The running game is already established

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Which is what I said in the OP. It's about the line, the QB, and the receiving corps FAR more than the running back. This isn't Minnesota where Peterson has to do it by himself. Leveon Bell wouldn't do much without Roethlisberger. Lacy would be dead meat without Rodgers. Flacco allows any Ravens back to be successful, not just Rice.

But it's mutual. When Barber/Felix Jones and the running game struggled, so did the overworked Tony Romo. It's a symbiotic relationship between run and pass game. And if the Cowboys agreed with you that any back could have done it, DeMarco Murray would never have had 449 total touches last year. I think that flies directly in the face of what you're trying to claim.
 

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Only the media outside of DFW assumed McFadden was the lead horse in the Cowboy's rb competition. I have always assumed Randle gets the first crack at starting rb and McFadden was more of a low risk signing to see if he has anything left.

And what do you think of him so far?
 

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But it only remains a threat if it is effective from game 1 out. If the Cowboys are forced to abandon it, no more threat.

Randle showed enough last year to me, that he deserved a shot as the lead back this year.
 

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About what I expected. Which is why, IMO, that Jerry and Stephen expect Randle to be the guy.

And I'm OK with that, although I'd like to see how Randle handles the passing game aspects of the position. But at this point, I don't know if I trust McFadden to even be available as a backup.
 

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Murray did get small when he had too. I also discount Randle's production last year, most of his yards were during garage time. I believe the running game will be fine because I don't think the starting RB for the season is currently on the roster.

Why do people keep saying this?

Do you actually know how many "garbage" time carries he had because I remember a lot of big 1st half runs and Murray running a lot in the 4th quarter.
 

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But it's mutual. When Barber/Felix Jones and the running game struggled, so did the overworked Tony Romo. It's a symbiotic relationship between run and pass game. And if the Cowboys agreed with you that any back could have done it, DeMarco Murray would never have had 449 total touches last year. I think that flies directly in the face of what you're trying to claim.

When Barber and Felix were here, the offensive line wasn't nearly this good. Nor were the receivers at the time. Romo is better now, too.
 

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When Barber and Felix were here, the offensive line wasn't nearly this good. Nor were the receivers at the time. Romo is better now, too.

That line was putting some guys in the Pro Bowl too. The issues came when this team struggled to run the ball and went pass happy. When that happened, things went downhill. A great portion of that was caused by the deterioration of the O-line, but the ineffectiveness of the backs contributed a great deal as well.
 

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That line was putting some guys in the Pro Bowl too. The issues came when this team struggled to run the ball and went pass happy. When that happened, things went downhill. A great portion of that was caused by the deterioration of the O-line, but the ineffectiveness of the backs contributed a great deal as well.

Was it ineffectiveness of the backs or the play caller?
 

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Some of you are about to get a cruel lesson about the "plug and play" running back philosophy.

(Hope I have to eat my words)
 

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Why do people keep saying this?

Do you actually know how many "garbage" time carries he had because I remember a lot of big 1st half runs and Murray running a lot in the 4th quarter.

J. Randle played in 16 games last year, he had 51 carries for about 350 yards, that come to about 3 carries a game. I saw every snap in 2014 so I would love to see all these big first half highlight runs YOU saw JR have.
 

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That line was putting some guys in the Pro Bowl too. The issues came when this team struggled to run the ball and went pass happy. When that happened, things went downhill. A great portion of that was caused by the deterioration of the O-line, but the ineffectiveness of the backs contributed a great deal as well.

That line got Romo dang near killed.
 

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Randle showed enough last year to me, that he deserved a shot as the lead back this year.

I don't mind the Cowboys giving him a shot...I just wish an opportunity to put a better insurance policy behind him would have materialized.
 

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Murray did get small when he had too. I also discount Randle's production last year, most of his yards were during garage time. I believe the running game will be fine because I don't think the starting RB for the season is currently on the roster.

Most of Randles runs were against starters. He had some nice runs in Seattle. He could very well be an average back but that is all you need in the NFL today to have decent running game. The talent level of runner is dependent on the talent level of the line, less talented the line more talented the runner needs to be and vice versa.
 

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This could be the year that we keep 4 RBs.
That's unfortunate given that the player that maybe saved us an extra roster spot or two last year (Dwayne Harris) is gone.
Does Lache Seastrunk play special teams?
 

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J. Randle played in 16 games last year, he had 51 carries for about 350 yards, that come to about 3 carries a game. I saw every snap in 2014 so I would love to see all these big first half highlight runs YOU saw JR have.

How about the Seattle game for one.

And I am not the guy making claims about garbage time, so using your logic all of his carries were in the 4th quarter which we know is patently wrong.
 

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Some of you are about to get a cruel lesson about the "plug and play" running back philosophy.

(Hope I have to eat my words)

Murray was nothing special until last year. If he was, he would still be here.

In this case, I think plug-and-play will be very much the same.
 

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J. Randle played in 16 games last year, he had 51 carries for about 350 yards, that come to about 3 carries a game. I saw every snap in 2014 so I would love to see all these big first half highlight runs YOU saw JR have.

The run against Chicago was the most impressive run all year in Dallas. Randle was outstanding at Oklahoma State. He dropped in the draft because he's a knucklehead. And yes, that concerns me.
 

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Much ado these days about where all of DeMarco Murray's yards will wind up. Who, how many times, and for how many they'll be divvied up among the running back remnants from Survivor: Oxnard Edition.

It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter who the "who" is. Doesn't matter who gets the most tries at it. Doesn't even really matter the tally of total yards by season's end. It just doesn't matter on this team.

Being able to run the ball effectively is 90 percent of the point. Dallas can and will, and everybody on the schedule is fully aware. That's success already, and we're six weeks from a real game.

The running threat is real, and it's spectacular.

This offensive line will force every team to respect every play fake. It'll require a safety to lurk most every play. It'll make every linebacker lean forward just a bit before every snap, and play a tad closer to the line. It'll make defensive linemen hesitate a bit every time before they go hunting for Romo.

There was a time when play fakes around here only worked because they made defensive players laugh out loud. Dallas' o-line got zero push, and Romo had to dance and spin his way into seemingly every throw. Backs sheepishly knew the hole would never be there for them. It was a solo act.

Today, it's an ominous site for a defender to see Dallas break the huddle. The possibilities are endless. "That quarterback is about to rip us apart. But that running back - whoever he is - is going to have a canyon to run through if we don't get up in there. There's that damn tight end again. Crap, Dez is over there, and watch that other dude that seems to only score touchdowns on the other side. Oh, and Peter Dinklage with his goldilocks is in motion. Son of a........"

I fully expect Dallas to throw it more this year, but not really. Screens and hitches are like long handoffs, and they'll be used as part of the running game. More will be on Romo than last year with his better health, and the offense will be more diverse for it. It'll be a nice balance from his previous seasons and last year.

Balance is why..."any running back could run behind that offensive line". We hear that phrase so often, but it's an unfinished sentence. It's not just that offensive line. It's that quarterback, and that receiving corps, too. Balance.

There are a lot of good running backs in the world. Most every team has a really good one or two of them. They're not hard to find or replace, and there's only a small handful that are truly special at it.

Until an elite back surfaces around here, I have no doubt that whoever is totin' it in the meantime will be just fine. It'll make for an interesting watch and conversation, but it's not the crisis we perceive.

They'll get it figured out just fine.

I'm not that worried about RB but I haven't crowned this O-line as invincible just yet. Yes, they helped Murray have a career year, but in case you haven't been watching, Murray was special from the first time he entered Dallas. It was immediately obvious that Murray was the best RB we had since Smith. The O-line last year was completely dominant at run blocking but had their issues in pass protection. If they take a drop in run blocking, then they might not be as elite as we thought they were. We're taking a big gamble on our O-line this year. We're basically telling the league, "I know we were Super Bowl contenders last year because of our running game, but we're willing to bet it was a product of our O-line. That's why we're going into the season with a career backup and an oft-injured vet who never panned out." So let's hope our gamble pays off.
 
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