves help guys catch the ball better. And ovens help us prepare foods faster than an open flame fueled by burning wood. If my wife makes a scrumptious meal using an oven, it would be strange if I replied, "Well, you know, honey. If you had made this meal over an open fire it would have been more impressive and more scrumptious."

We evaluate our lives based on what we have and the resources at our disposal, not necessarily based on what we don't have. And beauty and amazement can be found with technology just as it can without.

That's my point.

But thanks for the discussion and your input. I appreciate it.

 

[George]

I agree with you about the gloves, it makes dropping the ball difficult. But OBJ's catch was ridiculous - he caught it with 3 fingers. The gloves didn't have much to do with that one.

He doesn't make the catch without the gloves.

 

[joseephuss]

Cowboys need to get Cutter X40s for every RB, WR, TE, DB and LB on the team. Heck get a pair for every position except QB. That's crazy tech right there.

Both Murray and Dez could have used it during playoffs.

Why not the QB? They could at least wear one on their non-throwing hand.

What brand gloves does Dez wear? Anyone know?

 

[erod]

It's getting attention now.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/30/nfl-may-take-a-closer-look-at-gloves/

 

[ConstantReboot]

They already took away a catch from Bryant. Lets not take away his gloves as well.

 

[JDSmith]

It's getting attention now.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/30/nfl-may-take-a-closer-look-at-gloves/

Saw that posted on another forum and I immediately thought of this thread.

So the gloves make it easier to make unbelievable catches? Who knew?

 

[erod]

They already took away a catch from Bryant. Lets not take away his gloves as well.

Gloves shouldn't be like fly paper.

 

[speedkilz88]

Gloves shouldn't be like fly paper.

The nfl needs to stop spectacular catches? Yeah, that's the ticket. The original stick-um was banned because it made a mess, not because it helped Fred Biletnikoff catch a ball he shouldn't have caught.

 

[EST_1986]

Gloves shouldn't be like fly paper.

All we need to do is get Usain Bolt and stick magic gloves on him and send him on go routes

 

[Picksix]

The nfl needs to stop spectacular catches? Yeah, that's the ticket. The original stick-um was banned because it made a mess, not because it helped Fred Biletnikoff catch a ball he shouldn't have caught.

Right. The stickum would get all over the ball, the uniforms, the grass...everything. Don't have that problem with the gloves. If the gloves are standard and everyone has access to them, I don't see a problem. It's not like a PED issue, because that can be so variable, plus the fact that many of them are unhealthy and against the law. They're gloves.

 

[Proximo]

I don't care about the gloves...as long as they're available to every receiver that wants to wear them...which they are. Everybody experiences the same benefits, therefore nobody is cheating.

 

[rynochop]

Those gloves are why i was never as impressed with the Beckam catch as world seemed to be. Im sure dez could make a similar catch with those rubber gloves

 

[jimmy40]

no doubt the gloves help but it seems like there's just as many dropped passes as ever.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Gloves shouldn't be like fly paper.

I'm being sarcastic. Thats because if there any chance of any Cowboy using something to their advantage they will make a rule about it. You think Beckham will get some flack because he wears those gloves? I doubt it. However, Bryant might. They'll say that it gives HIM an unfair advantage thus the rules need to be changed.

 

[erod]

Sorry, Dez, but I'm about to attack your craft.

If you haven't had a chance to play catch with today's receiver gloves, I highly recommend it. I had a chance the other day with some young'uns I know. At my age, playing football isn't really in the itinerary anymore, but one of these kids had some and let me try them out.

Let's just say, afterward you won't be nearly as impressed with Odell Beckham's catch, or any other one-handed grab for that matter. These things are incredibly sticky, like stickum times ten. If you have big hands, a one-handed grab with these gloves is not a big deal at all. I have average hands, and I was pulling them down with ease.

I think the NFL needs to look at this. We've been talking a lot lately about the air pressure in the football, and how it makes it easier to hang on to the football. These gloves have a much more pronounced effect in that regard.

Shame on any NFL receiver for dropping a well-thrown ball with these insta-catch contraptions.

I realize the defenders can wear them, too, and I know the league wants offense, but I prefer the purer days when receivers just taped up their fingers like Pearson and Novacek. Even the early 90s gloves had nowhere near this much stickiness, and a lot of receiver refused to wear them. I can't imagine any receiver not wanting to wear these gloves today because they're a huge advantage.

And there's my old fart rant for the day.

Looks like the NFL agrees.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/19/nfl-plans-to-create-a-standard-for-gloves/

 

[Sarge]

If all WR's can wear them I don't see what difference it makes.