The OurLads.com 2006 All-Rookie Team

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Guess how many Cowboys rookies made the OurLads.com All-Rookie team. If you guessed more than zero, you're wrong. Several teams who were already better than us, and had lower picks than us had multiple picks. That tells me once again that we are being out-drafted by too many teams. The ONLY way the Cowboys are going to get back to the promised land is to bring in the best personnel people in the NFL. I'll tell ya what, we aint got em now.

Here is the link: http://ourlads.com/2007allrookie.cfm.

Just a few teams & the players they drafted last year:

The one that bothers me the most is Dawan Landry, FS, Geogia Tech, who was taken by the Ravens with the #146th pick in the 5th rd. Dude is 6-0, 220, and played FS like a future Pro-Bowler. We took Skyler Green with the 125th pick, and Pat Watkins with the 138th. Landry was available both picks. Our FS problem could be over with had we had the kind of personnel talent that Baltimore has in Ozzie Newsome. He taught Phil Savage everything he knows, but instead of Jerry Jones hiring him, the Browns grabbed him a couple of years ago. Did it help? Well, two Browns rookies, Kamerion Wimbley & D'Qwell Jackson, were two LBs selected to the team, so you decide.

Another player on the All-Rookie team who could have settled our FS dilema was Ko Simpson, FS, S.C., 6-1, 200, 4.45. Ko has a 41" vertical, and was a first-team All-American selection by the Football Writers Assoc. & CBS Sports in just his sophomore year. He started all 16 games for the Bills, & had 77 TT, 2 ints., and a sack. We could have taken him with either our 2nd or 3rd pick, although I would rather trade Fasano for him than Hatcher. He sure would have looked good with a star on his helmet, and with his speed, I doubt we would have gotten burned nearly as many times as we did with Watkins at the FS helm.

Lastly, taking Fasano, who, by the way, was not on the team, instead of one of the many talented OTs sitting there waiting in the 2nd rd. still burns my butt. Here is the list of all of the OL that were there for the taking that made the All-Rookie team:
  • Nick Mangold, Jets...Was there in the 1st at #18.
  • Marcus McNeil, Chargers....My biggest beef. Was there at our original #49 pick, but we traded it....for the pick we took Green with:eek: . Of course, S.D. once again out-drafts us & gets the right player.
  • Andrew Whitworth, Bengals....Was taken two picks after we took the much needed Fasano.
Not only did every OL do well for the above teams, they started & were integral parts to teams that performed very well this season. Fasano was a part-time TE who could have been Tony Curtis, or Brett Pierce, & we wouldn't have known the freaking difference!

We've got to do MUCH better THIS April. The only reason the Chargers aren't strolling to the SB is that they did enough stupid things to lose two games. They are still the best team in the NFL & sooner or later, will draft so many great players, even their stupidity won't stop them. We can't get that good if we keep passing up great players for players we already have, or for lessor players.
 

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You should have been sitting right next to Jerry and Bill with your crystal ball.:rolleyes:
 

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Cogan;1318170 said:
Guess how many Cowboys rookies made the OurLads.com All-Rookie team. If you guessed more than zero, you're wrong. Several teams who were already better than us, and had lower picks than us had multiple picks. That tells me once again that we are being out-drafted by too many teams. The ONLY way the Cowboys are going to get back to the promised land is to bring in the best personnel people in the NFL. I'll tell ya what, we aint got em now.

Here is the link: http://ourlads.com/2007allrookie.cfm.

Just a few teams & the players they drafted last year:

The one that bothers me the most is Dawan Landry, FS, Geogia Tech, who was taken by the Ravens with the #146th pick in the 5th rd. Dude is 6-0, 220, and played FS like a future Pro-Bowler. We took Skyler Green with the 125th pick, and Pat Watkins with the 138th. Landry was available both picks. Our FS problem could be over with had we had the kind of personnel talent that Baltimore has in Ozzie Newsome. He taught Phil Savage everything he knows, but instead of Jerry Jones hiring him, the Browns grabbed him a couple of years ago. Did it help? Well, two Browns rookies, Kamerion Wimbley & D'Qwell Jackson, were two LBs selected to the team, so you decide.

Another player on the All-Rookie team who could have settled our FS dilema was Ko Simpson, FS, S.C., 6-1, 200, 4.45. Ko has a 41" vertical, and was a first-team All-American selection by the Football Writers Assoc. & CBS Sports in just his sophomore year. He started all 16 games for the Bills, & had 77 TT, 2 ints., and a sack. We could have taken him with either our 2nd or 3rd pick, although I would rather trade Fasano for him than Hatcher. He sure would have looked good with a star on his helmet, and with his speed, I doubt we would have gotten burned nearly as many times as we did with Watkins at the FS helm.

Lastly, taking Fasano, who, by the way, was not on the team, instead of one of the many talented OTs sitting there waiting in the 2nd rd. still burns my butt. Here is the list of all of the OL that were there for the taking that made the All-Rookie team:
  • Nick Mangold, Jets...Was there in the 1st at #18.
  • Marcus McNeil, Chargers....My biggest beef. Was there at our original #49 pick, but we traded it....for the pick we took Green with:eek: . Of course, S.D. once again out-drafts us & gets the right player.
  • Andrew Whitworth, Bengals....Was taken two picks after we took the much needed Fasano.
Not only did every OL do well for the above teams, they started & were integral parts to teams that performed very well this season. Fasano was a part-time TE who could have been Tony Curtis, or Brett Pierce, & we wouldn't have known the freaking difference!

We've got to do MUCH better THIS April. The only reason the Chargers aren't strolling to the SB is that they did enough stupid things to lose two games. They are still the best team in the NFL & sooner or later, will draft so many great players, even their stupidity won't stop them. We can't get that good if we keep passing up great players for players we already have, or for lessor players.

Mangold was the top rated center coming out last year and I liked him very much. I was in favor of drafting him but he was not the highest rated player on our board so we didn't do it.

McNeil was a very good player at A&M but, he had serious questions about his health. Narrowing of the spin, I believe. There was little question he would play well but for how long? I can't fault the organization for that one. He could be all world this year and next but be out of the game in his third. Just no way to tell on those kinds of things.

Whitworth had issues coming out of LSU as I recall. Some people loved his size, some didn't think he graded out very well.
 

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How many other teams could have had those players? I realize crystal ball threads are fun - but why, when focusing on the whiffs, would you ignore the hits? Kosier has beena big upgrade. Colombo was retrieved off the scrap heap. Ayodele was a disappointment in Jacksonville, and had a very nice season with us. Watkins came on strong at the end of the year, a 5th round rookie. Carpenter played fantastic to close out the year. Hatcher showed alot of talent. We've gotten Ware, Barber, Crayton, and others.

But we boo-hoo because some rag didn't put our players on an all-rookie team. Awesome.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1318177 said:
Mangold was the top rated center coming out last year and I liked him very much. I was in favor of drafting him but he was not the highest rated player on our board so we didn't do it.

McNeil was a very good player at A&M but, he had serious questions about his health. Narrowing of the spin, I believe. There was little question he would play well but for how long? I can't fault the organization for that one. He could be all world this year and next but be out of the game in his third. Just no way to tell on those kinds of things.

Whitworth had issues coming out of LSU as I recall. Some people loved his size, some didn't think he graded out very well.

Marcus McNeilL played at Auburn. Reggie McNeil played at A&M. :laugh2:
 

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superpunk;1318180 said:
How many other teams could have had those players? I realize crystal ball threads are fun - but why, when focusing on the whiffs, would you ignore the hits? Kosier has beena big upgrade. Colombo was retrieved off the scrap heap. Ayodele was a disappointment in Jacksonville, and had a very nice season with us. Watkins came on strong at the end of the year, a 5th round rookie. Carpenter played fantastic to close out the year. Hatcher showed alot of talent. We've gotten Ware, Barber, Crayton, and others.

But we boo-hoo because some rag didn't put our players on an all-rookie team. Awesome.


Funny you mentioned that.

What about Romo? And don't tell me it's Sean Payton, because he wasn't the one pulling the trigger.
 

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joseephuss;1318189 said:
Marcus McNeilL played at Auburn. Reggie McNeil played at A&M. :laugh2:

My bad, I guess I'm just so used to talking crap with HH. Can't wait till he comes back thou.

:laugh2:

Your correct, of course, but the medical eval is still true about Marcus McNeill as I recall.
 

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superpunk;1318180 said:
How many other teams could have had those players? I realize crystal ball threads are fun - but why, when focusing on the whiffs, would you ignore the hits? Kosier has beena big upgrade. Colombo was retrieved off the scrap heap. Ayodele was a disappointment in Jacksonville, and had a very nice season with us. Watkins came on strong at the end of the year, a 5th round rookie. Carpenter played fantastic to close out the year. Hatcher showed alot of talent. We've gotten Ware, Barber, Crayton, and others.

But we boo-hoo because some rag didn't put our players on an all-rookie team. Awesome.

Because that would not fit the agenda driven post some people like to post. They just don't want to admit to the facts.. That BP was going with a 2 TE set, which requires 2 TE,, the name should give it away, but with injuries to 2 of the 4 TE, we had to go to a more traditional setting. They also dont want to admit that even though BP as missed on a few players, tha he has brought a bright future to this team, with little investment. Romo, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, columbo, and if Pat M and Proctor pan out, that's Gravey.
 

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joseephuss;1318189 said:
Marcus McNeilL played at Auburn. Reggie McNeil played at A&M. :laugh2:

CREDIBILITY

Sorry, ABQ, I couldn't resist.
 

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hmm, lets see

Draft an OT, OH wait thats right Columbo played stellar for us. And We do have MCq Behind Flozell. SO OT Would have been a wasted pick

C- Gurode did just fine, another wasted pick.

G- maybe but we did get procter, who i see replacing Rivera.

Moving on FS. WE drafted WAtkins, the kid had high and potential, we still dont know how he's gonna do. ANother year in the systema and he could be right on.

Fasno At the time once again, Parcells was not antipating having Romo play, so the Two TE system was gonna be used. We needed a second TE. We got one. Not BP's fault Bledsoe stunk it up with all the weapons he had.



And HAve you ever stopped to see how many rookies we played on our team. THe reason no one made the all rookie team is because we played wat maybe 3 or 4 rookies all season. and that was in limited duty. Where as others, are forced to put in rookies, because the vetrans suck (Young at Tenn.) We're not being out drafted. We are drafting just fine IMO. We're getting younger postions at a time. LIke you should in the Salary cap era.
 

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DragonCowboy;1318207 said:
Funny you mentioned that.

What about Romo? And don't tell me it's Sean Payton, because he wasn't the one pulling the trigger.

Who are you? Is that you, TO?

Cowboy4ever;1318213 said:
Because that would not fit the agenda driven post some people like to post. They just don't want to admit to the facts.. That BP was going with a 2 TE set, which requires 2 TE,, the name should give it away, but with injuries to 2 of the 4 TE, we had to go to a more traditional setting. They also dont want to admit that even though BP as missed on a few players, tha he has brought a bright future to this team, with little investment. Romo, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, columbo, and if Pat M and Proctor pan out, that's Gravey.

It's easier to focus on the negative, I guess. Bill has had his share of screw-ups - and if he can't reach the players anymore, it's time for him to go, and I support that. But focusing on other team's draft picks and ignoring all the successes is just boring.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1318213 said:
Because that would not fit the agenda driven post some people like to post. They just don't want to admit to the facts.. That BP was going with a 2 TE set, which requires 2 TE,, the name should give it away, but with injuries to 2 of the 4 TE, we had to go to a more traditional setting. They also dont want to admit that even though BP as missed on a few players, tha he has brought a bright future to this team, with little investment. Romo, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, columbo, and if Pat M and Proctor pan out, that's Gravey.


shhhhhhh, dude stop telling people the right things. They might :chop: off your head
 

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Dawan Landry didn't have to play under Zimmer and next to Roy
 

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Double Trouble;1318215 said:
CREDIBILITY

Sorry, ABQ, I couldn't resist.
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Not a big deal. I figure you screw the pouch on a deal like that and it's only a matter of time before the world falls down on your head.

Basically, you wouldn't be doing your job in the world unless you gave me some guff about it.

;)
 

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Dawan Landry, FS, Geogia Tech, who was taken by the Ravens with the #146th pick in the 5th rd. Dude is 6-0, 220, and played FS like a future Pro-Bowler.

Are you saying this guy was playing FS and Ed Reid was playing SS? I'm not remembering even seeing another safety for the Ravens because Reid was in on everything in the playoffs.
 

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Big deal, I still haven't slept since we missed on Tom Brady......
 

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Cogan;1318170 said:
Guess how many Cowboys rookies made the OurLads.com All-Rookie team. If you guessed more than zero, you're wrong. Several teams who were already better than us, and had lower picks than us had multiple picks. That tells me once again that we are being out-drafted by too many teams. The ONLY way the Cowboys are going to get back to the promised land is to bring in the best personnel people in the NFL. I'll tell ya what, we aint got em now.

Here is the link: http://ourlads.com/2007allrookie.cfm.

Just a few teams & the players they drafted last year:

The one that bothers me the most is Dawan Landry, FS, Geogia Tech, who was taken by the Ravens with the #146th pick in the 5th rd. Dude is 6-0, 220, and played FS like a future Pro-Bowler. We took Skyler Green with the 125th pick, and Pat Watkins with the 138th. Landry was available both picks. Our FS problem could be over with had we had the kind of personnel talent that Baltimore has in Ozzie Newsome. He taught Phil Savage everything he knows, but instead of Jerry Jones hiring him, the Browns grabbed him a couple of years ago. Did it help? Well, two Browns rookies, Kamerion Wimbley & D'Qwell Jackson, were two LBs selected to the team, so you decide.

Another player on the All-Rookie team who could have settled our FS dilema was Ko Simpson, FS, S.C., 6-1, 200, 4.45. Ko has a 41" vertical, and was a first-team All-American selection by the Football Writers Assoc. & CBS Sports in just his sophomore year. He started all 16 games for the Bills, & had 77 TT, 2 ints., and a sack. We could have taken him with either our 2nd or 3rd pick, although I would rather trade Fasano for him than Hatcher. He sure would have looked good with a star on his helmet, and with his speed, I doubt we would have gotten burned nearly as many times as we did with Watkins at the FS helm.

Lastly, taking Fasano, who, by the way, was not on the team, instead of one of the many talented OTs sitting there waiting in the 2nd rd. still burns my butt. Here is the list of all of the OL that were there for the taking that made the All-Rookie team:
  • Nick Mangold, Jets...Was there in the 1st at #18.
  • Marcus McNeil, Chargers....My biggest beef. Was there at our original #49 pick, but we traded it....for the pick we took Green with:eek: . Of course, S.D. once again out-drafts us & gets the right player.
  • Andrew Whitworth, Bengals....Was taken two picks after we took the much needed Fasano.
Not only did every OL do well for the above teams, they started & were integral parts to teams that performed very well this season. Fasano was a part-time TE who could have been Tony Curtis, or Brett Pierce, & we wouldn't have known the freaking difference!

We've got to do MUCH better THIS April. The only reason the Chargers aren't strolling to the SB is that they did enough stupid things to lose two games. They are still the best team in the NFL & sooner or later, will draft so many great players, even their stupidity won't stop them. We can't get that good if we keep passing up great players for players we already have, or for lessor players.
Who cares, most rookies who start enough to make the all rookie team are on a team that sucks bad enough for them to get the playing time. Hindsight is always 20/20.
 
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