The Real MVP (Side by Side Comparison)

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Let's all be real honest with ourselves... Rodgers is EASILY the best QB in football right now. 99% of the Cowboys fan base would take Rodgers any day over Romo. Romo played behind a very dominant oline and running game this year. The threat of Murray running the ball was always there and defenders stacked the box against us leaving very favorable match ups for the receivers. Rodgers on the other hand literally had to be pulled out of games early because he was dominating so much. Romo had a great year but Rodgers is the MVP. I hope they still give it to Romo for screwing us in the Packers game but doubt that will happen.
 

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MVP should not be determined off stats alone.

Romo, as good as he has been all season, and he was damn good. He didn't really have to put the team on his back. Would we win without him? Doubt it, but he didn't have to shoulder the whole load.

If he played this way before we had an O-line, or run game. Then yes.

Nobody on our team is mvp worthy. We all played great as a team, and we were not just great at 1 thing. If you can give the award to a group. Then our O-line for sure.

As much as I hate rodgers. It possibly should be with him.

How is it that Rodgers is deserving, but Romo is not deserving? Rodgers put the team on his back more than Romo? I dont get it...
 

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Let's all be real honest with ourselves... Rodgers is EASILY the best QB in football right now. 99% of the Cowboys fan base would take Rodgers any day over Romo. Romo played behind a very dominant oline and running game this year. The threat of Murray running the ball was always there and defenders stacked the box against us leaving very favorable match ups for the receivers. Rodgers on the other hand literally had to be pulled out of games early because he was dominating so much. Romo had a great year but Rodgers is the MVP. I hope they still give it to Romo for screwing us in the Packers game but doubt that will happen.

Rodgers may be the best qb right now, but I would argue that Romo had a better year that is pretty much backed up by the QB rating and YPA which blows away Rodgers. Yes Rodgers will get it only due to Romo's unfair rep which will only die with a SB ring. Hopefully that time is coming soon.
 

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The most underrated player in maybe league history is getting no absolutely love. He may have just had the best season no one is talking about. Here is a blind comparison. You decide.

Player 1:
15 games
305 for 435
69.9% Comp
3,705 yards
34 TDs
9 Ints
QBR: 113.2
Team Record: 12-4
Playoff Record: 1-1*
Playoff Stats: 34/50 68% 4 TDs 0 Ints
128.8 QBR 9.75 YPA


Player 2:
16 games
341/520
65.6% Comp
4,381 yards
38 TDs
5 Ints
QBR: 112.2
Team Record: 12-4
Playoff Record: 1-1
Playoff Stats:
43/69 62% 4 TDs 2 Ints
90.6 QBR 7.135 YPA

Note that Rodgers had almost 100 more attempts than Romo. And I don't want to hear about a defensive linemen on an 8-8 team that had a bunch of meaningless stats in meaningless games and caught a couple of meaningless fades on the goal line. This shouldn't even be a debate. Tony Romo...

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I still think it's Watt. With all the TDs on offense and defense to go with the sack and knock downs, we may never see a year like that from a DE ever again.
 

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Rodgers may be the best qb right now, but I would argue that Romo had a better year that is pretty much backed up by the QB rating and YPA which blows away Rodgers. Yes Rodgers will get it only due to Romo's unfair rep which will only die with a SB ring. Hopefully that time is coming soon.

I don't think Romo's stats "blow" Rodgers away especially when you consider Rodgers rushing TDs, rushing yards, and the number of 1st downs he ran for.

Romo's QB rating was less than 1% greater than Rodgers.

You could argue Rodger's 7.6 TD to 1 INT ratio vs Romo's 3.8 stands out a bit. It means Rodgers throws twice as many TDs vs every INT he throws vs Romo.

My point is that anybody who thinks Romo or Rodgers were <clearly> better than the other this year isn't really being totally honest about ALL of the stats.

Having said that, I'd vote Romo as MVP this year due to his better overall performance vs common opponents and winning teams.

Either way it's close. What is aggravating is with the AP All-Pro voting, which will likely closely mirror the MVP voting, Rodgers overwhelmingly got the votes over Romo which is just plain wrong in my mind.
 

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I don't think Romo's stats "blow" Rodgers away especially when you consider Rodgers rushing TDs, rushing yards, and the number of 1st downs he ran for.

Romo's QB rating was less than 1% greater than Rodgers.

You could argue Rodger's 7.6 TD to 1 INT ratio vs Romo's 3.8 stands out a bit. It means Rodgers throws twice as many TDs vs every INT he throws vs Romo.

My point is that anybody who thinks Romo or Rodgers were <clearly> better than the other this year isn't really being totally honest about ALL of the stats.

Having said that, I'd vote Romo as MVP this year due to his better overall performance vs common opponents and winning teams.

Either way it's close. What is aggravating is with the AP All-Pro voting, which will likely closely mirror the MVP voting, Rodgers overwhelmingly got the votes over Romo which is just plain wrong in my mind.

I vote it merely on Tony performed at that rate WHILE INJURED multiple different times and ways for the entire season. Rodgers was uninjured for almost all of it.

That makes it astronomical in my opinion. To do that, when a guy with the same injury cant even play golf anymore is INSANE.
 

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I vote it merely on Tony performed at that rate WHILE INJURED multiple different times and ways for the entire season. Rodgers was uninjured for almost all of it.

That makes it astronomical in my opinion. To do that, when a guy with the same injury cant even play golf anymore is INSANE.

Bingo. If Brett Favre would have done what Romo did this year, they would be building statues and having slow motion montages all over ESPN.

Romo does it and the media gives him no respect. He's literally broken 6 bones for this team, punctured a lung and still performed at an all-pro caliber level.

He really shouldn't have even been playing in the San Francisco game where he threw 3 INTs. Makes those 33 TDs and 6 INTs in a 14 game span that much more impressive.
 
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Rodgers may be the best qb right now, but I would argue that Romo had a better year that is pretty much backed up by the QB rating and YPA which blows away Rodgers.
I'm sorry, but what? Their passer ratings are 113.2 and 112.2 and their YPAs are 8.5 and 8.4. He didn't "blow away" Rodgers in those stats in any sense. Those differences are basically in the noise.
 

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I don't think Romo's stats "blow" Rodgers away especially when you consider Rodgers rushing TDs, rushing yards, and the number of 1st downs he ran for.

Romo's QB rating was less than 1% greater than Rodgers.

You could argue Rodger's 7.6 TD to 1 INT ratio vs Romo's 3.8 stands out a bit. It means Rodgers throws twice as many TDs vs every INT he throws vs Romo.

My point is that anybody who thinks Romo or Rodgers were <clearly> better than the other this year isn't really being totally honest about ALL of the stats.

Having said that, I'd vote Romo as MVP this year due to his better overall performance vs common opponents and winning teams.

Either way it's close. What is aggravating is with the AP All-Pro voting, which will likely closely mirror the MVP voting, Rodgers overwhelmingly got the votes over Romo which is just plain wrong in my mind.

I was off on YPA, thus my blows away comment. I agree with your statement though. All Pro Romo gets *****, MVP Romo gets ***** guaranteed. I just do not see why Rodgers is a shoe in and Romo is not even in the conversation. Rodgers threw 2 picks vs the Hawks and no mention of it, Rodgers had 2 late 3 and outs in q4 vs the Hawks and no mention of it...If Romo were to have pulled that same stunt and stunk it up as badly as Rodgers the MSM would have been all over Tonys ***.
 

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vs. Top 10 Pass Defenses
2014 including playoffs


Romo (5 games)
106 of 160 66.3% 1,339 yd 8.4 ypa 9 TD 4 INT 100.5

Rodgers (6 games)
116 of 196 59.2% 1,308 yd 6.7 ypa 7 TD 5 INT 80.5

Clove isn't going to 'like' your post.
 

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The most underrated player in maybe league history is getting no absolutely love. He may have just had the best season no one is talking about. Here is a blind comparison. You decide.

Player 1:
15 games
305 for 435
69.9% Comp
3,705 yards
34 TDs
9 Ints
QBR: 113.2
Team Record: 12-4
Playoff Record: 1-1*
Playoff Stats: 34/50 68% 4 TDs 0 Ints
128.8 QBR 9.75 YPA


Player 2:
16 games
341/520
65.6% Comp
4,381 yards
38 TDs
5 Ints
QBR: 112.2
Team Record: 12-4
Playoff Record: 1-1
Playoff Stats:
43/69 62% 4 TDs 2 Ints
90.6 QBR 7.135 YPA

Note that Rodgers had almost 100 more attempts than Romo. And I don't want to hear about a defensive linemen on an 8-8 team that had a bunch of meaningless stats in meaningless games and caught a couple of meaningless fades on the goal line. This shouldn't even be a debate. Tony Romo...

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IMO the real MVP should be Tom Brady, the things he did was amazing with WRs nobody even knows. Edelman, Lafell? lol really? He has Gronk but thats 1 guy compared to what Dallas and GB have. IMO its not even close Brady with what he had to work with puts both guys to shame. I know I know cheater this cheater that is going to be the response, but what Brady did this yr was awsome. Any football fan in general would appreciate his yr.
 

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IMO the real MVP should be Tom Brady, the things he did was amazing with WRs nobody even knows. Edelman, Lafell? lol really? He has Gronk but thats 1 guy compared to what Dallas and GB have. IMO its not even close Brady with what he had to work with puts both guys to shame. I know I know cheater this cheater that is going to be the response, but what Brady did this yr was awsome. Any football fan in general would appreciate his yr.

Interesting take. Hard to argue.
 

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Interesting take. Hard to argue.

I dont like the patriots or Brady but the guy did some awsome stuff this yr with the little he had to work with. Not to mention the traded their best OL before the season.
 

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I dont like the patriots or Brady but the guy did some awsome stuff this yr with the little he had to work with. Not to mention the traded their best OL before the season.

I don't know why people always want to downplay Brady's supporting cast. Gronk, Edelman and Lafell would all probably start for Dallas. Vereen, Ridley, Blount and Gray is a very solid group of RBs.
 

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I don't know why people always want to downplay Brady's supporting cast. Gronk, Edelman and Lafell would all probably start for Dallas. Vereen, Ridley, Blount and Gray is a very solid group of RBs.

lol edleman and Lafell would be garbage without a QB like Brady. Lafell is on his 5th yr and a 1/3 of his production came in this yr. Blount bombed after leaving NE. Brady the key there. im still laughing at somebody thinking edelman and LAFELL are starting dallas..
 

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IMO the real MVP should be Tom Brady, the things he did was amazing with WRs nobody even knows. Edelman, Lafell? lol really? He has Gronk but thats 1 guy compared to what Dallas and GB have. IMO its not even close Brady with what he had to work with puts both guys to shame. I know I know cheater this cheater that is going to be the response, but what Brady did this yr was awsome. Any football fan in general would appreciate his yr.

someone's "no namer" this year, is a huge contract maker next year. Laurent Robinson anyone?

Just because you didnt no their name doesnt make them horrible. They're playing WR in the nfl...there arent many that get to.
 

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Yep. And I believe Romo's playoffs QBR was pretty mediocre while his playoffs passer rating was the highest.

I don't understand the QBR stat, but it's obviously not that good since it had Romo with a number in the 30's for the Detroit game. I guess because of the sacks? Doesn't make much sense.
 

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lol edleman and Lafell would be garbage without a QB like Brady. Lafell is on his 5th yr and a 1/3 of his production came in this yr. Blount bombed after leaving NE. Brady the key there. im still laughing at somebody thinking edelman and LAFELL are starting dallas..

Brady has struggled a lot when Gronk is out of the lineup...he doesn't make his guys all that great like people want to believe.
 
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