The Reason Zeke Must Fight This Ruling

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Six games cost him between 5-600K. Not chump change.

However the real mother lode is commercial endorsements now and post football, including perhaps being on ESPN, and even Hollywood isn't out of the realm of possibility. This could cost him as much as 75 - 100 million if he positions himself correctly.

Now everyone is saying that Goodell has the final word and it doesn't matter. But here is the rub.

Zeke and his hired guns can make public every piece of evidence and sway public opinion to a point he might - might - create a climate where there is a push back by NFL fans, and the general public.

This is about proving his innocence. not to Goodell, but to the general public. And the owners to show Goodell the door.

This is about Goodell flexing his muscles and showing the public he is tough on domestic violence. regardless if he is innocent or not.

Just my opinion.
 

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He should fight it for two reasons for me.

1) If he's innocent you always fight. You don't let someone label you with that BS when you're innocent.

2) Someone, at some point, has to stand up to the NFL making rulings on suspensions when the person is innocent.

To me it's simply outrageous, and stupid, that the NFL can still suspend someone even when the evidence appears to show, overwhelmingly, that the person is innocent. Yet they're still suspending him because of the 'image' of the league.

That's BS, IMO. It gives way to broad a stroke to suspend people for BS.

I've seen it said a bunch of times in the last week that this was the league making sure they didn't have another Ray Rice situation.

Well to me these are very different. The Ray Rice situation had overwhelming evidence showing that Rice absolutely hit that woman. They should have suspended him immediately and with a harsh punishment. No problem.

This case, from what all we've seen so far, seems to point that the woman has made up up the whole thing and that Zeke actually hasn't done a thing. He shouldn't be punished for what he didn't do just because of how someone else chooses to behave.


Now all that said this is what the players are going to have to wake up and realize. Who you hang out with, the situations you put yourself in, and the people you're around can absolutely hurt your career, and your earning potential, even when you yourself didn't do a dang thing wrong.

These guys have to be smart enough to know that and protect themselves. The league isn't going to do that for them. And while I want them to fight the league on this I doubt, very seriously, that the league changes it's stance on these things and how they hand down their suspensions.
 

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those are very good reasons

I would fight until the SCOTUS.....it is that important and damaging

Brady convinced 2 out of 4 Federal Judges to side with him and I think Zeke has a much stronger case
I think Brady did it but the NFL still messed up the punishment

Only way Zeke takes a deal is if they stipulate no guilt and he doesn't get banned for any new charge..... just like the deal Leveon Bell got for weed
 

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Clearly off the field incidents have hurt the ESPN opportunities for Ray Lewis and Randy Moss.
 

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I really think that the damage is already done. Regardless of whether or not Zeke proves his innocence and reverses the ruling I think the court of public opinion in the eyes of people who just brush over the news is already formed. These are the people endorsements and advertisers target. So even with him being cleared of all wrong doing I do not think many companies are going to take a chance on him for advertising.
 

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Now all that said this is what the players are going to have to wake up and realize. Who you hang out with, the situations you put yourself in, and the people you're around can absolutely hurt your career, and your earning potential, even when you yourself didn't do a dang thing wrong.
There really isn't anything you can do about it........once he found out she was crazy he tried to leave her and this is the result....... you never know someone until you argue or fight...... there is no screening process for jealousy or revenge

The NFL shouldn't be allowed to act without a conviction, period
 

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Maybe fight isn't the best word to use, considering the circumstances. But he definitely should "deal with" it.
 

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Zeke might just get advice from his own PR people that the better course for him personally is to bite the bullet and hope that public contrition restores his image while he is still young and has a chance to recover some earning potential down the road--even if he is innocent. Innocent people plead guilty all the time in our system, because they are advised its the better course. We'll see. He'll need some slam dunk evidence of innocence to sway public opinion and there probably isn't any or we would have seen it by now. He said, she said is not a good place to be in our society right now.
 

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Six games cost him between 5-600K. Not chump change.

However the real mother lode is commercial endorsements now and post football, including perhaps being on ESPN, and even Hollywood isn't out of the realm of possibility. This could cost him as much as 75 - 100 million if he positions himself correctly.

Now everyone is saying that Goodell has the final word and it doesn't matter. But here is the rub.

Zeke and his hired guns can make public every piece of evidence and sway public opinion to a point he might - might - create a climate where there is a push back by NFL fans, and the general public.

This is about proving his innocence. not to Goodell, but to the general public. And the owners to show Goodell the door.

This is about Goodell flexing his muscles and showing the public he is tough on domestic violence. regardless if he is innocent or not.

Just my opinion.

What are your chances of winning an appeal by the same clowns that want you destroyed? None! As you said Zekes ONLY hope is to release publically every piece of evidence supporting his innocence and that this woman was out to get him. He may not win much of appeal wise but it will help him in the court of public opinion. I must believe that this woman is licking her chops thinking that this ruling set her up to win a BIG civil lawsuit. Zeke needs to stop the bleeding right away.
 

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What are your chances of winning an appeal by the same clowns that want you destroyed? None! As you said Zekes ONLY hope is to release publically every piece of evidence supporting his innocence and that this woman was out to get him. He may not win much of appeal wise but it will help him in the court of public opinion. I must believe that this woman is licking her chops thinking that this ruling set her up to win a BIG civil lawsuit. Zeke needs to stop the bleeding right away.


There is also the civil suit that will be filed once the league confirms his "guilt." You win the public case with evidence and her claims could fold.
 

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What are your chances of winning an appeal by the same clowns that want you destroyed? None! As you said Zekes ONLY hope is to release publically every piece of evidence supporting his innocence and that this woman was out to get him. He may not win much of appeal wise but it will help him in the court of public opinion. I must believe that this woman is licking her chops thinking that this ruling set her up to win a BIG civil lawsuit. Zeke needs to stop the bleeding right away.


I wish some of you people would stop and think!....Tell me what's the advantage of the NFL suspending their high marquee players, where's the benefit to the league? Brady, the best quarterback in NFL history doesn't play the national televised game to start the season,,,,,,now Zeke is suspended for the first Sunday night game, where's the benefit to the league for that????

And since the suspension was announced friday, where's is Zeke proclaiming his total innocence, certainly not in his press release from his lawyer, have not seen him in front of a camera, holding a press conference, why is that, where's Jerry, have you heard or seen him, where is he hiding....actions speak volumes, yet there's silence....If I was accused of something that I didn't do, I wouldn't be hiding, I'd be standing in front of a podium proclaiming my innocence and answering any questions the media has, I don't know if the allegation are true or not, but Zeke's camp actions after the suspension is very telling to me!
 
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Six games cost him between 5-600K. Not chump change.

However the real mother lode is commercial endorsements now and post football, including perhaps being on ESPN, and even Hollywood isn't out of the realm of possibility. This could cost him as much as 75 - 100 million if he positions himself correctly.

Now everyone is saying that Goodell has the final word and it doesn't matter. But here is the rub.

Zeke and his hired guns can make public every piece of evidence and sway public opinion to a point he might - might - create a climate where there is a push back by NFL fans, and the general public.

This is about proving his innocence. not to Goodell, but to the general public. And the owners to show Goodell the door.

This is about Goodell flexing his muscles and showing the public he is tough on domestic violence. regardless if he is innocent or not.

Just my opinion.

I think that is right. But, Goodell may offer him a reduced suspension if he doesn't take the NFL to court. At which point, he has to decide whether to continue to fight the PR battle or help the team by getting back sooner.
 
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I wish some of you people would stop and think!....Tell me what's the advantage of the NFL suspending their high marquee players, where's the benefit to the league? Brady, the best quarterback in NFL history doesn't play the national televised game to start the season,,,,,,now Zeke is suspended for the first Sunday night game, where's the benefit to the league for that????

And since the suspension was announced friday, where's is Zeke proclaiming his total innocence, certainly not in his press release from his lawyer, have not seen him in front of a camera, holding a press conference, why is that, where's Jerry, have you heard or seen him, where is he hiding....actions speak volumes, yet there's silence....If I was accused of something that I didn't do, I wouldn't be hiding, I'd be standing in front of a podium proclaiming my innocence and answering any questions the media has, I don't know if the allegation are true or not, but Zeke's camp actions after the suspension is very telling to me!

It's only a benefit if the suspensions are deterring other players from engaging in misconduct. I don't think they are. So I agree, Goodell is cutting off the NFL's nose to spite its face.
 

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Thing is, Zeke has to foot that legal bill. I don't think the NFLPA does anything for him in that regard. And since it is being waged against a non governmental justice system, that money might not be reimbursable even if he "wins". It is going to cost Zeke a lot of $$$ to fight this.
 

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It's only a benefit if the suspensions are deterring other players from engaging in misconduct. I don't think they are. So I agree, Goodell is cutting off the NFL's nose to spite its face.

Goodell is trying to help some of these troubled players to stay on the straight and narrow so they can reap all the benefits the NFL brings, Goodell would like nothing more than be able to sweep these things under the rug, but in today's NFL, that's not possible to do anymore, Goodell is NOT the problem, a small percentage of players actions off the field are...
 

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Six games cost him between 5-600K. Not chump change.

However the real mother lode is commercial endorsements now and post football, including perhaps being on ESPN, and even Hollywood isn't out of the realm of possibility. This could cost him as much as 75 - 100 million if he positions himself correctly.

Now everyone is saying that Goodell has the final word and it doesn't matter. But here is the rub.

Zeke and his hired guns can make public every piece of evidence and sway public opinion to a point he might - might - create a climate where there is a push back by NFL fans, and the general public.

This is about proving his innocence. not to Goodell, but to the general public. And the owners to show Goodell the door.

This is about Goodell flexing his muscles and showing the public he is tough on domestic violence. regardless if he is innocent or not.

Just my opinion.

I also heard that this suspension, if it stands, would void some guarantees in his rookie contract, to the tune of nearly $3 million.
 
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