The regression of Romo

[KJJ]

There's two main reasons Romo has regressed. He doesn't have a tough coach like Parcells getting in his face everytime he makes a boneheaded mistake and he allowed his early success to go to his head. He got his $60 million in the middle of the 07 season before he solidified himself as a top notch QB and proceeded to slack soon there after by heading to Cabo with his Hollywood bimbo before the biggest game of his career. In 06 Romo played some of his best football. He looked like he was going to be a terrific QB who would lead the Cowboys to many SB's. One of the biggest games he won was in 06 against the 9-0 Colts who went on to win the SB that season. Romo made two clutch throws on 3rd down to Fasano and Terry Glenn that helped seal that victory. We haven't seen him make clutch plays like that in almost 2 years. He threw almost 100 straight passes that season without an INT. Parcells kept on him about not making mistakes.

He kept Romo's head on straight and his potential looked unlimited under Parcells and Sean Payton who was the one who talked Parcells into signing Romo. Then wimpy came along with his long track record for failure. He couldn't even win a playoff game with John Elway as his QB in Denver. Him and Garrett unleashed Romo and the offense in 07 and it worked like a charm for 12 weeks. All the attention Romo was getting began going to his head. Right about that time we started hearing about him and Jessica Simpson. The better Romo played and the more attention he got the more his confidence grew. He started sounding a little cocky in interviews and it was clear he was feeling real good about himself. He began to forget some of the lessons Parcells taught him. He's started slinging the ball around becoming more and more careless and subsequently his turnovers primarily fumbles started increasing. Naturally wimpy never got on to him about it at least not publicly. He just shrugged them off in his PC's and said Tony is fine. Wimpy has always been known for having his players backs no matter how poorly they play. His standards for excellence has never been very high that's why he's bounced around the league and is 0-4 in the playoffs. Probably the biggest game Romo's won to date was against Green Bay in 07. That was a huge game that was heavily hyped with both teams being 10-1. Romo passed for over 300 yards and 4 TD's. He was looking better than Staubach or Aikman ever looked.

Romo and the team were beaming with confidence after the big GB win which proved to be their undoing that season. The next week the Cowboys struggled against a bad Detroit team. That was the last good comeback Romo had. He looked like Joe Montana throwing to John Taylor when he hit Witten for the winning score in the final seconds. Romo really had the look of a QB who was going to be very special. The next week against Philly was the first red flag something was going wrong with Romo and the Cowboys. This was clearly not the same team we had been watching that season. Romo entered that game over confident as did the team and it ended with one probably the worst performance of his career. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn that day. That game really affected him because his bimbo was there shaking her boobs in her pink #9 jersey and the media jumped all over it. Then came one of Romo's worst decisions to head to Cabo with her right before our playoff game. This is what started everyone questioning his dedication to football. His game was going in the tank and he takes off to Cabo before the playoffs and his head coach is okay with it? We were still on our mission to win a championship for crying out loud! He had the entire offseason to go to Cabo. Once the news got out he headed to Cabo before the playoffs it added even more pressure on him to perform well. He knew if he didn't he would draw even more criticism which he did. That game coupled with the fumbled hold at Seattle in the playoffs the year prior got the word "choke" being bantered around.

That started to affect Romo but it didn't stop him from making stupid comments such as not caring what peoples perception of him is. He kept drawing attention to himself during the offseason by trying to qualify for PGA tour events. Had he qualified for the US Open this year it would have interfered with one of his mini camps. He continued saying and doing things that made people question his dedication to football. In 08 he never looked like he did in 07 and his turnovers began to increase over the previous two seasons. His December meltdown in 08 was far worse than the ones he had in 06 and 07. His post game comments after the Philly debacle angered many Cowboys fans. His game had fallen so much the team had to dump it's biggest playmaker to cater to him and design an offense to try and reduce his turnovers. Right now Romo is a shell of the QB he was 2 years ago. He's lost his confidence and his pocket awareness. His decision making is as poor as it's ever been. He's no more a leader now than he was last year. This new Romo friendly offense doesn't fit him and his sandlot style. So far it looks very unfriendly and it's killing his game. He looks like Quincy Carter out there. Had he had the proper coaching from a tough disciplinarian like he was receiving from Parcells and his staff Romo may have developed into a great QB by now.

To start off the way he did with such promise 4 years ago and to sink to the level he is now is a real shame. This is a sad example of what happens when a player and a team doesn't receive the proper coaching. Romo is going to remain an up and down QB who's eventually going to end up on the bench. With the team in clear decline, a pathetic coaching staff and stiffs at WR I can't see him getting back to the level he was 2 years ago. Plus he doesn't have a defense that can bail him out when he makes mistakes. If things go so bad this season that we see Kitna out there I expect the Cowboys to be looking for another QB sooner rather than later.

 

[Beast_from_East]

You make a very good point about coaching. I think alot of Romo's problems could be fixed if he had proper coaching right now.

However, with StayPuff and Tecmo at the helm..........it is down right criminal how bad this team is being coached right now.


What I disagree with you on is about Romo heading to the bench. It really doesnt matter how bad he plays, Wade and Garrett simply dont have the authority or the balls to try and bench Romo.

The only person in this entire organziation that could bench Romo is Jerry, thats just a fact. Now considering that he just gave Romo a huge contract and that Romo is the face of the franchise, dont hold your breathe waiting for Kitna.

The truth is the entire coaching staff and most of the players will be replaced before Jerry ever starts looking at Romo as the problem. Thats just the way it is.

 

[KJJ]

You make a very good point about coaching. I think alot of Romo's problems could be fixed if he had proper coaching right now.

However, with StayPuff and Tecmo at the helm..........it is down right criminal how bad this team is being coached right now.


What I disagree with you on is about Romo heading to the bench. It really doesnt matter how bad he plays, Wade and Garrett simply dont have the authority or the balls to try and bench Romo.

The only person in this entire organziation that could bench Romo is Jerry, thats just a fact. Now considering that he just gave Romo a huge contract and that Romo is the face of the franchise, dont hold your breathe waiting for Kitna.

The truth is the entire coaching staff and most of the players will be replaced before Jerry ever starts looking at Romo as the problem. Thats just the way it is.

I'm not saying Romo will get benched I'm just saying IF things were to go so bad this season that he did his career could to be in some trouble. We all know Jerry is going to support Romo no matter what but if the Cowboys miss the playoffs again Jerry's going to have a dilemma on his hands. When staypuft gets the heave after this season we have to see what the next HC can do with Romo and if they have confidence in him. Right now Jerry maybe the only one who believes in Romo because of the investment he made in him.

 

[Gadfly22]

I have a confession: if you state that Romo or any other professional sports player has "regressed", I will automatically think you are an idiot.

Professional sports players spend years learning techniques and honing skills that involve milliseconds of time and millimeters of space. Sometimes, they will -- consciously or unconsciously -- have something change in their own technique or (in team sports) the techniques of others that cause periods of adjustment.

In baseball, when a good hitter stops getting hits or a good pitcher starts missing the strike zone, we say they're in a "slump". All that means is that they are doing something different that has affected their play. If the "slump" starts affecting their mental approach to the game, they will likely have more difficulty coming out of it. But no one says that they've "regressed" or somehow lost those hard-won skills.

Romo might be in something of a slump or could just have had a single bad day in Denver. Those things happen in sports. But if you say that he's "regressed", I'm sorry to say that the only thing that has rolled backward is your IQ score.

 

[KJJ]

I have a confession: if you state that Romo or any other professional sports player has "regressed", I will automatically think you are an idiot.

Professional sports players spend years learning techniques and honing skills that involve milliseconds of time and millimeters of space. Sometimes, they will -- consciously or unconsciously -- have something change in their own technique or (in team sports) the techniques of others that cause periods of adjustment.

In baseball, when a good hitter stops getting hits or a good pitcher starts missing the strike zone, we say they're in a "slump". All that means is that they are doing something different that has affected their play. If the "slump" starts affecting their mental approach to the game, they will likely have more difficulty coming out of it. But no one says that they've "regressed" or somehow lost those hard-won skills.

Romo might be in something of a slump or could just have had a single bad day in Denver. Those things happen in sports. But if you say that he's "regressed", I'm sorry to say that the only thing that has rolled backward is your IQ score.

If you're saying Romo might be in a slump or he could have had a single bad day in Denver then you obviously haven't been following this season or his career for that matter. You might try confessing that. lol I've been following his career and he's regressing...FACT!

 

[Future]

Since all people did everywhere this offseason was piss and moan about Tony's turnovers...you could say he's made a ton of progress.

 

[RoadRunner]

I have a confession: if you state that Romo or any other professional sports player has "regressed", I will automatically think you are an idiot.

Professional sports players spend years learning techniques and honing skills that involve milliseconds of time and millimeters of space. Sometimes, they will -- consciously or unconsciously -- have something change in their own technique or (in team sports) the techniques of others that cause periods of adjustment.

In baseball, when a good hitter stops getting hits or a good pitcher starts missing the strike zone, we say they're in a "slump". All that means is that they are doing something different that has affected their play. If the "slump" starts affecting their mental approach to the game, they will likely have more difficulty coming out of it. But no one says that they've "regressed" or somehow lost those hard-won skills.

Romo might be in something of a slump or could just have had a single bad day in Denver. Those things happen in sports. But if you say that he's "regressed", I'm sorry to say that the only thing that has rolled backward is your IQ score.

So, anyone who disagrees with your non-professional opinion is "an idiot"... another one for my ignore list.

 

[RoadRunner]

Since all people did everywhere this offseason was piss and moan about Tony's turnovers...you could say he's made a ton of progress.

How so? He is still turning the ball over.

 

[Gadfly22]

If you're saying Romo might be in a slump or he could have had a single bad day in Denver then you obviously haven't been following this season or his career for that matter. You might try confessing that. lol I've been following his career and he's regressing...FACT!

Ah. A person who actively wants to be considered an idiot. Wish granted.

 

[Gadfly22]

So, anyone who disagrees with your non-professional opinion is "an idiot"... another one for my ignore list.

Any fan who watches professional athletes and believes in the fairy tale of "regression" is, unfortunately and in my opinion, an idiot who likes parroting the pablum the media likes to peddle.

Skills may erode over time as an athlete ages, but a successful professional like Romo -- who may still be learning nuances but who has attained considerable mastery of his craft -- doesn't "regress". His technique or timing may be off for a game or a string of games (i.e., a "slump"), but the skills are still there.

Also, in a number of instances, we fans can't even know if a failed play is even Romo's fault. The INT to Bailey on Sunday can be thrown around as evidence of "regression", but if Austin was supposed to turn out on a timing route and turned in instead, the fault is his and not Romo's.

In the words of H.L. Menken:

"There is always a well-known solution to every human problem--neat, plausible, and wrong."

Attributing the Cowboys' problems on offense or Romo's particular problems to "regression" is just such a "solution".

 

[Future]

How so? He is still turning the ball over.

Other than the Giants game not really. The pick against Denver wasn't his fault. He didn't have one against either Tampa or Carolina that I can think of. And he's only had the one fumble which is a number significantly down.

 

[zrinkill]

He cannot of regressed because he has always sucked ...... he was not even drafted number one ..... he cannot be any good.

 

[JBond]

I have a confession: if you state that Romo or any other professional sports player has "regressed", I will automatically think you are an idiot.

Professional sports players spend years learning techniques and honing skills that involve milliseconds of time and millimeters of space. Sometimes, they will -- consciously or unconsciously -- have something change in their own technique or (in team sports) the techniques of others that cause periods of adjustment.

In baseball, when a good hitter stops getting hits or a good pitcher starts missing the strike zone, we say they're in a "slump". All that means is that they are doing something different that has affected their play. If the "slump" starts affecting their mental approach to the game, they will likely have more difficulty coming out of it. But no one says that they've "regressed" or somehow lost those hard-won skills.

Romo might be in something of a slump or could just have had a single bad day in Denver. Those things happen in sports. But if you say that he's "regressed", I'm sorry to say that the only thing that has rolled backward is your IQ score.

I agree with the majority of your thought process on regression. Tony will be fine. I do believe coaching is an issue though.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

How so? He is still turning the ball over.

He's only turned it over in 2 of the 4 games and that is progression for him. It usually seems like he turns it over at least one time in every game, over the last couple of years, so that is progress.

To have only 1 fumble this year, through 4 games, for Romo is huge improvement. And that one fumble came on a blind side hit that he never even saw coming. Now he should have read that blitz before the play, without a doubt, and he can't be let off the hook in that regard, but it's not like he fumbled the ball when he saw a hit coming.

One of things I am happy about with Romo is that he is protecting the ball better. Now he's got several other things I want to see him improve upon but I do believe he can and will do those things.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

:laugh2:

Gadfly hitting it out of the park in this thread.

 

[Vtwin]

Any fan who watches professional athletes and believes in the fairy tale of "regression" is, unfortunately and in my opinion, an idiot who likes parroting the pablum the media likes to peddle.

Skills may erode over time as an athlete ages, but a successful professional like Romo -- who may still be learning nuances but who has attained considerable mastery of his craft -- doesn't "regress". His technique or timing may be off for a game or a string of games (i.e., a "slump"), but the skills are still there.

Also, in a number of instances, we fans can't even know if a failed play is even Romo's fault. The INT to Bailey on Sunday can be thrown around as evidence of "regression", but if Austin was supposed to turn out on a timing route and turned in instead, the fault is his and not Romo's.

In the words of H.L. Menken:

"There is always a well-known solution to every human problem--neat, plausible, and wrong."

Attributing the Cowboys' problems on offense or Romo's particular problems to "regression" is just such a "solution".

Bla bla bla bla...... semantics.

You are leaving out one very important area, attitude/mindset.

One can very easily regress in that area, especially if one is fragile in that area to begin with. If that happens then the little things taken for granted can suffer also.

Not to say one can't progress from the regression.

Regression/slump = tomAto/tomato.

 

[chinch]

dead on recap. although i'd change "regressed" for "is severely struggling & playing worse over time instead of improving"

another christmas bonus from jerry handed out in july.

the poor coaching & lack of preparation (all positions not just tony) is evident to all but those in complete denial.

sad huh.

There's two main reasons Romo has regressed. He doesn't have a tough coach like Parcells getting in his face everytime he makes a boneheaded mistake and he allowed his early success to go to his head. He got his $60 million in the middle of the 07 season before he solidified himself as a top notch QB and proceeded to slack soon there after by heading to Cabo with his Hollywood bimbo before the biggest game of his career. In 06 Romo played some of his best football. He looked like he was going to be a terrific QB who would lead the Cowboys to many SB's. One of the biggest games he won was in 06 against the 9-0 Colts who went on to win the SB that season. Romo made two clutch throws on 3rd down to Fasano and Terry Glenn that helped seal that victory. We haven't seen him make clutch plays like that in almost 2 years. He threw almost 100 straight passes that season without an INT. Parcells kept on him about not making mistakes.

He kept Romo's head on straight and his potential looked unlimited under Parcells and Sean Payton who was the one who talked Parcells into signing Romo. Then wimpy came along with his long track record for failure. He couldn't even win a playoff game with John Elway as his QB in Denver. Him and Garrett unleashed Romo and the offense in 07 and it worked like a charm for 12 weeks. All the attention Romo was getting began going to his head. Right about that time we started hearing about him and Jessica Simpson. The better Romo played and the more attention he got the more his confidence grew. He started sounding a little cocky in interviews and it was clear he was feeling real good about himself. He began to forget some of the lessons Parcells taught him. He's started slinging the ball around becoming more and more careless and subsequently his turnovers primarily fumbles started increasing. Naturally wimpy never got on to him about it at least not publicly. He just shrugged them off in his PC's and said Tony is fine. Wimpy has always been known for having his players backs no matter how poorly they play. His standards for excellence has never been very high that's why he's bounced around the league and is 0-4 in the playoffs. Probably the biggest game Romo's won to date was against Green Bay in 07. That was a huge game that was heavily hyped with both teams being 10-1. Romo passed for over 300 yards and 4 TD's. He was looking better than Staubach or Aikman ever looked.

Romo and the team were beaming with confidence after the big GB win which proved to be their undoing that season. The next week the Cowboys struggled against a bad Detroit team. That was the last good comeback Romo had. He looked like Joe Montana throwing to John Taylor when he hit Witten for the winning score in the final seconds. Romo really had the look of a QB who was going to be very special. The next week against Philly was the first red flag something was going wrong with Romo and the Cowboys. This was clearly not the same team we had been watching that season. Romo entered that game over confident as did the team and it ended with one probably the worst performance of his career. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn that day. That game really affected him because his bimbo was there shaking her boobs in her pink #9 jersey and the media jumped all over it. Then came one of Romo's worst decisions to head to Cabo with her right before our playoff game. This is what started everyone questioning his dedication to football. His game was going in the tank and he takes off to Cabo before the playoffs and his head coach is okay with it? We were still on our mission to win a championship for crying out loud! He had the entire offseason to go to Cabo. Once the news got out he headed to Cabo before the playoffs it added even more pressure on him to perform well. He knew if he didn't he would draw even more criticism which he did. That game coupled with the fumbled hold at Seattle in the playoffs the year prior got the word "choke" being bantered around.

That started to affect Romo but it didn't stop him from making stupid comments such as not caring what peoples perception of him is. He kept drawing attention to himself during the offseason by trying to qualify for PGA tour events. Had he qualified for the US Open this year it would have interfered with one of his mini camps. He continued saying and doing things that made people question his dedication to football. In 08 he never looked like he did in 07 and his turnovers began to increase over the previous two seasons. His December meltdown in 08 was far worse than the ones he had in 06 and 07. His post game comments after the Philly debacle angered many Cowboys fans. His game had fallen so much the team had to dump it's biggest playmaker to cater to him and design an offense to try and reduce his turnovers. Right now Romo is a shell of the QB he was 2 years ago. He's lost his confidence and his pocket awareness. His decision making is as poor as it's ever been. He's no more a leader now than he was last year. This new Romo friendly offense doesn't fit him and his sandlot style. So far it looks very unfriendly and it's killing his game. He looks like Quincy Carter out there. Had he had the proper coaching from a tough disciplinarian like he was receiving from Parcells and his staff Romo may have developed into a great QB by now.

To start off the way he did with such promise 4 years ago and to sink to the level he is now is a real shame. This is a sad example of what happens when a player and a team doesn't receive the proper coaching. Romo is going to remain an up and down QB who's eventually going to end up on the bench. With the team in clear decline, a pathetic coaching staff and stiffs at WR I can't see him getting back to the level he was 2 years ago. Plus he doesn't have a defense that can bail him out when he makes mistakes. If things go so bad this season that we see Kitna out there I expect the Cowboys to be looking for another QB sooner rather than later.

 

[DTIME]

There are several definitions for the term regression on the web. Here is one of them "an abnormal state in which development has stopped prematurely."

I think the term regression could easily apply to Tony without someone calling you an idiot. Tony seems to be lacking the confidence and development(coaching) at this point in his career to show that he is in fact progressing. Anyhow, I agree with the original poster's point that Romo is sort of regressing for whatever reason.

 

[KJJ]

Ah. A person who actively wants to be considered an idiot. Wish granted.

You're just one of those fans who actively considers anyone who's views you don't agree with as being an idiot. You're one of the many on this board who's in denial. You simply can't come to grips that Romo has regressed. His progress stopped nearing the end of the 07 season. Before then he showed excellent pocket awareness and he use to go through his progressions and use his athletic ability to extend plays and find an open receiver. He was a great playmaker at that time. Then he began to lock on receivers like we saw in the closing minutes against Pittsburgh last season when he started forcing throws to Witten.

He made a pre snap decision to go to Witten and threw the ball before he even turned around. In the past he would check off a receiver, roll out and find the open one. He locked on Hurd last Sunday which was another pre snap decision. Had he rolled out and allowed a receiver to break open he might have seen Austin break free but he was locked on Hurd before the ball was ever snapped. Romo is becoming very inconsistent and his accuracy has gone down. His TD/INT ratio that was 2-1 is now 1-1 which equates to around 20 fewer TD's this season than his best season in 07. He's become skittish in the pocket. Against the Bucs on opening day he only had 34 yards passing after the first quarter and a half until those big plays. After his first 4 starts in 06 Romo had 1088 yards and 5 TD's. His completion percentage was close to 70% and his passing rating was near 100. After his first 4 games in 07 Romo had 1199 yards and 11 TD's. His completion percentage was well over 60% and his passer rating was over 100.

After his first 4 games in 08 Romo had 1192 yards and 8 TD's. Again his completion percentage was well over 60% and his passer rating was over 100. After 4 games in 09 he has 990 yards and 4 TD's. His completion percentage is 58% and his passer rating is 79.4. His seasons have tailed off each year he's been the starter and they've gotten progressively worse. He now melts down in every big hyped up game he's in. You can always tell how big a game is by how many turnovers Romo has. In 06 and 07 he had some great games in big games against the Colts and Packers. In the 06 playoffs he actually outplayed Matt Hasselbeck but it was his fumbled hold that cost the Cowboys the game. His big game performances have gotten worse each season. He's REGRESSED and the numbers show it!

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'm not saying Romo will get benched I'm just saying IF things were to go so bad this season that he did his career could to be in some trouble. We all know Jerry is going to support Romo no matter what but if the Cowboys miss the playoffs again Jerry's going to have a dilemma on his hands. When staypuft gets the heave after this season we have to see what the next HC can do with Romo and if they have confidence in him. Right now Jerry maybe the only one who believes in Romo because of the investment he made in him.

Its going to be all good once we hire Gruden after the season, he loves him some Romo!!!