The win now/best chance trap

[blindzebra]

We find our team in a bad situation...we have an owner, that history shows, will do whatever it takes to win a championship. That is great, but it also carries a big negative too, you have to know when you need to blow things up and start from scratch.

We have a coach that is too old to lose, who will hold dearly to that "best chance to win" philosophy to the bitter end.

We never fully dismantled the team Parcells inherited, we tore up and duct taped as we kept trying to win now...that is a very difficult thing to do...it requires youth to play like veterans, vets to play perfect football, and coaches to make in game changes that work...and guess what?

That isn't working.

We have a young and talent deep defense, that gives hope for our future with an offense that shoots itself in the foot, led by a QB that has no long term value, who has a career of wilting when the heat is on.

It's time to turn the team completely over to youth, take our lumps and not run the risk of having this quarterbacking albatross tied around our neck, that will ultimately keeps what ground we have gained from getting us to the promised land for years to come.

Let's see what Romo has.

Make that big move at QB with actual knowledge in hand and not based on, "You should see this kid in practice." We need to know what needs to be done next offseason.

If not, we will be re-living that heartache from yesterday for years to come.

 

[gbrittain]

Excellent point.

The only reason to continue with Bledsoe at the QB position is if you plan on him being QB next year as well.

If that is the plan, I think I will be sick...literally.

If Romo is the guy for next year, what better way to get off to a good start next year than to let him get real experience this year.

 

[Stautner]

We never dismantled the team Parcells inherited?

Have you ever taken a look at the number of players on the roster now that were on the roster when Parcells took over ..... it's VERY few.

This team was built by Parcells and all the talk about starting from scratch means nothing - the only real issue in your post was about the starting QB.

And I agree with you on that point - I think we have to move on and give Romo a shot. The only thing regarding Romo that we may disagree on is that I don't necessarily think we'll take any more lumps than we already are - and we may take fewer.

 

[peplaw06]

We never dismantled the team Parcells inherited?

Have you ever taken a look at the number of players on the roster now that were on the roster when Parcells took over ..... it's VERY few.

 

[Da Hammer]

It's Romo time, no matter if he struggles. every young QB struggles but he has a chance to get better with every game while Bledslow continues to make constantly mistakes that rookies make so whats the difference if Romo is in there instead of him. At least with romo we have the potential to have a pretty good QB with him in the future

 

[Cbz40]

It's Romo time, no matter if he struggles. every young QB struggles but he has a chance to get better with every game while Bledslow continues to make constantly mistakes that rookies make so whats the difference if Romo is in there instead of him. At least with romo we have the potential to have a pretty good QB with him in the future

Maybe just as important, we will have a good idea if he is or isn't the QB of the future or.


We do know Romo can buy some time in the pocket and escape the rush.

 

[blindzebra]

We never dismantled the team Parcells inherited?

Have you ever taken a look at the number of players on the roster now that were on the roster when Parcells took over ..... it's VERY few.

This team was built by Parcells and all the talk about starting from scratch means nothing - the only real issue in your post was about the starting QB.

And I agree with you on that point - I think we have to move on and give Romo a shot. The only thing regarding Romo that we may disagree on is that I don't necessarily think we'll take any more lumps than we already are - and we may take fewer.

Let me clear things up, what I meant was a complete dismantling at first.

We had very little roster churning that first year, it took until year 3 for him to bit the bullet on his 3-4, and we still haven't made a big move on offense to get younger.

We are locked in a cycle of aging, crappy castoffs from other teams at QB, that will only keep us from winning.

We remodeled, but we keep finding problems, because we didn't rebuild on both sides of the ball, because we wanted to win.

 

[Stautner]

Let me clear things up, what I meant was a complete dismantling at first.

We had very little roster churning that first year, it took until year 3 for him to bit the bullet on his 3-4, and we still haven't made a big move on offense to get younger.

We are locked in a cycle of aging, crappy castoffs from other teams at QB, that will only keep us from winning.

We remodeled, but we keep finding problems, because we didn't rebuild on both sides of the ball, because we wanted to win.

Did you really expect him to fire everybody and start from scratch like an expansion team?

Especially a guy like Parcells who values veteran leadership?

No one throws it ALL away and starts from scratch, and LOTS of teams are successful addressing only the areas of need.

 

[StarAmongStars]

We find our team in a bad situation...we have an owner, that history shows, will do whatever it takes to win a championship. That is great, but it also carries a big negative too, you have to know when you need to blow things up and start from scratch.

We have a coach that is too old to lose, who will hold dearly to that "best chance to win" philosophy to the bitter end.

We never fully dismantled the team Parcells inherited, we tore up and duct taped as we kept trying to win now...that is a very difficult thing to do...it requires youth to play like veterans, vets to play perfect football, and coaches to make in game changes that work...and guess what?

That isn't working.

We have a young and talent deep defense, that gives hope for our future with an offense that shoots itself in the foot, led by a QB that has no long term value, who has a career of wilting when the heat is on.

It's time to turn the team completely over to youth, take our lumps and not run the risk of having this quarterbacking albatross tied around our neck, that will ultimately keeps what ground we have gained from getting us to the promised land for years to come.

Let's see what Romo has.

Make that big move at QB with actual knowledge in hand and not based on, "You should see this kid in practice." We need to know what needs to be done next offseason.

If not, we will be re-living that heartache from yesterday for years to come.

Dude our defense sucks, especially our secondary. And if we are so 'talented' than why is our 1st round pick riding the bench? Because he's a bust and we should have never drafted him that's why. We stilll have holes in our secondary but refused to sign any high profile FA's that could have easily remedied the problem.

As for the QB situation you people need to understand that Bledsoe is our guy and Parcells made that perfectly clear during the press conference. Romo would have been killed yesterday against Philly and isn't half the QB Bledsoe is. Parcells knows what he's doing and knows that Bledsoe is the guy to take us deep into the playoffs.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good post, BZ. But as you suggest, it won't change as long as Parcells is here. We saw that when he played out the string with Vinny in 2004.

I guess the only good news is that except for the O-line, we really only have to find a good QB... The defense, RBs, and TEs should be solid.

Of course, finding a good QB is so hard to do...

 

[StarAmongStars]

Good post, BZ. But as you suggest, it won't change as long as Parcells is here. We saw that when he played out the string with Vinny in 2004.

I guess the only good news is that except for the O-line, we really only have to find a good QB... The defense, RBs, and TEs should be solid.

Of course, finding a good QB is so hard to do...

We have a good QB...our problems right now our playcalling on both sides of the ball.....our defense IS a liability

 

[blindzebra]

Did you really expect him to fire everybody and start from scratch like an expansion team?

Especially a guy like Parcells who values veteran leadership?

No one throws it ALL away and starts from scratch, and LOTS of teams are successful addressing only the areas of need.

We were a bad team, so yes we needed to blow it up out of the gate. We didn't and we smoke and mirrored our way to 10-6, so we didn't make any big changes the next year either.

 

[chinch]

our team was pretty much blown up except for QB.

that's the good news.

tuna has foolishly and stubbornly stuck with QC/Hutch (wasted a year 1 and 2) then emergancy use of Vinny (year 2) then Drew (year 3 +4).

it's time we draft a QB 1st round that is ready to play week-1 2007...with or without tuna as coach. we have most of the other parts in place.

drew is making DUMB plays and turnovers this year worse than the most inept rookie who every started in the NFL. tuna would never admit that.

 

[Stautner]

We have a good QB...our problems right now our playcalling on both sides of the ball.....our defense IS a liability

I know I know - the play calling is responsible for losses but has nothing to do with wins.

And, player execution is responsible for wins but has nothing to do with losses.

 

[Sarge]

We find our team in a bad situation...we have an owner, that history shows, will do whatever it takes to win a championship. That is great, but it also carries a big negative too, you have to know when you need to blow things up and start from scratch.

We have a coach that is too old to lose, who will hold dearly to that "best chance to win" philosophy to the bitter end.

We never fully dismantled the team Parcells inherited, we tore up and duct taped as we kept trying to win now...that is a very difficult thing to do...it requires youth to play like veterans, vets to play perfect football, and coaches to make in game changes that work...and guess what?

That isn't working.

We have a young and talent deep defense, that gives hope for our future with an offense that shoots itself in the foot, led by a QB that has no long term value, who has a career of wilting when the heat is on.

It's time to turn the team completely over to youth, take our lumps and not run the risk of having this quarterbacking albatross tied around our neck, that will ultimately keeps what ground we have gained from getting us to the promised land for years to come.

Let's see what Romo has.

Make that big move at QB with actual knowledge in hand and not based on, "You should see this kid in practice." We need to know what needs to be done next offseason.

If not, we will be re-living that heartache from yesterday for years to come.

This has been my EXACT thoughts since BP's arrival.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

We find our team in a bad situation...we have an owner, that history shows, will do whatever it takes to win a championship. That is great, but it also carries a big negative too, you have to know when you need to blow things up and start from scratch.

We have a coach that is too old to lose, who will hold dearly to that "best chance to win" philosophy to the bitter end.

We never fully dismantled the team Parcells inherited, we tore up and duct taped as we kept trying to win now...that is a very difficult thing to do...it requires youth to play like veterans, vets to play perfect football, and coaches to make in game changes that work...and guess what?

That isn't working.

We have a young and talent deep defense, that gives hope for our future with an offense that shoots itself in the foot, led by a QB that has no long term value, who has a career of wilting when the heat is on.

It's time to turn the team completely over to youth, take our lumps and not run the risk of having this quarterbacking albatross tied around our neck, that will ultimately keeps what ground we have gained from getting us to the promised land for years to come.

Let's see what Romo has.

Make that big move at QB with actual knowledge in hand and not based on, "You should see this kid in practice." We need to know what needs to be done next offseason.

If not, we will be re-living that heartache from yesterday for years to come.

Wow, what an excellent point. ...I guess this team is made up from 4 players from BEFORE BP got here, and a **** load of duct tape.

2-2, and you're ready to throw an unknow QB out there? I think I would wait a bit longer for that. Bledsoe has had 2 good games, and 2 bad ones. Thats why we are 2-2. You really think Romo would be doing so much?

 

[blindzebra]

Wow, what an excellent point. ...I guess this team is made up from 4 players from BEFORE BP got here, and a **** load of duct tape.

2-2, and you're ready to throw an unknow QB out there? I think I would wait a bit longer for that. Bledsoe has had 2 good games, and 2 bad ones. Thats why we are 2-2. You really think Romo would be doing so much?

Someone needs to maybe read the entire thread before making smart arse comments.

Just where have the two good games been?

 

[StarAmongStars]

Someone needs to maybe read the entire thread before making smart arse comments.

Just where have the two good games been?

Bledsoe has had a lot of good games since being a cowboy....do you honestly think we would have been 9-7 last year without him? He is only going to get better this year too as we continue to gel as an offense.

He looked dam good against the Commanders depsite the receivers dropping 11 perfectly thrown passes or his numbers would have been gaudy.....he was a non factor pretty much the whole second half against the titans because two early TD passes put the game away in the first half.

 

[gbrittain]

Bledsoe has had a lot of good games since being a cowboy....do you honestly think we would have been 9-7 last year without him? He is only going to get better this year too as we continue to gel as an offense.

He looked dam good against the Commanders depsite the receivers dropping 11 perfectly thrown passes or his numbers would have been gaudy.....he was a non factor pretty much the whole second half against the titans because two early TD passes put the game away in the first half.

And the Commanders are proving how good they really are...

 

[Stautner]

Bledsoe has had a lot of good games since being a cowboy....do you honestly think we would have been 9-7 last year without him? He is only going to get better this year too as we continue to gel as an offense.

He looked dam good against the Commanders depsite the receivers dropping 11 perfectly thrown passes or his numbers would have been gaudy.....he was a non factor pretty much the whole second half against the titans because two early TD passes put the game away in the first half.

Bledsoe has had a fair amount of good games as a Cowboy, but he has also shown to be very suceptible to very poor games when the defense gets pressure on him.

So, the bottom line is that as long as we are successful providing protection and are playing teams with clearly inferior talent then Bledsoe will do very well for us.

But what if we need to defeat teams that pressure the QB and/or have talent that is equal to or somewhat superior to ours ..... which obviously we will have to if we hope to ger over the hump and be true championship contenders .......?