The Weeden Weeden Weeden thread

[RunDMC]

Of course, seriously. Why would I post it if I didn't mean it? It might have been a little closer cosmetically, but we wouldn't have been in position early in the 4th with a chance to win the game.

Why not? All we needed was a competent quarterback and a reciever who can make some plays. You're telling me we wouldn't have be in the game with an All Pro quarterback and wide reciever? If anything Dallas would be the one winning 30-6 especially with how dominant Greg Hardy was.

 

[crashintonickdm]

man theres been some embarrassing moments. i was in tears that night too. such an awful loss.

 

[TheFinisher]

Should be a .... The "I Hate the Football Gods" Thread.

Seriously, **** them.

 

[Idgit]

Why not? All we needed was a competent quarterback and a reciever who can make some plays. You're telling me we wouldn't have be in the game with an All Pro quarterback and wide reciever? If anything Dallas would be the one winning 30-6 especially with how dominant Greg Hardy was.

Maybe we'll get our wish and see later in the year. Our defense played great, but the Pats were still moving the ball. Our OL hasn't blocked really well in any game this season and--while they were better today--with Leary's play, that string continued. I believe the Pats would take out Dez and we'd have had to outscore them throwing to Witten and Williams. Even with Tony, I don't think that gets us all that close today.

That said, in the playoffs, it could be a different story, too. Our team, if healthy, has a ton of room to grow together.

 

[StevenOtero]

Seriously? You think New England beats us by three scores with a top 3 quarterback and wideout healthy? New England isn't that good. The 2007 Pats would've beat us 70-0.

New England is pretty darn good

Why not? All we needed was a competent quarterback and a reciever who can make some plays. You're telling me we wouldn't have be in the game with an All Pro quarterback and wide reciever? If anything Dallas would be the one winning 30-6 especially with how dominant Greg Hardy was.

New England wouldn't be stacking the box w/ 8 to 9 people. If they did Romo and Dez would've killed them. Running game would've had a lot more room and the defense would've been fresh.

Dallas more than likely wins easily.

 

[Idgit]

Kind of like how we stepped on necks last year.

Yes, they were impressive but I think having tape on them and getting some continuity on defense would make a Super Bowl a completely different game.

In fact - I think they would be in deep trouble.

Homer.

 

[movaughn88]

I'm not sure this game today has a significantly different outcome with Romo and Dez in the lineup. That NE team was better than we are, overall. Even at full strength. It definitely wasn't a coaching shortcoming, anyway. Though they also do have better coaches.

Idgit you are my boy, I respect your opinion. And you are right they are the best team in the league, at the least top 3. But with the way the defense started today, Romo would have blazed them.

One or two extended drives is more defense is more offense is...

Maybe he goes rogue and throws a pick, but at the very least they don't have 8-10 in the box with run blitzes and know that if they sniff out the clear set play like it's an nba last shot they don't win every down.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let me say that I don't think Weeden is that bad. But you can't win with him. Not this team. The guy.....he doesn't play like he has heart. He doesn't play like he has the will to win. He doesn't play like he even believes he can win. He seems to be a guy out there who's forced to show up because he's paid to.

He has tools. He has a arm. I get it. But i've seen enough. I don't think he has mentally what it takes to win in this league even at a .500 clip. Matt Cassel.......he's probably not any better than Weeden but you have to give this team something. And Cassel even if it was a few seasons has shown he can win.

 

[CyberB0b]

Maybe we'll get our wish and see later in the year. Our defense played great, but the Pats were still moving the ball. Our OL hasn't blocked really well in any game this season and--while they were better today--with Leary's play, that string continued. I believe the Pats would take out Dez and we'd have had to outscore them throwing to Witten and Williams. Even with Tony, I don't think that gets us all that close today.

That said, in the playoffs, it could be a different story, too. Our team, if healthy, has a ton of room to grow together.

What? I have to believe that Romo and Dez are capable of putting up more than 6 points of offense in an entire NFL game. If not, throw in the towel right now.

 

[Bullflop]

Most of the commentaters I've heard on TV (except for Simms) are calling for Cassel to replace Weeden after the bye. Of course, Simms mentioned the Giants as "we" instead of "they" when he was asked about the Giants' chances of turning their season around and competing for the playoffs.

Could this explain his preference to see Dallas sticking with Weeden, rather than allowing Cassel to take the reins after the bye? Seems to me it would likely benefit the Giants and their chances for continued succes if that were to happen. Is it possible he's understandably biased and has an agenda that he'd prefer to see for his old team? I do believe so -- just my two cents.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Idgit you are my boy, I respect your opinion. And you are right they are the best team in the league, at the least top 3. But with the way the defense started today, Romo would have blazed them.

One or two extended drives is more defense is more offense is...

Maybe he goes rogue and throws a pick, but at the very least they don't have 8-10 in the box with run blitzes and know that if they sniff out the clear set play like it's an nba last shot they don't win every down.

This.

Even when Romo starts slow, if you give him the ball that many times in the first, he's going to get you more than six in the first half. Scoring pump the D up and it's a whole different ball game.

 

[RunDMC]

Maybe we'll get our wish and see later in the year. Our defense played great, but the Pats were still moving the ball. Our OL hasn't blocked really well in any game this season and--while they were better today--with Leary's play, that string continued. I believe the Pats would take out Dez and we'd have had to outscore them throwing to Witten and Williams. Even with Tony, I don't think that gets us all that close today.

That said, in the playoffs, it could be a different story, too. Our team, if healthy, has a ton of room to grow together.

Yeah New England moved the ball, but Dallas got a couple of big stops early that the offense couldn't take advantage of. If Romo and Dez are out there there's no reason to think they wouldn't have at least put up 10 points on the Pats. Their defense isn't good. They just benefited from playing against the worst quarterback in the league and that allowed them to shut down the run game. The offensive line's problem is there is too many guys to block because of the atrocity that is Brandon Weeden. Dez even if you double him can take two guys out of the box. You can't double Witten as much. Opens up things underneath for Cole and teams can't play as much as single high safety and Terrance can work the middle of the field like he's shown he can when Dez is opposite.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Not at all. Our schedule gets much lighter going from here. And the defense was two steps better this week than it had been the last two. This NE offense was really really good. We'll get Gregory back, and Dez back soon. And a bunch of 2-win teams like ours coming up here after the bye.

NFL seasons are long. Anybody writing a 2-3 team off in week 5 is overreacting.

Yeah, but Seattle isn't your typical 2-3 team (following the Gnats). Dallas needs to move into 'full on' plan C... plan B was an utter failure.

 

[Zman5]

I'm not sure this game today has a significantly different outcome with Romo and Dez in the lineup. That NE team was better than we are, overall. Even at full strength. It definitely wasn't a coaching shortcoming, anyway. Though they also do have better coaches.

I think JG can spit in your face and you'll find reasons to say good things about him.

 

[Zman5]

People don't realize how hard our December schedule is. We better win some games before Romo gets back because I doubt we can go undefeated in our last 6 games.

 

[big dog cowboy]

With a legit offense we win that game.

No question it would have been a completely different game. I think we win also.

 

[ryanbabs]

I'm not sure this game today has a significantly different outcome with Romo and Dez in the lineup. That NE team was better than we are, overall. Even at full strength. It definitely wasn't a coaching shortcoming, anyway. Though they also do have better coaches.

Oh really? I maintain my stance that the Cowboys would be undefeated with everyone healthy. I was at the game and it's amazing to see how the Pats stacked the box and how bad Weeden really is. Never looks downfield. You can see it on TV but it's much worse and more obvious seeing it in person. No way that box is stacked with our stars in there. Game changers...

 

[DandyDon1722]

Homer.

I know I know - I also should've specified that we stepped on necks offensively last year.

But I'll tell you what I learned from today's first quarter. If we can hang around and be in the mix in December we are going to be tough to beat and nobody is gonna want to play us.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Thread should be about the people who decided to bring him back after not learning our lesson in the Arizona game last year. Total incompetency from this organization

I absolutely agree here. I'm still completely lost to why the coaching staff and FO likes Weeden. He is not a winner and will never will be.

 

[TimHortons]

I'm not sure this game today has a significantly different outcome with Romo and Dez in the lineup. That NE team was better than we are, overall. Even at full strength. It definitely wasn't a coaching shortcoming, anyway. Though they also do have better coaches.

With Romo and Dez we surely would have scored more than 6 points in the first half, when the defense was creating consecutive 3&outs. We may not have won the game, but it definitely would have been closer, not to mention that getting more first downs would have kept the defense fresher rather than going 3 & out and sending the defense back on the field