The real reason we drafted Taco?

waldoputty

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Nevermind the question if Taco is a RDE or daddy.

If you look at the number of DL who had no health/misc questions, we have:
Mayowa, Collins, Thornton, Irving, Paea - that is 5
Then you add Taco, that is 6.
Then you have to consider the remaining DL all have questions:
Moore - is he crazy
DLaw - 2 back surgeries later
Crawford - consistent shoulder problems
Tapper - back condition

So the real reason for Taco may be that he can fill in at multiple positions on the DL and do it well.
I mean LDE and 3Tech seems to be reasonable.
May be he is a RDE, may be not, but he is very useful because that would make it 6 players with no health or other misc questions.
TCrawford can be counted on to contribute even if he does not play to his contract.
Then if 1 of the remaining 3 can have a good season, that makes 8.

Of course, it would be great if Tapper is TOTALLY healthy and is a real threat as RDE.
Sure would have liked having Willis/Rivers as another RDE to develop.
DLaw - would not hold my breathe. May be he gets cut.
Moore - what makes the Cowboys special compared to the previous 5 teams - but he is healthy...
If everything works out right with Taco and Tapper, the dline could be darn good.
If not, it will be better than last year, though not a high bar at all.
 

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Teams get in trouble when they draft solely for need, I feel that's what happened here. Hopefully I'm wrong but nothing he does seems exceptional to me. I feel the I did when they drafted Dlaw, just "meh, ok I guess"

If they drafted for need, they would've went CB.

I saw mocks with Taco going in the top 10, I would estimate 50 percent or more of them has him go before our pick. Maybe the team just regarded him more than some fans.
 

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It's true. Here's the latest Fox Sports mock:

9. Cincinnati Bengals
Taco Charlton - DE - Michigan

The Bengals can’t give Michael Johnson 800 snaps in 2017 and expect to contend for the postseason, plain and simple. Charlton is moving up draft boards and is expected to stay high up on them, as his late-season push at Michigan turned heads and his size will have 4-3 teams projecting Pro Bowls.

Needs: Offensive line, linebacker, pass rusher
Rick Osentoski Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports
 

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Like I said before if we are hedging our bets that we will let go of both Lawrence and Crawford due to injury concerns and that we might lose Irving due to an astronomical contract some team gives him then Charlton makes 100% perfect sense. Will it happen?-maybe
 

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Teams get in trouble when they draft solely for need, I feel that's what happened here. Hopefully I'm wrong but nothing he does seems exceptional to me. I feel the I did when they drafted Dlaw, just "meh, ok I guess"

If they went BPA our pick would have been Dalvin Cook....couldn't happen

I'm all for BPA, but you also can't ignore where the value lies in the particular draft class either. The CB draft class was regarded as 1 of the deeper 1's in memory and the Cowboys clearly thought that the value of Taco outweighed the value of the DE's that would be available in the 2nd vs King and what CB's would be available in the 2nd...and they were right. Awuzie >> Smoot, Willis, Hall, Rivers, etc.

The only other guys on our board you could argue would be Ramczky, Njoku, and McDowell. It was very clear that we were going D and Taco is a much better fit than McDowell.
 

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Teams get in trouble when they draft solely for need, I feel that's what happened here. Hopefully I'm wrong but nothing he does seems exceptional to me. I feel the I did when they drafted Dlaw, just "meh, ok I guess"
I agree. But, all clubs draft for need...that just makes sense. BPA is just an opinion and really depends on what side of the ball is more important to you. After the 1st half of the first rd. its a lottery.
 

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If they drafted for need, they would've went CB.

I saw mocks with Taco going in the top 10, I would estimate 50 percent or more of them has him go before our pick. Maybe the team just regarded him more than some fans.

he obviously dropped with the 40 score, even though 40 is not really relevant.
 

waldoputty

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If they drafted for need, they would've went CB.

I saw mocks with Taco going in the top 10, I would estimate 50 percent or more of them has him go before our pick. Maybe the team just regarded him more than some fans.

i think they went after need, but with some anticipation for how the overall draft would proceed.
going after need after 13-3 is totally reasonable,..
 
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Like I said before if we are hedging our bets that we will let go of both Lawrence and Crawford due to injury concerns and that we might lose Irving due to an astronomical contract some team gives him then Charlton makes 100% perfect sense. Will it happen?-maybe

tcrawford's 2017 salary is guaranteed.
though he may be in danger 2018 as taco may be his replacement.
dlaw should be cut if he does not improve over last year.
 

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he obviously dropped with the 40 score, even though 40 is not really relevant.

He dropped. One of the last CBS mocks had him going to the Saints at 11th and someone posted a fox draft with him going at 8th. He wasn't a "reach" in regards to where the media projected him.

Did Dallas reach on his board to get him? I don't know.
 

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Teams get in trouble when they draft solely for need, I feel that's what happened here. Hopefully I'm wrong but nothing he does seems exceptional to me. I feel the I did when they drafted Dlaw, just "meh, ok I guess"

Every team drafts on a present or future need. Provided there is value at the position of need and you aren't reaching for a player I see nothing wrong with that... There was a pretty good CB and LB there when the Cowboys picked, but see no issue with the Charlton pick.
 

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He dropped. One of the last CBS mocks had him going to the Saints at 11th and someone posted a fox draft with him going at 8th. He wasn't a "reach" in regards to where the media projected him.

Did Dallas reach on his board to get him? I don't know.

Look at the cap savings candidates.
It is the DL that has the most underperforming members:

2017
Free - retired. small part of me thinks they are glad.
TCrawford - cannot cut as 2017 salary is guaranteed.
DLaw - toast from back surgeries?
Thornton - probably has another year to prove himself
Hanna - dreaded microsurgery needed?
Oscan - probably safe for 2017
Blanton - keep a draft pick or keep him?

2018
TCrawford - save $10M in 2019 with cut
Dlaw - probably will not be resigned
Thornton - last chance?
Oscan - in danger if 2017 picks play well
Carroll - in danger if 2017 picks play well

2019
TCrawford - save $10M in 2019 with cut
Thornton - probably done
Oscan - probably done
Carroll - in danger if 2017 picks play well
 

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If they went BPA our pick would have been Dalvin Cook....couldn't happen

I'm all for BPA, but you also can't ignore where the value lies in the particular draft class either. The CB draft class was regarded as 1 of the deeper 1's in memory and the Cowboys clearly thought that the value of Taco outweighed the value of the DE's that would be available in the 2nd vs King and what CB's would be available in the 2nd...and they were right. Awuzie >> Smoot, Willis, Hall, Rivers, etc.

The only other guys on our board you could argue would be Ramczky, Njoku, and McDowell. It was very clear that we were going D and Taco is a much better fit than McDowell.
Reuben Foster was BPA at 28.
He should've been the pick.
 

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Reuben Foster was BPA at 28.
He should've been the pick.

I can all but guarantee you he wasn't on the board. He has about 3 red flags too many. I'm usually pretty liberal about drafting guys with questionable character, but Foster is a ticking time bomb for both a major injury and a suspension. Glad we stayed away from him. Plus I think he was overrated from the beginning anyway.
 
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