The Wulf Den: Defining the Process

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stasheroo;5100360 said:
I'm not the biggest Jerry or Garrett defender, but I have seen for myself that this team's draft success has a great deal to do with the involvement - or lack thereof - of the head coach.

Some of the best have come under Johnson, Parcells, and Garrett while the worst came under Switzer, Campo, and Phillips.

And was Garrett the HC in 2010? No. But some people apparently want to give him credit for it. Even on defense, which is crazy.

Rest assured, if our team is a wreck this year, there will be people claiming that Jerry forced all this on Garrett when things were going fine. In other words, if it's good, it's Garrett, if it's bad it's Jerry.

Kind of like the people who claim "Garrett is doing a great job of building this team" but then turn around and claim "Jerry won't give Garrett an O-line." Just be consistent.
 

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stasheroo;5100349 said:
Mostly because I just don't think the money is there.

Given big contracts we already have, coupled with big contracts we have to dole out to keep excellent players like Lee, Bailey, Carter, Bryant, Tyron Smith and others, I don't think we can afford a deal for Spencer at around $8 million per year.

You may be right, and they could be thinking that they'll let him play it out and then see if Crawford can step in as the starter next year. Only time will tell.
 

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Chocolate Lab;5100350 said:
Pretty hilarious to give the OC credit for Sean Lee, Lissemore, and Church.

Also to act like all these changes were Garrett's doing when there's so much evidence to the contrary. Jerry made these changes, for better or worse. (Probably better.)

If you'll note, I actually indicated that Garrett can't get all of the credit for that year. But it was a not-so-well-kept secret that Garrett was looked at as the future HC, so if you think he didn't have some input, you're deluding yourself.

And as I pointed out, if you want to point to any conspiracy, you can find an "expert" to feed the fire. So if you want to buy into the tired old "Jerry's doing everything and Garrett's got no power" crap, more power to you. I prefer the truth.
 

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burmafrd;5100364 said:
wrong on Arkin- when you spend a 4th on a SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER you are expecting more.

I am hoping Parnell takes the job and we can boot Free next year; we cannot trust Free to be consistent.

Wrong. When you take a player in the 4th round from a small school, you are doing so because of their perceived potential, and you go into it expecting it to take a while for them to make the leap. He didn't make those strides last year, which was disappointing for everyone, and this will be his last chance to do so. If he still hasn't done enough to make the roster this year, he'll be gone, and we can talk about whether or not he's a bust or just that they had the wrong perception of his potential. If he makes the squad, even for depth, then he's not a bust.
 

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Chocolate Lab;5100385 said:
Rest assured, if our team is a wreck this year, there will be people claiming that Jerry forced all this on Garrett when things were going fine. In other words, if it's good, it's Garrett, if it's bad it's Jerry.

Kind of like the people who claim "Garrett is doing a great job of building this team" but then turn around and claim "Jerry won't give Garrett an O-line." Just be consistent.

And if this is what you think my position is, you are mistaken. I've seen plenty of good and bad from both Jerry and Jason to give either one all of the credit or all of the blame.

My contention is that the team--and both Jerry and Jason--are moving closer to where they should be to do things positively. Despite what the talking heads want to conjure, the fact is that the recent drafts have been much better. A part of that might be Jerry getting better at it, or that he's paying more attention to the input he's getting from others. There are still things he does that make us scratch our collective heads, but he's at least moving in the right direction, IMHO. As for Jason, he is putting his stamp on this roster, as well as on the organization, and at least a part of that is redefining what his role needs to be in order to be most effective as a head coach. He'll still make some mistakes, to be certain, but the process he's going through is, again, one that is going in the right direction.
 

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Wulfman;5100405 said:
Wrong. When you take a player in the 4th round from a small school, you are doing so because of their perceived potential, and you go into it expecting it to take a while for them to make the leap. He didn't make those strides last year, which was disappointing for everyone, and this will be his last chance to do so. If he still hasn't done enough to make the roster this year, he'll be gone, and we can talk about whether or not he's a bust or just that they had the wrong perception of his potential. If he makes the squad, even for depth, then he's not a bust.

he has shown NOTHING for two years. So he is a bust. And as depth- from a small school- yes that is a bust as well.
 

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You are not alone. But then, no one has seen him play since last year's camp because he was injured, so I'm not really sure what anyone is basing that opinion on. The reports I heard coming out of OTAs and mini-camp about him were positive.

I don't think McSurdy's skill set fits a 3-4 defense, unless he is playing defensive end.
 

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burmafrd;5100412 said:
he has shown NOTHING for two years. So he is a bust. And as depth- from a small school- yes that is a bust as well.

You're a tough man to please if you expect day three draft picks from small schools to be starting in less than three years. Either that or unreasonable. :rolleyes:
 

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Verdict;5100429 said:
I meant 4-3.

Honestly, Verdict, at less than 250 lbs., I don't think he would hold up at DE at all. He'll either play LB (likely in the middle backing up Lee) or not at all in this scheme. As the 7th LB on the roster, though, if he was active on gameday, it would be for special teams play, not to play in the regular defensive scheme, IMHO. And if he can, indeed, come in to play FB here and there in short yardage situations, even better.
 

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Wulfman;5100431 said:
You're a tough man to please if you expect day three draft picks from small schools to be starting in less than three years. Either that or unreasonable. :rolleyes:

NO you have low standards. I expect that someone from such a small school gets a 4th rd pick- you seem to think that is acceptable to be a back up.

I expect a 4th rd pick to push to be a starter in 2 years. THREE at the absolute most.

If you cannot pick up enough strength under the GOD WOICIK in two years to challenge for playing time then you most likely never will.

And I would never expect a 4th rd pick to top out as a backup unless the guy he is backing up is a pro bowl or that level player. And when you look at what we have had at guard and this is a guy who HAS NEVER BEEN ACTIVATED. Think on that

Not sure why you think 4th rd picks for a guard from a small school is a throw away pick. Now if he was from say Oklahoma or such I would expect more sooner. But to get a 4th rd pick playing against such sad competition he must have flashed starter talent or he NEVER should have been picked
 

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JG shouldn't get credit for a draft process that brought good players in in 2010, obviously. I do think he gets credit for them developing under his watch, though. Even if they play on the defensive side of the ball. Just my two cents.

As always, Wulf, thanks for the detailed OP.

On Arkin, I think he needs to show dramatic improvement in camp this season to make the roster. If I'm a betting man, I'm betting he doesn't. That said, teams fail on mid-round picks all the time, so I don't think it's the end of the world, either. If we hit on Frederick and Leary or Parnell, I'll be pretty happy, overall, with the state of the OL.
 

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All draft picks are rolls of the dice. Some just have harder numbers to hit. Arkin has the athleticism to be the kind of interior lineman we're looking for. He just needs the techniques, experience, and strength to play in the NFL. Apparently he's done a good bit on the strength problem. He needs to get snaps to get the rest down and to allow for proper evaluation.

No one expected this guy to start for a year or so. So this is the year for him to shine or he will be shelved. Not getting into the semantics of what is a bust or not as it leads no where. It will be disappointing if he doesn't pan out but it's not the same as whiffing on a day one or two pick.

The current drafting process in Dallas seems to be winning against the odds. Hopefully that will continue.
 

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burmafrd;5100516 said:
NO you have low standards. I expect that someone from such a small school gets a 4th rd pick- you seem to think that is acceptable to be a back up.

I expect a 4th rd pick to push to be a starter in 2 years. THREE at the absolute most.

If you cannot pick up enough strength under the GOD WOICIK in two years to challenge for playing time then you most likely never will.

And I would never expect a 4th rd pick to top out as a backup unless the guy he is backing up is a pro bowl or that level player. And when you look at what we have had at guard and this is a guy who HAS NEVER BEEN ACTIVATED. Think on that

Not sure why you think 4th rd picks for a guard from a small school is a throw away pick. Now if he was from say Oklahoma or such I would expect more sooner. But to get a 4th rd pick playing against such sad competition he must have flashed starter talent or he NEVER should have been picked
Go fill out an application already.
 

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Thanks Wulf!
Really good read.

I agree on your take regarding Garrett's work-in-progress.
I also think your vision for how Williams, Harris, and Austin will be used is also realistic.
 

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The Wulf Den: Defining the Process​


Head Coach Jason Garrett is infamous for his ability to dance around questions he doesn’t want to answer, and for providing answers that appear, on the surface, as nothing more than a collection of clichés. Starting QB Tony Romo does this as well, to a lesser extent, but Garrett has made it into an art form.

For example, let’s say a media member asks, “What kind of player are you looking for, coach?” Or maybe they ask, “What did you like about this guy you signed or drafted?” We all know at least part of the answer will be that he was the “right kind of guy.”

Or let’s say a media person says, “Coach, how is the new defense looking and will Player X be able to step up this season to make a bigger impact?” At some point in his answer, Garrett is going to say that they are just trying to improve every day, and they have a long way to go.

And what is the most commonly used cliché, you ask? That would be referring to the game plan, roster moves, play installation, or just about anything else in terms of “the process.” It’s all a process, and every day and every decision somehow fits into that process.

Now there’s nothing wrong with that mindset. In fact, I think it’s a good one, and an expansion on the old “one game at a time” mentality. The problem for the media and for us as fans, though, is that we don’t know what Garrett envisions as the ultimate goal for the team. Oh sure, you could just say it’s to win a Super Bowl, or even more than one, and let it go at that. But to do so is actually dismissing the idea altogether. After all, winning the Super Bowl is where EVERY team in the league wants to be. No, to understand that goal is not to say you want a team who is capable of competing for and winning a Super Bowl every year, but rather to describe what that team looks like in regards to roster composition, scheme, preparation, and attitude. I feel pretty certain that when Garrett talks about “the process” in regards to this team, he has an image in his mind of exactly how he thinks this team should function, what the roster should look like, and what the perception of the team should be from those within and outside of the organization, as well as what kind of players—and men—that he will need to pull it off.

Fans want to know what that image looks like, but we can’t read Garrett’s mind, and he’s not exactly bursting at the seams to reveal anything. If we look at the kinds of moves that have been made, however, we may get a pretty fair idea of where Garrett’s heading. After all, the whole “who will the play-caller be” drama—a complete and utter waste of time, in my humble opinion—ultimately was easy enough to figure out simply by watching the players and coaches on the field. So with that said, let’s take a look at just what has happened to the Dallas Cowboys since Garrett took over to see if we can get at least a glimpse of where “the process” is taking us.

Players and Staff

Depending on what conspiracy you’re trying to prove, you can find some “expert” who will tell you exactly what you’re looking to hear in regards to who is pulling the trigger on the draft picks and free agency in Dallas. I just remember something that was said when Garrett took over as the head coach in 2010. Owner and General Manager Jerry Jones said that there would be no player on the roster that Garrett didn’t want there, and that Garrett would have the final say. And while I know as well as you do that Jerry will get his two cents in, and that he can turn a phrase as well as anyone, I’ve never seen him come straight out and lie about something in regards to this team. So while we know things like free agency, the draft, and signing undrafted players are a group effort, the ultimate responsibility falls on Garrett. As such, the credit or blame for those choices should likewise be considered his domain.

In 2010, Garrett wasn’t the head coach at the beginning of the season, and the Cowboys had high hopes after coming off of a 2009 season that saw them win the NFC East and their first playoff game since 1996. At midseason, however, they were 1-7 and Romo was out for the season with a broken clavicle. Understandably, the Cowboys fired Head Coach Wade Phillips, and the Jason Garrett era began.

Because Garrett wasn’t the head coach at the beginning of the season, we can’t really give him full credit for the draft picks made that year. However, it’s a fairly well-documented fact that Wade Phillips didn’t exert much influence in the war room, and many fans and media personalities were speculating that Garrett was going to be the future coach when Phillips was done. I doubt anyone thought it would be that season, but I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to think that Garrett did have some significant input on who was drafted that year. The players to come out of that draft and stick around to be contributors today are WR Dez Bryant, LB Sean Lee, and DT Sean Lissemore. Following the draft, they brought in a number of undrafted rookies who are still on the roster, including C Phil Costa, S Barry Church, and S Danny McCray. They also used a 7th round supplemental pick on NT Josh Brent. Depending on whether or not first-round draft pick Travis Frederick stays at center, and not counting Brent because of his legal situation, that means that now, three years later, that draft season brought in as many as four starters, a rotational D-lineman, and a special teams ace. The Cowboys took heat about whether or not Dez was mature enough and about Lee’s injury history. But three years later, I think the Cowboys have proven themselves right.

In 2011, the Cowboys were picking in the top 10 of the draft, and they made sure to lock up a top-10 talent by taking OT Tyron Smith, then repeated the process from the previous year, taking an interior LB with injury concerns in the second round in North Carolina’s Bruce Carter. Also still on the roster today are RB DeMarco Murray, G David Arkin, and WR Dwayne Harris. After the draft, the Cowboys brought in C/G Kevin Kowalski, LB Alex Albright, K Dan Bailey, P Chris Jones, and RB Phillip Tanner. Training camp will ultimately determine if some of these guys are on the roster at the beginning of the season, but as of right now, that’s another five starters, a #3 receiver, a utility back-up LB and DE, two young O-linemen fighting for a roster spot, and a back-up RB who looks to be improved from a year ago.

Last year, the Cowboys moved up to take CB Mo Claiborne in the first round, using their second round pick to do so. The other additions in the draft were DE Tyrone Crawford, LB Kyle Wilber, S Matt Johnson, WR Danny Coale, TE James Hanna, and LB Caleb McSurdy. All are currently on the roster with a chance to make the team and contribute this season. Following the draft, the Cowboys brought in G Ron Leary, WR Cole Beasley, and RB Lance Dunbar. So there’s another starter, a number of primary back-ups (including two at defensive end, a tight end, and a safety), two wide receivers who will battle for a depth position, a candidate for the third down RB, a back-up ILB, and an O-lineman fighting for a starting job.

Add in this year’s draft class, as well as the undrafted rookies that were brought in, and fully half of the roster on week one could be drafted players and undrafted free agents brought in during the Garrett era. A majority of those players are not only highly skilled players, but they are high quality individuals who were team captains, award winners, and are self-motivated and dedicated in the weight room. Add in the kind of low-pay, high-effort veterans the team is bringing in via free agency like S Will Allen, TE Dante Rosario, and LB Justin Durant, as well as what players they are choosing to keep and which free agents to let go, and you begin to get a glimpse of what kind of personnel Garrett wants on this team.

Heck, even when they have chosen to spend money on a high dollar free agent—an event much less common in recent years—the personal characteristics have been there. Consider CB Brandon Carr, who was signed last year to a 5-year, $50.1 million free agent contract. He’s a small school guy who was taken in the fifth round by Kansas City and then earned his way not only to a starting job, but into being one of the best CBs available on the free agent market. His pedigree in Division II Grand Valley State? Carr was only a member of the back-to-back NCAA Division II national championship teams, and was named the Defensive Back of the Year for his senior season. So while all of the draftees and free agents may not be perfect examples of the “right kinds of guys” who “go about things the right way” and “love football” as Garrett so frequently says, the vast majority of them are.

As for the staff, don’t think they’ve been left out of the purge and reshaping that Garrett is doing. This year, more than ever before, Garrett went out and got guys for his staff that he had worked with and played for previously. As such, I think this will likely be the most accurate representation of what Garrett really wants from his staff. How big of a shift has it been? Let’s put it into perspective. Counting Garrett, there were 17 coaches and strength and conditioning personnel on the staff in 2010. Today, there are 21 staff members. Of those 21 personnel, there are exactly three aside from Garret who were here in 2010. That’s right, three: QB Coach Wade Wilson, TE Coach Wes Phillips (was a Quality Control/Offensive Assistant in 2010), and Offensive Quality Control/Wide Receivers Keith O’Quinn. If you think that’s not intentional on Garrett’s part, you’re either in denial or you’re not paying attention.

The fact is, Jerry Jones told Garrett that this was his team, and that he would give him the time and resources to make it so. It is becoming more and more obvious to me that Garrett heard Jerry loud and clear…and is running with it. He’s reshaping the roster, the staff, the scheme, and, yes, the process, to be a reflection of himself and what he thinks is necessary to not only win, but to properly represent what it means to be the Dallas Cowboys. The media can try to fan the conspiracy theories until they’re all blue in the face, and the naysayers can continue to rant and complain about what is done or how it’s accomplished. But it is, in fact, a process that’s heading in the right direction. And while back-to-back 8-8 seasons isn’t good enough for us, it’s clearly not good enough for Garrett either.

The Rest of the Story

The process continues. I know that’s not the clear-cut image that most fans are looking for, but it’s the reality. The Cowboys have now completed their OTAs and their mini-camp, and will kick-off their training camp on July 21st in Oxnard, California. In the meantime, Garrett and his staff will review everything that they’ve seen on the field and in the meeting rooms. They will break down film as well as talk about what they have (and haven’t) seen from the fringe roster players, and who they think has a chance of breaking out and making the 53-man roster. They will talk about the installation of the offensive and defensive schemes, and how much they still have to accomplish when training camp rolls around. And they likely will make a few personnel moves as a result of those discussions, letting players go that they don’t think fit the mold Garrett is looking for and bringing in others that have already been on their radar.

As we look forward to training camp, there are going to be some very interesting battles to watch, and some position questions that will only be answered on the field. But based on what we’ve seen and heard so far, here’s the way I’m currently leaning for the 53-man roster, as well as some camp battles to watch.

QB (2) – Romo and Orton: I know the Cowboys put in a waiver claim for QB Mike Kafka, but I don’t think that necessarily means that they are planning to keep three QBs on the roster. Romo’s back surgery was much ado about nothing, in my opinion, and Orton was so rusty from a lack of playing time last year that he quite honestly needed the work he got in the OTAs and mini-camp. Barring an injury, I can’t see them going with more than two guys at this position.

RB (3) – Murray, Randle, and Dunbar: Murray and Randle are going to make the roster, so the real battle will be for the #3 position or to try to force the Cowboys to keep a fourth RB on the roster. After a disappointing season last year, Phillip Tanner looked to be in much better shape, and it showed on the field with some very positive plays. A lot of people, myself included, had all but written him off when Randle was drafted. It appears now that he will not go quietly, if he goes at all. Both Dunbar and Tanner will also get pushed by undrafted rookie Kendial Lawrence, who is very explosive. I still think Dunbar gets the #3 job because of his ability to also contribute on special teams, but there could be a hard decision to make about potentially keeping a fourth RB at the end of camp.

FB (0) – Vickers is the only FB on the roster at the moment, and he’s not healthy. Based on the number of TEs on the roster and the lack of another FB to split reps, and I think he will be released as soon as he is healthy enough to pass a physical. They won’t release him until then, in all likelihood, in order to avoid paying him an injury settlement.

TE (4) – Witten, Hanna, Escobar, and Rosario: While there is no pure blocking TE in this group, any of these guys can do a serviceable enough job when called upon, and Rosario has also played some H-back and FB in the past. Keeping four guys at this position not only ensures that they’ll have the personnel to run the two and three TE sets that they want, but spells the end of the FB position in Dallas, IMHO.

WR (6) – Bryant, Austin, Williams, Harris, Beasley, and Coale: A lot of people have been surprised that Williams has gotten as many reps as he has thus far, especially considering the emergence of Harris last year as the third receiver. I haven’t been surprised, primarily because I never believed they were bringing Williams in to be the third receiver who plays the traditional slot. That is still Harris’ job, along with likely being the primary punt returner. No, the Cowboys drafted Williams because they wanted someone who could line up outside and go up the field, allowing them to use Miles Austin inside where he is a mismatch nightmare for opposing defenses, as well as to provide injury protection in the event that either of the starters goes down. As such, he needs to be on the field and ready to step in, and that only happens with experience. He started a little shaky, but improved significantly as time went on. The Cowboys may opt to only keep five receivers on the roster, but I’ll be surprised if that’s the case. If they do, Coale and Beasley will have to fight it out with veteran Anthony Armstrong and undrafted Jared Green. Again, a lot of people have written Coale off because he was out last year. But anyone who sleeps on this young man is making a big mistake, assuming he gets to training camp fully healed and ready to go—something that looks more and more likely. I’ve heard it suggested that they place him on PUP to begin camp, thus giving them the option of “stashing” him away until as late as mid-season. But I think if he’s ready to go, Garrett will throw him in there to compete.

OL (9) – Smith, Free, Parnell, Bernadeau, Frederick, Costa, Leary, Cook, and Arkin: It pains me to no end to include Arkin here instead of Kowalski, simply because I’ve been a big Kowalski supporter since he was brought in. But he has been moved to G exclusively this offseason, and I think that works against him. Also, let’s give some credit to Arkin, who has been everyone’s whipping boy for the past two years. Everyone knew that he wasn’t anywhere near strong enough when he came into the league, and many, myself included, were disappointed when he had not made more significant strides last year. It appears, however, that he has continued to work, and he got a lot of work in the OTAs and mini-camp opposite Leary (and ahead of Kowalski). Of course, Kowalski could potentially make the roster in place of Cook. But Cook restructured his contract to help the Cowboys’ cap situation, and has the flexibility to play all five O-line positions. Of course, he could be more expendable if the Cowboys decide to keep a fourth pure OT, like Darrion Weems. At this point, though, I think it more likely that they go with Cook as an emergency guy and put an OT on the practice squad. Also, note that I do not have Nate Livings making the roster. He agreed to restructure his deal, but the Cowboys didn’t turn it in to the league office, and there are two factors working against him. First, he is currently injured…again…and it’s reportedly the same knee on which he previously had surgery. If that’s a sign of any kind of degenerative condition that will hobble him more and more going forward, that’s a big hit against keeping him. Second, his base salary is scheduled to jump to nearly $3.5 mil next season and I can’t see the Cowboys paying him that. It may look unlikely that they would do that because he has $6.2 mil in guaranteed money in his contract. But he got $4.5 mil of that last year in his signing bonus and base salary, so he’s only guaranteed another $1.5 mil. And since we are now past June 1st, they could release him and take a relatively small hit this year. Of course, the remainder would become a dead money hit next year, but it would still be less than he would cost them if he were still on the roster under his current contract numbers. If they think one of the younger, cheaper guards is ready to step in and start, I think Livings is in trouble.

DL (9) – Spencer, Ware, Ratliff, Crawford, Hatcher, Lissemore, Bass, Wilber, and Albright: I’m putting Albright here although I think he’ll end up competing with Durant for the starting SLB position. He ultimately has the size to play either that position or DE, and is the ideal kind of utility player to be active on gameday. He contributes on special teams and can play multiple positions. As for the rest of the players in this group, I think they’re going to be pretty set going into camp. Ware and Spencer will start, with Wilber and Crawford, respectively, backing them up on the outside, while Ratliff and Hatcher will start inside, backed up by Lissemore and Bass. The guy I have on the outside looking in right now is veteran DE Anthony Hargrove. He will ultimately benefit the most if Albright plays the SLB position, in my opinion, because I believe the Cowboys would like to carry 9 D-linemen for depth purposes.

LB (7) – Lee, Carter, Durant, Holloman, Magee, Sims, and McSurdy: Again, you could see Albright here, and if you do, it would likely be at the expense of one of these young back-ups, as I can’t see them keeping more than seven LBs on the roster in this defensive scheme. If Albright isn’t specifically used as the SLB in camp, Lee, Carter, and Durant will be your starters, with the rest scrambling for the remaining positions. Ernie Sims can play inside or outside on the weak side, giving him some flexibility that I think makes him likely to make the roster. Holloman makes the list initially for three reasons: he’s a draft pick, he showed some flashes of playmaking ability in the mini-camp, and he was targeted specifically by Special Teams Coordinator Rich Bisaccia. Magee makes the list because he was their most sought-after undrafted rookie, and was compensated as such. He’ll have to earn it, but he’s got a chip on his shoulder after not getting drafted, and is planning to learn all three LB positions and make a significant contribution on special teams. If he does, he’ll make the squad. As for the seventh LB position, I gave the nod to McSurdy initially because he was a draft pick last year. He’ll get a significant challenge from undrafted rookie Taylor “Tank” Reed, though, and whichever of them loses that battle may be a good candidate for the practice squad.

CB (5) – Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Webb, and Moore: Honestly, this might be the most straight-forward position to pick the players who will make the roster, aside from QB. Carr and Claiborne are your starters, Scandrick is your primary guy in the slot, Webb is a quality draft pick with playmaking ability who can contribute on special teams, and Sterling Moore not only showed up in some games last year, but also has the ability to play both corner and safety. Barring an injury, I don’t see them going in any other direction than this.

S (5) – Church, Allen, Johnson, Wilcox, and McCray: I’m feeling fairly certain that the Cowboys will keep five safeties, but I am not as certain who that fifth safety will be. Church and Allen will initially start with Wilcox and Johnson backing them up. That’s what they have done so far, and I see no reason to think it will change going into camp. This means the fifth safety would be purely a special teams position. On one hand, that seems to work in McCray’s favor, as he has been the Cowboys’ special teams captain and leading special teams tackler in the past. On the other hand, though, the Cowboys have to be thinking towards the future as well, and the fact is that McCray is counting $1.3 against the cap and will be an unrestricted free agent next season. Undrafted rookie Jakar Hamilton, on the other hand, is signed for just under $1.5 mil…over the next three years. He has shown up quite well so far, not only athletically, but with a nose for the ball. He can serve on special teams as well, both as a gunner and as a return man, so there’s a lot to consider with him. At this point, I’ll give the nod to McCray because of his experience…but it’s a very slight nod, since he’s working with a new Special Teams Coordinator. If McCray is the fifth safety, Hamilton is a very likely candidate for the practice squad. But McCray better not get injured, as I think Hamilton will eat his lunch and take his position if given the chance. And Hamilton might do it anyway if he picks things up quickly enough, as he appears to be a bit of a playmaker thus far. If they are rated anywhere near equal at the end of camp, I think Hamilton gets the spot.

ST (3) – Jones, Bailey, and Ladouceur: Re-signing Ladouceur was incredibly important, in my opinion, especially with both the punter and kicker being young guys entering their second seasons in the league. He is, by far, the best guy at this position for the Cowboys since Dale Hellestrae…and that’s not a name I invoke lightly. From all reports, both Jones and Bailey look like they’re ready for the season to start tomorrow. Jones shows no effects from last year’s injury, and Bailey has been booming 50-yard FGs with regularity. This trio might be as solid as any in the league.

So there you have it. The next step in “the process” is training camp, and I, for one, can hardly wait.

Cheers!

Epic read. Thank you.
 

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Great job! Well written, and a good analysis. There will be surprises, both cuts and keeps, and there will be injuries before the final 53, but this is a great starting point.

My view on Arkin is that the three-year rule applies. The team kept him on the active roster last year even though he was never activated on game day. I think that means they saw progress. But, this training camp will probably be his make-or-break time. If he isn't ready to seriously challenge for a starting job, he is probably history.
 

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Idgit;5100527 said:
JG shouldn't get credit for a draft process that brought good players in in 2010, obviously. I do think he gets credit for them developing under his watch, though. Even if they play on the defensive side of the ball. Just my two cents.

I agree with this.

I don't know how much input Garrett has into any individual draft pick although I suspect he carries more weight now as the HC than he did as the OC. It is a committee approach and there are multiple voices in the room.

We all focus on the draft pick itself. However, I think there has been a change in the scouting emphasis. Since we aren't privy to the details of what they are looking for it sounds like they do some kind of deeper analysis. Some of this stuff is statistical but some of it is background checks and character assessments searching out for RKGs. Or more specifically guys who love football and and are passionate above the game, students of the game and have great work ethics. Leaderships skills are a definite plus.

Now once the pick is made there is then the long road of making them into an NFL quality player. In case no one noticed, none of Dez, Lee or Lissemore were starting when Garrett took over. Dez couldn't be calmed down most days on the sideline, Lee wasn't really allowed to hardly play at all and Lissemore was basically warming the bench. Regardless of why it has happened, it is fairly evident that we have been doing a much better job since the second half of 2010 of finding young players and developing them. That statement applies both to the offensive and defensive sides of the football.

It but 2.5 years this football team's makeup has been drastically altered. If you look back to who the key players are on the team at what I consider to be the "27 starting players" which are 11 offensive starters, 11 defensive starters, #3 WR, #3 CB, LS, K and P. Those are the guys who make most of the plays for your team and see the bulk of the action. Right now I project that 18.5 of the starters for this year's time are new since Garrett took over. So in 2.5 years he has turned over more than 2/3 of the starters. It can even be conceivably more by the end of the year. What if it all turns out this way by the end of the year:

QB: Romo
RB: Murray
TE1: Witten
TE2: Escobar
WR1: Dez
WR2: Miles
WR3: TWill
LT: Tyron
LG: Leary
C: TFred
RG: Bern
RT: Parnell

DE: Ware
DT: Hatcher
DT: Crawford
DE: Spencer

OLB: Carter
MLB: Lee
OLB: Durant
CB1: Mo
CB2: Carr
CB3: Webb
SS: Church
FS: Johnson

LS: LP
K: Bailey
P: Jones

Under this scenario only 6 were starting under Wade or 22% and one of them was the long snapper. Projecting to next year with Spencer's probable departure and you would be down to 5.

Now it is one thing to turn over a roster but it is another to make it better, younger and cheaper. It is also another to do so without any extra draft choices or some bonanza of a trade. It is even more amazing to do so without cap dollars to spend because the previous coach had a vet team full of a lot of overpaid vets who cost the new guy lots of dead money that he has had to wade through (pardon the pun).

So I think Garrett has done an incredible job of fostering a team with lots of active competition and roster turnover where younger players get lot of teaching and coaching and the opportunity to unseat the vet ahead of them if they are almost as good as them. They don't have to definitively outplay them but just get close to them. If you get there you can project by the end of a year of playing the kid will be better than the vet would have been. This is the kind of change a coach has to be willing to accept. BP accepted it years ago before there was a cap and it is now more true than ever.

Wade could never lead a team in the salary cap era. He is a softy and he likes his vets. He does his best work under a disciplinarian of a HC who keeps everything organized and structured and comes down on the players when someone needs to. He is a great DC but he is not a great organizational leader or manager. DC is where he excels and HC is where he goes to get fired. Hopefully he learned his lesson the 4th time around.
 

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Great detailed write-up Wulf. Thanks, these help pass the endless time until training camp.

As someone who liked the Arkin pick at the time, I still hold out some hope for him. But if Leary gets a starting job and proves to be solid, that'd take some of the sting for me out of the swing-and-a-miss on a 4th round pick if Arkin doesn't pan out. Having a UDFA ready to start in his second year would be sweet and the kind of good fortune we've needed on the o-line.

The Cowboys haven't been afraid of drafting small school players since Garrett has taken over. We had three in 2011 (Arkin, Harris and Josh Thomas), one in 2012 (Johnson), and two more this year (Webb and Wilcox). Harris is a keeper and reports have been good on Webb and Wilcox at this very early stage. Johnson is still a wild card, I'm hoping his workout regimen changes have eliminated the hamstring issue and we can see if he's what the team believes he is.

All of those six small school guys except Wilcox were Day Three picks. We won't know until at least the end of this year how to judge that group, but it's at least encouraging to be hearing the early impressions are good on Wilcox, Webb and Johnson so far. Of the six, Arkin would probably be the most painful whiff just because of the team's need in the interior o-line. But like I said, if Leary is ready to start and show well, that mitigates a miss on a fourth rounder at the same position.
 

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burmafrd;5100516 said:
NO you have low standards. I expect that someone from such a small school gets a 4th rd pick- you seem to think that is acceptable to be a back up.

I expect a 4th rd pick to push to be a starter in 2 years. THREE at the absolute most.

If you cannot pick up enough strength under the GOD WOICIK in two years to challenge for playing time then you most likely never will.

And I would never expect a 4th rd pick to top out as a backup unless the guy he is backing up is a pro bowl or that level player. And when you look at what we have had at guard and this is a guy who HAS NEVER BEEN ACTIVATED. Think on that

Not sure why you think 4th rd picks for a guard from a small school is a throw away pick. Now if he was from say Oklahoma or such I would expect more sooner. But to get a 4th rd pick playing against such sad competition he must have flashed starter talent or he NEVER should have been picked

My standards are anything but low, and above all else, they're realistic.

It's obvious we'll have to agree to disagree. If he makes the roster this year, it will be because they believe he can come in and play, if needed. That, in and of itself, rules out the "bust" label for me, as there are only about 1,700 guys in the world who qualify to make an NFL roster. But to each their own.

Honestly, I won't be surprised if he doesn't make the squad and gets released. But he hasn't looked bad thus far in the offseason, and he can focus on G exclusively instead of having to play C--a position he hadn't played--as he did last year because of injury. So, as I said, he'll put up this year or be gone.
 
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