The Tony Romo era is not over

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AzorAhai

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But Rodgers, is also one in a million... First you have to get a projected top 10 QB to slip that far, which isn't all that uncommon, but to have that player end up being as good as Aaron Rodgers, that's practically one in a million... Rodgers just isn't a good example, he's one of the greatest QB's ever to play... Manziel is a better example of a QB who fell on draft day, and his perceived value was good... Brady Quinn is another...

I don't mind trying to find the next Tom Brady in the 6th, or perhaps even the next Russell Wilson in the 3rd, but there's really no circumstance where I would want to spend a 1st or probably even a 2nd any time soon on a QB.

When you look at the QB's drafted year by year, you see how rare it is to even find a QB who is a legit starter, and it's almost impossible to find a QB who is special like a Romo or a Rodgers... And half of the good to really good QB's, they were taken #1 overall, and I (thankfully) don't see us getting anywhere near the #1 pick anytime soon...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

Comparing Rodgers fall to Manziels is simply not identical. Rodgers was supposed to be in serious consideration for the 1st pick. His fall was extremely out of the ordinary. I don't really care what he turned in to, more to the fact that a top 3 talent in a draft inexplicably fell that far to begin with. To compare it to recent years, it would be like Clowney falling to the 20's, or Luck falling to the 20's. It just doesn't happen very frequently. If a top 5 talent were to fall like that, I would have no problems with the pick regardless of how it turned out 5 years later. Manziel was never rated that high and many didn't even think he was a 1st Rd worthy QB.

The sheer talent gap between the tiers of players is just too great with a fall like that at that point to pass up. For this year, I think that player is Goff. I think he is the best QB prospect since the Luck draft and he goes very early, top pick possibly. If for some reason he doesn't, take him and don't look back. The reason Rodgers is a perfect example is not because of what he became, but because of what he was projected to be before the draft.
 

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When you have a QB that breaks down as much as Sean Lee......you have a problem that needs to be address. You signed up to Tony for this year....given. But next year....Cowboys are dumb to hitch up to this pony again. He's just not gonna get though 16 games ...and not wear down or get injured again. Cowboys need to face this fact...and move on.o_O

The fact that you think it's time to move on from a top 3 QB coming off an MVP caliber season derails any credibility you may have had...ever.
 

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Fans are fans. Scouts are scouts who Jerry and company trust. Our drafts have gone pretty well the last few years.

They've been pretty good over the past 5 seasons, but overall they've hit on too small of a percentage of 4th-7th round picks.. And they haven't really hit it big on any of those later-round picks, unless you consider Joseph Randle or Anthony Hitchens hitting it big, because that's the best we have to show for the 4th-7th in the past 5 seasons...
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=1200&type=team
 

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Over?! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!



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We draft a QB because Romo doesn't have a ton of years left and we don't want to be left like the Texans who are scrambling to find a QB. You get a guy, sit him on the bench a couple of years and let him take the reins when Romo retires or let him step in if Romo gets injured.
 

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You draft a QB in the first a) because our starter is getting older and more susceptible to injury. B) And with those two fact in play with our starting QB, our backup QB is essentially a potential starter at any given moment. I for one would happily pass on a first round position player for the right potential QB. It is ideal as a matter of fact, because he would come in under no pressure and have a few years to apprentice under Romo. The year may not be over in which case I would be happy, but if we miss the playoffs the silverlining is we may be in a position to take our future franchise QB.
 

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We draft a QB because Romo doesn't have a ton of years left and we don't want to be left like the Texans who are scrambling to find a QB. You get a guy, sit him on the bench a couple of years and let him take the reins when Romo retires or let him step in if Romo gets injured.

Again, Romo plans on playing for more than a couple of years beyond this season, at least three... We are already a pretty good team, but it would really help our chances of winning a Super Bowl if we use our top draft picks on a stud DT or FS that could come in and be an instant upgrade... Drafting a QB in the first-round and having him sitting on the bench for a minimum of 3 seasons is not going to help us win the Super Bowl with Tony Romo as our QB...

And again, it's very unlikely that you'll draft the next Aaron Rodgers, even if you had the #1 pick... It's much more likely that we'd do what Cleveland did and spend a first-rounder on the next Brandon Weeden...

But there's another scenario that's just as bad, you could spend a high pick on a QB, like Detroit did in 2009 when they took Mathew Stafford #1 overall, and he could show all the promise and potential that Stafford has at times... You know he's a starting-caliber QB, and sometimes he looks really good, but in the end, he's just not quite good enough... He was just good enough to give you just enough hope that your team ended wasting 6+ seasons hoping he'd take that next step but instead he regresses...

Which is worse, Cleveland drafting Weeden and knowing within 2 seasons to cut bait, or being Detroit drafting Stafford, who plays just good enough to string you along for 6+ seasons? I don't like either option, which is why I don't think it's time to start throwing high draft picks at a problem we don't yet have...
 

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You draft a QB in the first a) because our starter is getting older and more susceptible to injury. B) And with those two fact in play with our starting QB, our backup QB is essentially a potential starter at any given moment. I for one would happily pass on a first round position player for the right potential QB. It is ideal as a matter of fact, because he would come in under no pressure and have a few years to apprentice under Romo. The year may not be over in which case I would be happy, but if we miss the playoffs the silverlining is we may be in a position to take our future franchise QB.

Okay... These are the most recent first-round QB's we were in a position to draft but didn't, just tell me which one these QB's you wish we would have drafted instead of the position player we drafted... ...

2014
Johhny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater or Zack Martin

2013
EJ Manuel or Travis Fredrick

2012
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden or Morris Claiborne

2011
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder or Tyron Smith

2010
Tim Tebow or Dez Bryant
 

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When you have a QB that breaks down as much as Sean Lee......you have a problem that needs to be address. You signed up to Tony for this year....given. But next year....Cowboys are dumb to hitch up to this pony again. He's just not gonna get though 16 games ...and not wear down or get injured again. Cowboys need to face this fact...and move on.o_O

They already have. Kellen Moore is just sitting there ready to go. It's a brilliant strategy by the Cowboys to hide him in plain sight.:) Just funnin with ya.
 

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I could see Romo play well for 2-3 more seasons. I also could seeing this thing wind down awfully fast.

Forget the clavicle injury. Could have happened to any quarterback. The issue is age and his back.

Very, very few quarterbacks play well much after age 35...and how many of those that do have to deal with a chronically bad back like Romo has?

Even fewer QB's come back from back surgery, and go on to have a MVP worthy season like Romo did, and this season was looking much the same for him... Romo's not the average, I think he's proven to be the exception to a lot of rules...
 

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When you have a QB that breaks down as much as Sean Lee......you have a problem that needs to be address. You signed up to Tony for this year....given. But next year....Cowboys are dumb to hitch up to this pony again. He's just not gonna get though 16 games ...and not wear down or get injured again. Cowboys need to face this fact...and move on.o_O

Romo had missed 15 possible starts in his career prior to this season, and a few of those were a result of him being shut down early in 2010 because we were already out of contention... He'll probably miss 7 starts this season... Romo starting in 132 out of 154 possible games for his career is hardly comparable to Sean Lee starting in only 37 out of 69 possible career starts... You're just a hater who can't stop fantasizing about your boy from Boise taking over for Romo...
 

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Murray was a 3rd rounder...

What a steal...looked it up like I should've before posting 71st pick, sixth running back taken, Ingram, Ryan Williams, Shane Vereen, Mikel LeShoure, Daniel Thomas all taken before him that year.
 

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It doesn't matter that Tony Romo thinks he can play for another 2-3 years ... I think I can win an UFC championship at 45 also. But guess what ??? It's not happening.

Age and injuries are realities. We can't expect to go into another season HOPING that Tony Romo ONLY gets injured for 2 or 3 games. It's only going to get worse. We're going to get stuck in limbo ala post-Aikman. If we didn't luck into Tony Romo, we'd be staring at 15 years of Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Vinny Greentesticles, Drew Bleedslow, etc, etc, etc. Brady Quinn and Johnny Manziel would probably have been wearing Cowboy uniforms. Really sad.
 

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Franchise QB's don't grow on trees.. But I know you have 0% chance of getting one if you don't try..

I'm not saying don't try to draft a QB worth developing, but I am saying that now is not the time to start throwing first-round picks at a problem we don't have... We already have that elusive elite franchise QB... We need to spend our highest picks on players that will help us maximize our last few years with the elite QB we already have...

Since 2005, there have only been 4 QB's drafted that would be considered a bonafide franchise QB's...

Aaron Rodgers (24th, 2005)
Matt Ryan (1st, 2008)
Andrew Luck (1st, 2012)
Russell Wilson (75th, 2012)

In 9+ seasons, out of 128 total QB's drafted in that span, only 4 top-shelf QB's have emerged.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm
 
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What is it with this sudden infatuation with so many Dallas fans acting like the season is over, the draft is practically tomorrow, and that we desperately need to draft a QB with our top pick...?...

Last I checked, we still have a MVP-caliber QB, who indicated earlier this year that he wants to play for at least another 3-4 seasons beyond 2015... And it's not like Romo has shown decline, on the contrary, he has actually gotten better with age.

The Cowboys are pretty good right now, and our focus should be drafting other impact players to surround Romo with so we can win now. It's not time to worry about winning 5 years from now...

Why are so many zoners rushing to put in fork in the Tony Romo era? He's not done, not even close, but we are close to contending for a Super Bowl, and now is the time to go all-in with Romo. You can draft 200 QB's before you find another one as good as Romo, so you don't waste his best years by throwing away a 1st-round pick on a QB who's destined to ride the bench and will probably be a bust anyway.

Furthermore, Tony's not dead, he will return soon, and he will save our season. All this talk of QB will look even more silly if we're picking last in the first-round, which is exactly what Romo says will happen, just ask Tom Brady...

The season is not over, and Romo's era is about as over as John Elway's era was over in 1994...

I agree, I hope Romo can come back and lead Dallas to a Super Bowl Victory this year !!!!
 

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Okay... These are the most recent first-round QB's we were in a position to draft but didn't, just tell me which one these QB's you wish we would have drafted instead of the position player we drafted... ...

2014
Johhny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater or Zack Martin

2013
EJ Manuel or Travis Fredrick

2012
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden or Morris Claiborne

2011
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder or Tyron Smith

2010
Tim Tebow or Dez Bryant
Weeden! Oh wait.............
 

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I'm not saying don't try to draft a QB worth developing, but I am saying that now is not the time to start throwing first-round picks at a problem we don't have... We already have that elusive elite franchise QB... We need to spend our highest picks on players that will help us maximize our last few years with the elite QB we already have...

I don't question Tony's ability. I question if he can stay healthy. QB's gonna get hit it's a fact. Online can't keep him clean every game.
 
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