The Ticket question of the day

[jazzcat22]

From the Musers...1310 AM The Ticket....
They do this every day each year during TC, usually at 6:55 AM CST.

What do you call 20 Philadelphia Eagles fans in the basement......

A W[h]ine Cellar.....
[though more appropriate now for the Patriots....]

But the real question was has Jason Garrett grown into the HC for the NFL and what we wanted him to be.
They said because he now has the players he wanted, needed, he has more creds and with winning.
The players play hard for him, and never seem to quit.
he is boring story teller, but the players will follow him, and not boring to the players.

In 5 season, though 8-8, he never had a losing season. But he has grown, and shown it. Like giving up play calling and now delegates other things to his coaches. Though he had the 8-8 seasons for whatever reasons, not having the players there, that says a little something. Players always played hard for him.

 

[Galian Beast]

From the Musers...1310 AM The Ticket....
They do this every day each year during TC, usually at 6:55 AM CST.

What do you call 20 Philadelphia Eagles fans in the basement......

A W[h]ine Cellar.....
[though more appropriate now for the Patriots....]

But the real question was has Jason Garrett grown into the HC for the NFL and what we wanted him to be.
They said because he now has the players he wanted, needed, he has more creds and with winning.
The players play hard for him, and never seem to quit.
he is boring story teller, but the players will follow him, and not boring to the players.

In 5 season, though 8-8, he never had a losing season. But he has grown, and shown it. Like giving up play calling and now delegates other things to his coaches. Though he had the 8-8 seasons for whatever reasons, not having the players there, that says a little something. Players always played hard for him.

A lot of people are saying that they are eating crow on Jason Garrett.

I won't be one of them. I was against Garrett and for good reason. I think he was entirely inexperienced to be offensive coordinator, and was ridiculously inexperienced to be a head coach. The growing pains we had with him as head coach cost a great deal of Tony Romo and Jason Witten's careers. And he certainly played a part in us losing a lot of games, and thus missing the playoffs for multiple years. I also don't think he has the capacity to be a coordinator and a coach. I don't think it is any surprise that with two experienced coordinators, Garrett has his best year ever as a head coach.

Does Garrett need to go? No. Is he a good motivator and understand created a philosophy and team culture? Yes. Is he a great offensive or defensive mind? No.

He's a functional coach, who will hopefully get better with experience and ingredients.

So in short, I'm not eating a single bit of crow on this.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

This year will tell us more about Garrett.

Nobody ever had a problem with the good things Red brought to the table, it was the blunders and gaffes.

He was given a long leash that most coaches wouldnt have been given.

Having the Coordinators we have now has made a huge difference.

The story going forward is all that really matters, and this year is the next chapter.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

A lot of people are saying that they are eating crow on Jason Garrett.

I won't be one of them. I was against Garrett and for good reason. I think he was entirely inexperienced to be offensive coordinator, and was ridiculously inexperienced to be a head coach. The growing pains we had with him as head coach cost a great deal of Tony Romo and Jason Witten's careers. And he certainly played a part in us losing a lot of games, and thus missing the playoffs for multiple years. I also don't think he has the capacity to be a coordinator and a coach. I don't think it is any surprise that with two experienced coordinators, Garrett has his best year ever as a head coach.

Does Garrett need to go? No. Is he a good motivator and understand created a philosophy and team culture? Yes. Is he a great offensive or defensive mind? No.

He's a functional coach, who will hopefully get better with experience and ingredients.

So in short, I'm not eating a single bit of crow on this.

There is absolutely no reason for anyone to eat crow when it comes to Garrett. And while a lotta idiots blasted him with meritless criticisms, there were PLENTY of valid criticisms. The future is all that matters so lets see what he does this year.

 

[jazzcat22]

A lot of people are saying that they are eating crow on Jason Garrett.

I won't be one of them. I was against Garrett and for good reason. I think he was entirely inexperienced to be offensive coordinator, and was ridiculously inexperienced to be a head coach. The growing pains we had with him as head coach cost a great deal of Tony Romo and Jason Witten's careers. And he certainly played a part in us losing a lot of games, and thus missing the playoffs for multiple years. I also don't think he has the capacity to be a coordinator and a coach. I don't think it is any surprise that with two experienced coordinators, Garrett has his best year ever as a head coach.

Does Garrett need to go? No. Is he a good motivator and understand created a philosophy and team culture? Yes. Is he a great offensive or defensive mind? No.

He's a functional coach, who will hopefully get better with experience and ingredients.

So in short, I'm not eating a single bit of crow on this.

No one said this was a crow eating question...it was just a question they had for the day.
All coaches grow, Tom Landry had to grow.
That was another thing they said...this roster and talent level is so much better now then when he took over. I think even a veteran coach would have had a hard time winning with aging out of shape players, with cap issues as well as all the injuries for 3 years in those 8-8 seasons.
First thing Garrett starting doing was getting rid of those aging overpaid players, even at the cost of some wins. Just as Jimmy gutted the team with he took over [without cap issues for Jimmy]. not comparing any coaches to coaches here. But Garrett has cap issues as the others did not.

 

[Galian Beast]

No one said this was a crow eating question...it was just a question they had for the day.
All coaches grow, Tom Landry had to grow.
That was another thing they said...this roster and talent level is so much better now then when he took over. I think even a veteran coach would have had a hard time winning with aging out of shape players, with cap issues as well as all the injuries for 3 years in those 8-8 seasons.
First thing Garrett starting doing was getting rid of those aging overpaid players, even at the cost of some wins. Just as Jimmy gutted the team with he took over [without cap issues for Jimmy]. not comparing any coaches to coaches here. But Garrett has cap issues as the others did not.

I didn't say anyone did...

 

[Wheeltax]

I've always liked Garrett. Never having a losing season through three years of rebuilding is something to be commended, in my opinion. It sucks that he did seem to have to learn many things on the job, but it's working out right now.

Personally I reject needing/wanting experienced coordinators as a valid criticism of an NFL head coach. Are we going to ignore the roster/culture turnover and apparent changes in personnel management that happened during this period that had at least as much to do with better performance over time?

 

[Apollo Creed]

None of those 8-8 teams would have made any noise in the playoffs.

Last years team could have won it all, ditto for this year.

 

[SHAMSzy]

I love Garrett as the HC. I am a believer of the idea that the HC should be the overseer of the entire team rather than having your HC be the leader of the O or the leader of the D and having a coordinator of the other dominate that side. JG as the HC and leader of the O was terrible, JG as the overseer of this entire team is awesome.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Whatever,,, new head coaches always grow into the job and this head coach did it while simultaneously rebuilding the team and coaching staff. Zero complaints about what he has done and the direction this team is going, he's doing a great job. Will he be successful in putting them over the top? Don't know. Lots of coaches seem to be Schottenheimers, good at building good teams but not quite good enough to make them champions,,, some of that is luck too. I think healthy franchises maintain a high level of competitiveness over time and are prepaired to cash in when the planets align and they are blessed with special players. I think Red is good enough to do that...

 

[CATCH17]

None of those 8-8 teams would have made any noise in the playoffs.

Last years team could have won it all, ditto for this year.

You can't say that.

We've seen the 9-7, barely make the playoffs team, win the superbowl several times.

 

[Apollo Creed]

You can't say that.

We've seen the 9-7, barely make the playoffs team, win the superbowl several times.

Our record against winning teams those years was like 1-15 or something. Based on that, what makes you think they would've been able to go 4-0 in the playoffs against great teams?

 

[CATCH17]

Our record against winning teams those years was like 1-15 or something. Based on that, what makes you think they would've been able to go 4-0 in the playoffs against great teams?

Because you never know what will happen in sports.

Giants were 0-2 against the Cowboys going into Wildcard Sunday.. Based on that, what makes you think they could've beat us?

 

[Floatyworm]

What do you call 20 Philadelphia Eagles fans in the basement......

Lyon County Jail Inmate Listing?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I love Garrett as the HC. I am a believer of the idea that the HC should be the overseer of the entire team rather than having your HC be the leader of the O or the leader of the D and having a coordinator of the other dominate that side. JG as the HC and leader of the O was terrible, JG as the overseer of this entire team is awesome.

One year, dont get that anointing oil out just yet. We've still got the 3 yr history prior to last year. It all looks good right now so there is reason for exuberance, but back to back to back 8-8's wasnt all that long ago. And missing the playoffs 3 yrs in a row when all you had to do was win ONE game and you're in, wasnt all that long ago.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Because you never know what will happen in sports.

Giants were 0-2 against the Cowboys going into Wildcard Sunday.. Based on that, what makes you think they could've beat us?

We weren't the Giants, they actually had a talented defense. We were trotting scrubs out that side of the field and hoping that Romo could score 40, or 50, or 60 lol.

Trust me I understand your point, anything can happen when you get in the tournament - but you and I both know none of those 8-8 teams were going anywhere.

 

[Seven]

None of those 8-8 teams would have made any noise in the playoffs.

Last years team could have won it all, ditto for this year.

Yep. Backing in and praying for miracles doesn't make good football for me.

It would've been embarrassing and a boatload of ammunition for the likes of ESPN and others...........and you know they wouldn't let it go........ever.

 

[CATCH17]

We weren't the Giants, they actually had a talented defense. We were trotting scrubs out that side of the field and hoping that Romo could score 40, or 50, or 60 lol.

Trust me I understand your point, anything can happen when you get in the tournament - but you and I both know none of those 8-8 teams were going anywhere.

Well I disagree.

I've seen Patriots teams that couldn't stop a nose bleed win the Superbowl.

Almost every team has huge holes. Including Superbowl teams.. That is what parity football has brought to the table.

So with a QB like Romo you can't say once we got to the playoffs we had no chance in any season because you could put Romo on the Jacksonville Jaguars and that team has a punchers chance in any game against any team.

 

[Fletch]

Glad their are those who can justify themselves regarding Garrett, whatever that may be that allows them to sleep at night.

This is such a dead horse subject. JG is the Cowboys coach, like it or not. And however you choose to spin it to make yourself feel better, he's still an up and coming HC (not much tenure) in the NFL, regardless how he got there, or the roles that changed around him.

 

[DallasEast]

Well I disagree.

I've seen Patriots teams that couldn't stop a nose bleed win the Superbowl.

Almost every team has huge holes. Including Superbowl teams.. That is what parity football has brought to the table.

So with a QB like Romo you can't say once we got to the playoffs we had no chance in any season because you could put Romo on the Jacksonville Jaguars and that team has a punchers chance in any game against any team.

I totally support the argument of parity in this era of the NFL. However, I disagree about the ultimate success of any of those 8-8 teams in the playoffs. A team must work in concert to overcome the abilities of their opponent. Those 8-8 teams exhibited mental mistakes too often by individual players (e.g. offense, defense and special teams), and to a lesser extent sometimes from the coaching staff as well. In my opinion, super bowl teams do not beat themselves while trying to beat their opponents. Those 8-8 teams were their own worst enemy.