The Tony Romo era is not over

[jnday]

You're talking about what happened following the Aikman era, but how did we get Troy Aikman? By being really bad and getting the #1 overall draft pick... That's the best formula for getting an elite QB, and you do that AFTER Romo retires. Until then, you better appreciate the great QB you already have, and use all your high draft picks to complete the team around Romo.

As a rule of thumb, you almost have to have a truly great QB to win the Super Bowl, and Dallas has one right now! Romo can finish his career like John Elway, but the team needs a few more really good players in the right position. As I stated previously, the Broncos don't win those two Super Bowls to end Elway's career if they didn't draft John Mobley and Trevor Pryce in the first-rounds of the 1996-97 drafts.

How did Dallas not address Aikman retiring? Did they not draft Quincy Carter in the second-round following Aikman's retirement? You may not like what they did by drafting Carter, but the situation was addressed... What really helped the Cowboys unravel so quickly after Aikman was trading away our first-round picks in both 2000 and 2001 for Joey Galloway! So we were stuck with drafting Quincy at #53, because Drew Brees went at #32 to the Chargers! If we still had that first-round pick, in desperate need of a QB we probably would have traded-down out of the #6 spot and drafted Drew Brees... Then who knows what happens...

I'm all for taking a chance on a couple QB's in later rounds, like I'm sure we all wish we had done in the 2000 draft, when both Tom Brady and Marc Bulger went in the 6th-round. Finding a great QB is always a crap-shoot, no matter where they're drafted, and I'm all for rolling the dice now, but not in rounds 1 or 2...

I like this plan. So ,we should sit around and wait to have the worst record in the league? Sounds like a winner.

 

[Asklesko]

it will be though, sooner rather than later. i don't know why jerry can't accept that.

 

[Nightman]

I like this plan. So ,we should sit around and wait to have the worst record in the league? Sounds like a winner.

And then hope a Franchise QB is available that year

 

[dallasdave]

Lets visit this again after Romo wins Super Bowl 50 !!!

 

[Dodger12]

You're talking about what happened following the Aikman era, but how did we get Troy Aikman? By being really bad and getting the #1 overall draft pick... That's the best formula for getting an elite QB, and you do that AFTER Romo retires. Until then, you better appreciate the great QB you already have, and use all your high draft picks to complete the team around Romo.

As a rule of thumb, you almost have to have a truly great QB to win the Super Bowl, and Dallas has one right now! Romo can finish his career like John Elway, but the team needs a few more really good players in the right position. As I stated previously, the Broncos don't win those two Super Bowls to end Elway's career if they didn't draft John Mobley and Trevor Pryce in the first-rounds of the 1996-97 drafts.

How did Dallas not address Aikman retiring? Did they not draft Quincy Carter in the second-round following Aikman's retirement? You may not like what they did by drafting Carter, but the situation was addressed... What really helped the Cowboys unravel so quickly after Aikman was trading away our first-round picks in both 2000 and 2001 for Joey Galloway! So we were stuck with drafting Quincy at #53, because Drew Brees went at #32 to the Chargers! If we still had that first-round pick, in desperate need of a QB we probably would have traded-down out of the #6 spot and drafted Drew Brees... Then who knows what happens...

I'm all for taking a chance on a couple QB's in later rounds, like I'm sure we all wish we had done in the 2000 draft, when both Tom Brady and Marc Bulger went in the 6th-round. Finding a great QB is always a crap-shoot, no matter where they're drafted, and I'm all for rolling the dice now, but not in rounds 1 or 2...

There's a lot of contradiction and assumptions in your post. You state that the best formula for getting an elite QB is having the #1 overall pick. Which elite QB's in today's NFL have been #1 overall picks? The best QB's in the game today have NOT been #1. Matter of fact, some have not even been drafted in the 1st round. And that holds true for many, if not most SB winning QB's. Aikman was the exception, not the norm. I'm too lazy to do the math so late at night, but go to the following web site and tell me who the #1's were. Butu there are a whole lot of QB's on this list that were not #1 picks:

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.aspx?release_id=97

And you're assuming what we would have done with our #1's that we traded for Galloway. Not sure we would have grabbed Brees or any other QB.

And what made the team unravel during the end of Aikman's career was absolutely horrendous drafting. I mean putrid. And it started when Aikman was still in his prime in the mid-90's.

 

[Beast_from_East]

It doesn't matter that Tony Romo thinks he can play for another 2-3 years ... I think I can win an UFC championship at 45 also. But guess what ??? It's not happening.

Age and injuries are realities. We can't expect to go into another season HOPING that Tony Romo ONLY gets injured for 2 or 3 games. It's only going to get worse. We're going to get stuck in limbo ala post-Aikman. If we didn't luck into Tony Romo, we'd be staring at 15 years of Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Vinny Greentesticles, Drew Bleedslow, etc, etc, etc. Brady Quinn and Johnny Manziel would probably have been wearing Cowboy uniforms. Really sad.

Well, many of us thought the plan was to go with a run heavy offense where Romo only had to throw a limited number of times and this would protect him from getting hit, especially if a play broke down and Romo had to hold the ball waiting for somebody to get open.

A scenario like that could be disastrous, good thing we prevented something like that from happening..............oh, wait

 

[cowboyuptx]

There's a lot of contradiction and assumptions in your post. You state that the best formula for getting an elite QB is having the #1 overall pick. Which elite QB's in today's NFL have been #1 overall picks? The best QB's in the game today have NOT been #1. Matter of fact, some have not even been drafted in the 1st round. And that holds true for many, if not most SB winning QB's. Aikman was the exception, not the norm. I'm too lazy to do the math so late at night, but go to the following web site and tell me who the #1's were. Butu there are a whole lot of QB's on this list that were not #1 picks:

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.aspx?release_id=97

And you're assuming what we would have done with our #1's that we traded for Galloway. Not sure we would have grabbed Brees or any other QB.

And what made the team unravel during the end of Aikman's career was absolutely horrendous drafting. I mean putrid. And it started when Aikman was still in his prime in the mid-90's.

You're right in regards to the #1 pick thing, most of the very best QB's in today's game weren't #1 picks, but at the same time, there's still a few pretty good ones that were picked #1... Furthermore, people are acting like it would be the worst thing in the world to have a losing season or two after Romo retires, and my point was really that even if you're so bad that it earns you the #1 pick, then that's not such a bad thing, because that's how we got Aikman, and because having like a top-5 pick is a good way to get your next franchise QB... that's not such a bad thing, because many of the best QB's are chosen in the top 5-10 of the draft, and if you have the #1 overall pick, then you obviously have your choice of top QB candidates, but you still have to pick the right one... It wasn't meant to be taken as a literal commentary on the success of QB's chosen #1 overall... Nor was I trying to imply that we would actually need to have the #1 pick in order to get a really good one.

But again, having a top-5 pick to throw at a QB is a pretty good formula for finding an elite QB

Ben Roethlisberger #11
Phillip Rivers #4
Matt Ryan #3
Andrew Luck #1
Peyton Manning #1

How many really good QB's are there in a generation? Not very many, and about half of them are top-10 picks...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

Carson Palmer #1
Eli Manning #1
Cam Newton #1
Matt Stafford #1
Ryan Tannehill #8

Donovan McNabb #2
Daunte Culpepper #11
Steve McNair #3
Drew Bledsoe #1
Troy Aikman #1
Jim Everett #3
John Elway #1

Vinny Testaverde #1
Jeff George #1
Trent Dilfer #6
Kerry Collins #5
Michael Vick #1

I'm also not saying that we need to wait to draft a QB until we can get a top-10 pick, now is the time to use later-round pick to try and find the next Tom Brady or Russell Wilson.

 

[burmafrd]

There's a lot of contradiction and assumptions in your post. You state that the best formula for getting an elite QB is having the #1 overall pick. Which elite QB's in today's NFL have been #1 overall picks? The best QB's in the game today have NOT been #1. Matter of fact, some have not even been drafted in the 1st round. And that holds true for many, if not most SB winning QB's. Aikman was the exception, not the norm. I'm too lazy to do the math so late at night, but go to the following web site and tell me who the #1's were. Butu there are a whole lot of QB's on this list that were not #1 picks:

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.aspx?release_id=97

And you're assuming what we would have done with our #1's that we traded for Galloway. Not sure we would have grabbed Brees or any other QB.

And what made the team unravel during the end of Aikman's career was absolutely horrendous drafting. I mean putrid. And it started when Aikman was still in his prime in the mid-90's.

Take away the fluke of Brady and how many starting QBs in the SB over the last 20 years were NOT first rd picks?

 

[perrykemp]

Take away the fluke of Brady and how many starting QBs in the SB over the last 20 years were NOT first rd picks?

Going back to 1994 (20 years)

Young (1 Superbowl win)
Favre (1 Superbowl win)
Wilson (1 Superbow win)
Brees (1 Superbowl win)
Brad Johnson (1 Superbowl win)
Warner (1 Superbowl win)
Brady (4 Superbowl wins)

Excluding the SBs Brady played in = roughly 42% of the Superbowl winning QBs weren't 1st round picks.

If you include Brady, 50% of the Superbowl winning QBs from the last 20 years weren't 1st round picks.

Also lots of other non 1st rounders got their teams to the Superbowl but didn't win it:

Stan Humphries
Neil O'Donnell
Chris Chandler
Rich Gannon
Jake Delhomme
Matt Hasselbeck
Colin Kaepernick

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

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