The Romo question is so simple

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I don't understand all the angst and debate over this QB situation. It's simple, neat, straight forward, and not at all a distraction for this team.

When Romo is fully healthy, you play him. Then one of three things happens:

1. Romo plays great, the offense expands to its full capability, and the season continues with him and the future QB of the Cowboys in rapid development.

2. Romo gets hurt, and Dak's chapter officially begins.

3. Romo plays poorly, and Dak replaces him in a couple of games.

Done.

Why is this so hard?
 

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I don't understand all the angst and debate over this QB situation. It's simple, neat, straight forward, and not at all a distraction for this team.

When Romo is fully healthy, you play him. Then one of three things happens:

1. Romo plays great, the offense expands to its full capability, and the season continues with him and the future QB of the Cowboys in rapid development.

2. Romo gets hurt, and Dak's chapter officially begins.

3. Romo plays poorly, and Dak replaces him in a couple of games.

Done.

Why is this so hard?
Exactly this.
 

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I don't understand all the angst and debate over this QB situation. It's simple, neat, straight forward, and not at all a distraction for this team.

When Romo is fully healthy, you play him. Then one of three things happens:

1. Romo plays great, the offense expands to its full capability, and the season continues with him and the future QB of the Cowboys in rapid development.

2. Romo gets hurt, and Dak's chapter officially begins.

3. Romo plays poorly, and Dak replaces him in a couple of games.

Done.

Why is this so hard?
It's hard because Romo haters live in mortal fear because they know there is a good chance number one will happen.

I suppose to play devil's advocate, one could say that should Romo have deteriorated so far as to be unable to hand off and dink and dunk as good as Dak, then it's possible we could lose a couple of games that could cost playoff positioning/getting in the playoffs altogether.
 

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I suppose to play devil's advocate, one could say that should Romo have deteriorated so far as to be unable to hand off and dink and dunk as good as Dak, then it's possible we could lose a couple of games that could cost playoff positioning/getting in the playoffs altogether.

I considered this....but even Tony himself wouldnt even offer to play if he knew this is where he was it.

He knows himself pretty well and a true competitor like him wont put himself over the team.
 

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Why is this so hard?
It's not hard at all. Some people don't like the man. Anyone would if they incorrectly blamed him for team shortcomings that he wasn't responsible for committing or do not keep his actual mistakes within a proper football perspective.
 

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Look at the history of this team.

Morton versus Staubach.
White versus Hogeboom
Aikman versus Walsh/Beuerlein
Quincy versus Hutch
Bledsoe versus Romo
Romo versus Dak

As far as the team goes, eventually putting Romo back in as a starter is evident to anyone who has eyes. Even if Dak sweeps Green Bay and Philly, the Brown's game belongs to Romo. And as it should, because that will be the easiest game to work Romo back into live fire.

From the teams point of view, what happens to cause the team to pull Romo?

@Green Bay - Dak
Eagles - Dak

@Stealers
Ravens
Commander
@Vikings
@Giants
Buccaneers
Lions
@Eagles

To win the East this year may require 10-11 wins. A split with GB/Philly leaves five wins out of eight games. Winning against the Ravens, Commanders, Bucs and Lions means you have to find a win against the Viks, Giants and Eagles, all road games. And this is if 10 wins is enough.

At what point in that final eight games does the team pull Tony if he cannot get the job done to salvage a shot at the East? Because there isn't a person on this board, no matter how much of a Romo fan they are, that knows the outcome of those games and how he will play.

From the standpoint of this message board Dak losing at least one game before Romo returns, and in reality both games will ease the tension about the issue. Because a sweep or split,, and especially if the split is GB loss and Philly win means it will shift this debate into high gear.

Romo will be rusty, but even a 70% Romo will beat the Browns in all likelihood. Romo at the Stealers will start this argument full blown if Romo begins giving the ball to the other team.

So simple is relative. What the fans on this board thinks isn't important. And what the media says, for the most part, will not cause Jerry to blink.

But at what point, if Romo isn't playing up to his ability, and it costs wins, does this management make a decision? Because Dak is still a rookie, and that schedule appears to be a great deal tougher now than in the off-season when it came out - as they always do.

Which means pick your poison in the Romo versus Dak debate if Dak play isn't enough to win and Romo's body limits him to less than what we have expected from him before.

In the end, unless Romo comes out guns blazing and goes on a winning streak, this board is about to be a lighted fuse. There is far too much history of quarterback controversies with this franchise to think this is a simple equation.

If it were up to me, and I was the owner of this site, the moment Romo takes the reins I would ban the word hater, or haters. Because any stumbling by either of these two quarterbacks and this will be the most popular word on this site. And then this turns into a combat zone.

But having said that I believe the management here at the Zone does an exceptional job and defer to their better judgment on this suggestion..
 

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It's not hard at all. Some people don't like the man. Anyone would if they incorrectly blamed him for team shortcomings that he wasn't responsible for committing or do not keep his actual mistakes within a proper football perspective.

Sorry to single you out, but your comment about some don't like the man followed by incorrectly blaming is a strawman argument to me.

Fourth quarter shiort field interceptions which immediately give the game to the other team, or puts a defense in a hole they cannot defend because of talent, or tired, does not lie on the defenses shoulders.

I go back to the Bronco game against Manning. Romo throws the pick in a 498-48 tie against a team with one of the best QB's in the business and somehow it is the defenses fault the Broncs scores a field goal. Hell, they kept Manning out of the endzone.

There are a great deal of examples like this where the team was battling and holding their own up until the pick.

I like Romo and am a fan. Even though I will not make excuses for him like others. Thus I am labeled a hater. So when you say incorrectly blame, that is the excuse made for Romo. Sorry East, but he makes mistakes just like every other player, and when he does the responsibility falls on him.
 

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Sorry to single you out, but your comment about some don't like the man followed by incorrectly blaming is a strawman argument to me.

Fourth quarter shiort field interceptions which immediately give the game to the other team, or puts a defense in a hole they cannot defend because of talent, or tired, does not lie on the defenses shoulders.

I go back to the Bronco game against Manning. Romo throws the pick in a 498-48 tie against a team with one of the best QB's in the business and somehow it is the defenses fault the Broncs scores a field goal. Hell, they kept Manning out of the endzone.

it's the defense's fault because they gave up 48 points before that... this is why you're labeled a Romo hater. I can't believe anyone actually typed that out and used that game as a reference.
 

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Sorry to single you out, but your comment about some don't like the man followed by incorrectly blaming is a strawman argument to me.

Fourth quarter shiort field interceptions which immediately give the game to the other team, or puts a defense in a hole they cannot defend because of talent, or tired, does not lie on the defenses shoulders.

I go back to the Bronco game against Manning. Romo throws the pick in a 498-48 tie against a team with one of the best QB's in the business and somehow it is the defenses fault the Broncs scores a field goal. Hell, they kept Manning out of the endzone.

There are a great deal of examples like this where the team was battling and holding their own up until the pick.

I like Romo and am a fan. Even though I will not make excuses for him like others. Thus I am labeled a hater. So when you say incorrectly blame, that is the excuse made for Romo. Sorry East, but he makes mistakes just like every other player, and when he does the responsibility falls on him.
I respect your opinion.
 

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I go back to the Bronco game against Manning. Romo throws the pick in a 498-48 tie against a team with one of the best QB's in the business and somehow it is the defenses fault the Broncs scores a field goal. Hell, they kept Manning out of the endzone.
To be honest, Romo tripped on Tyron's leg and couldn't get full velocity on his pass causing the pick. So it's hard to put that all on him.

Also, Denver never seriously tried to score a TD after that completing one pass then took a knee to run out the clock on the Cowboys before kicking the winning FG. The defense isn't at fault for allowing a Bronco FG when the ball was at the 24 yard line after the pic.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000257904/GameDay-Broncos-vs-Cowboys-highlights
 

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it's the defense's fault because they gave up 48 points before that... this is why you're labeled a Romo hater. I can't believe anyone actually typed that out and used that game as a reference.

Funny how Manning's defense gave up the same 48 points and if Romo had driven down the field and scored, he (Romo) would be the hero and not one of you apologists would have brought up the lack of defense of the Bronocs.

The game is slanted toward the offense, and two top notch QB';s fought it out. But one threw a piuck in the shadow of his goalpost at the end of the game, and somehow this is the defenses fault.

Sorry, I don't make excuses for the team or individual players when they are at fault.
 

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Funny how Manning's defense gave up the same 48 points and if Romo had driven down the field and scored, he (Romo) would be the hero and not one of you apologists would have brought up the lack of defense of the Bronocs.

The game is slanted toward the offense, and two top notch QB';s fought it out. But one threw a piuck in the shadow of his goalpost at the end of the game, and somehow this is the defenses fault.

Sorry, I don't make excuses for the team or individual players when they are at fault.
Again, utterly ridiculous. The defense blew the game, end of story. Only game in NFL history lost by an offense that scored that much. Not even a debate for people whose IQ exceeds their shoe size.
 

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To be honest, Romo tripped on Tyron's leg and couldn't get full velocity on his pass causing the pick. So it's hard to put that all on him.

Also, Denver never seriously tried to score a TD after that completing one pass then took a knee to run out the clock on the Cowboys before kicking the winning FG. The defense isn't at fault for allowing a Bronco FG when the ball was at the 24 yard line after the pic.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000257904/GameDay-Broncos-vs-Cowboys-highlights

To quote the talking heads. Tony doesn't see the backside linebacker.

And Murray was open.

See it how you will.
 

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To quote the talking heads. Tony doesn't see the backside linebacker.

And Murray was open.

See it how you will.
The talking heads don't know what Tony saw or didn't see they offered their opinion.

Murray was open. So was Escobar if Tony wouldn't have tripped.

See it how you will.
 

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It wouldn't be a big deal if this were a transitional year and we didn't have a great chance at making the playoffs -- but we are 4-1 and in the hunt for the NFC East title. And if we beat GB our chances are even better. The difference between making the playoffs and not can be one game, even one play. So why change what's working?
 

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Sorry to single you out, but your comment about some don't like the man followed by incorrectly blaming is a strawman argument to me.

Fourth quarter shiort field interceptions which immediately give the game to the other team, or puts a defense in a hole they cannot defend because of talent, or tired, does not lie on the defenses shoulders.

I go back to the Bronco game against Manning. Romo throws the pick in a 498-48 tie against a team with one of the best QB's in the business and somehow it is the defenses fault the Broncs scores a field goal. Hell, they kept Manning out of the endzone.

There are a great deal of examples like this where the team was battling and holding their own up until the pick.

I like Romo and am a fan. Even though I will not make excuses for him like others. Thus I am labeled a hater. So when you say incorrectly blame, that is the excuse made for Romo. Sorry East, but he makes mistakes just like every other player, and when he does the responsibility falls on him.
Hold it, am reading this right? You are blaming the Broncos game--one the best games ever played by a Dallas QB--on the Dallas QB?
Did Dallas even punt that game?

If I misunderstood you, my apologies.
I'm sorry, if 500 yards, 5 TDs and 48 points is not enough...what heck is?
One pick does not unravel an all-world performance.
 

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Look at the history of this team.

Morton versus Staubach.
White versus Hogeboom
Aikman versus Walsh/Beuerlein
Quincy versus Hutch
Bledsoe versus Romo
Romo versus Dak

As far as the team goes, eventually putting Romo back in as a starter is evident to anyone who has eyes. Even if Dak sweeps Green Bay and Philly, the Brown's game belongs to Romo. And as it should, because that will be the easiest game to work Romo back into live fire.

From the teams point of view, what happens to cause the team to pull Romo?

@Green Bay - Dak
Eagles - Dak

@Stealers
Ravens
Commander
@Vikings
@Giants
Buccaneers
Lions
@Eagles

To win the East this year may require 10-11 wins. A split with GB/Philly leaves five wins out of eight games. Winning against the Ravens, Commanders, Bucs and Lions means you have to find a win against the Viks, Giants and Eagles, all road games. And this is if 10 wins is enough.

At what point in that final eight games does the team pull Tony if he cannot get the job done to salvage a shot at the East? Because there isn't a person on this board, no matter how much of a Romo fan they are, that knows the outcome of those games and how he will play.

From the standpoint of this message board Dak losing at least one game before Romo returns, and in reality both games will ease the tension about the issue. Because a sweep or split,, and especially if the split is GB loss and Philly win means it will shift this debate into high gear.

Romo will be rusty, but even a 70% Romo will beat the Browns in all likelihood. Romo at the Stealers will start this argument full blown if Romo begins giving the ball to the other team.

So simple is relative. What the fans on this board thinks isn't important. And what the media says, for the most part, will not cause Jerry to blink.

But at what point, if Romo isn't playing up to his ability, and it costs wins, does this management make a decision? Because Dak is still a rookie, and that schedule appears to be a great deal tougher now than in the off-season when it came out - as they always do.

Which means pick your poison in the Romo versus Dak debate if Dak play isn't enough to win and Romo's body limits him to less than what we have expected from him before.

In the end, unless Romo comes out guns blazing and goes on a winning streak, this board is about to be a lighted fuse. There is far too much history of quarterback controversies with this franchise to think this is a simple equation.

If it were up to me, and I was the owner of this site, the moment Romo takes the reins I would ban the word hater, or haters. Because any stumbling by either of these two quarterbacks and this will be the most popular word on this site. And then this turns into a combat zone.

But having said that I believe the management here at the Zone does an exceptional job and defer to their better judgment on this suggestion..

Romo's rust may not be evident at all because the same run game that is asking little of Dak should allow Romo to find his rhythm, too.
 

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It wouldn't be a big deal if this were a transitional year and we didn't have a great chance at making the playoffs -- but we are 4-1 and in the hunt for the NFC East title. And if we beat GB our chances are even better. The difference between making the playoffs and not can be one game, even one play. So why change what's working?

Because Dak isn't really the primary reason this is going so well. He's certainly not messing it up, but he's not propelling the team right now. The offensive line is.

If Romo can't do it anymore, we'll know within eight quarters. I think we all know he'll be good enough to win, but if he doesn't outplay Dak, you make the change.

I think it will come down to injury. If he gets hurt, it's over for him, and if he doesn't, it'll look very similar to 2014 with this run game.
 

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Hold it, am reading this right? You are blaming the Broncos game--one the best games ever played by a Dallas QB--on the Dallas QB?
Did Dallas even punt that game?

If I misunderstood you, my apologies.
I'm sorry, if 500 yards, 5 TDs and 48 points is not enough...what heck is?
One pick does not unravel an all-world performance.

I am stating Romo makes mistakes like all players do. I don't make excuses for those mistakes. Which, evidently puts me in the hater category.
 
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