Discussion in 'Covid Zone' started by Reality, Mar 9, 2020.
Who said that? Show the post.
Coronavirus deaths per million:
USA - 242.71
Germany - 91.27
Again it’s a false equivalency. You know it and I know it.
Anyone with a brain or without an agenda know it.
Why are you so frightened of your own shadow?
No, it really isn't. We, as a society, are willing to accept the risks inherent in maintaining a functioning society. We risk car accidents, we risk disease, many people risk on-the-job accidents, many people even put their own lives on the line with heightened risk to do their jobs.
And all this is not to mention how many people risk their health and safety for recreational/pleasurable experiences. Tobacco kills half a million people annually, and it is purely recreational.
I am a young ("young" meaning young enough to not be in a high risk age group), healthy individual. As such, I would be in a lot more danger of dying on my drive to work than from this virus.
Lol, you wish.
So ignorant. People who want to smoke take that risk and they can’t go out and spread their cancer to anyone else. Get it Clyde? Of course not.
Yeah I know all this.
They’re still not the same thing and saying “well what about car accidents” isn’t an effective argument against why the lockdowns happened. Because car accidents aren’t the same thing as a viral pandemic. So anytime somebody says “well what about car accidents” it’s a weak argument and creating a false equivalency because the risks aren’t the same ans the lockdowns happened to allow our healthcare system to prepare and not get overwhelmed, while also put testing in place. Neither of which are an issue with the average car accident deaths that happen throughout the year.
Like I said I want to start opening things up smartly, meaning to allow us young folks to do our thing as long as there’s PPE and such in place.
But bringing up car accidents when questioning the need for lock downs in the first place
Is a piss poor argument. Just awful considering the differences.
Pneumonia fatalities alone increased 250% from February to April.
The number of traffic fatalities hasn't changed significantly, has it?
38 coronavirus deaths 2 months ago. 80,000 today. Get it yet? No of course you refuse to.
If traffic deaths did increase 250% in 3 months, rest assured the government would be doing things to address it.
It’s almost like different problems require different solutions. It’s a strange concept apparently.
The risk of driving hasn't changed. Its "constancy" is the very thing that makes it a bad analogy.
Just because they are both issues doesn’t make them equivalent. So it’s still a false equivalency.
It’s still comparing apples and oranges. Apples and oranges have similarities too.
Of course there are plenty of things that present risk in life. That doesn’t make them all equivalent. So you making that point means nothing.
It's like we're so hungry for good news that we're trying to rationalize it into existence.
West Virginia 32
Puerto Rico 33
South Dakota 38
North Dakota 47
North Carolina 55
South Carolina 67
I'm sure you get the point.
I mean there has been some good news. Social distancing and the stay at home orders have been more effective than a lot of people expected. The antibody testing shows a lot of people are asymptomatic.
So it’s possible to look at the bright side of things and make rational, well reasoned arguments for why it’s time for businesses and some states to start opening up with proper precautions. There’s no reason for people to use logical fallacies to try and make their argument.
One point you could make is that NY's Nursing Home policy has a higher death rate than all the States listed above that.
Constant risk does not make it a less valid or comparable risk.
There is a risk. There are lots of risks. People shrug off many other risks (that combined are way way way way more risky than CV).
Yes unfortunately lots of deaths here in the US. More than any country BY FAR.