CFZ These Former Cowboys are the closest to HOF induction

Chuck Howley would like a word with you.

 

Zac over Howley! Ridiculous!

 

I was surprised Ware didn't go into the HOF on first ballot, but he will maybe next year. Witten should be next in line as a first ballot HOFer. As for ROH, i would expect Ware, Witten and Romo to be going in on the next batch once Jerry sobers up. It's not just based on performance, also you gotta be brown nosed buddies with Jerry.

 

I thought somebody said that was chocolate pudding.

 

Fair enough
Maybe the veterans committee will get him in.

 

Zach Thomas?
ware?

The HOF used to be exclusive and elite.

 

Zach Thomas is Miami was pretty elite. 11 years of at least 99 tackles right around 150 tackles in 6 straight seasons. He had just an okay year his last year with Dallas but kinda forgettable.

Ware was a pretty elite pass rusher and should be in for sure.

Chucky Howley, Too Tall Jones, and Harvey Martin not being in is still baffling. Martin was DPOY, Super Bowl MVP, ROTY, one of the best pass rushers in the game pre-LT.

Howley was a 5 time all pro, Super Bowl MVP(granted in a loss) he probably has better credentials than many other great LBs in that era.

Too Tall was more memorable for his size and being so consistent for almost 15 years even with one year where he decided to be a boxer.

 

We all know if Dallas had won at least one of the SBs against the Steelers Howley, et al would be in the HOF.

Sad but true...

 

On a related note, I hope Frederick makes it. Not his fault he got sick. Though quitting even though he was still pretty good works against him.

Gale Sayers is in the HOF with few years in the league, he got in anyway because he got hurt a lot, hopefully Freddy will get the same consideration...

 

The HOF used to be exclusive and elite.
Me opinion is the bar is now set lower to a wider net of candidates who are almost great.
The geezers, Howley, Martin ... they are harder to measure as the game has quickened and athletes today seemed better toned.
I say set a time limit on geezers then move on. Just like time moves on.

 

Tha is OK, lad, Chuck is 85. Lives in Wheeling, W. Va.

 

Former Cowboy currently on the Dallas Ring of Honor:

• Bob Lilly, DT
• Don Meredith, QB
• Don Perkins, RB
• Chuck Howley, LB
• Mel Renfro, CB
• Roger Staubach, QB
• Lee Roy Jordan, LB
• Tom Landry, Head Coach
• Tony Dorsett, RB
• Randy White, DT
• Bob Hayes, WR
• Tex Schramm, GM
• Cliff Harris, S
• Rayfield Wright, OT
• Troy Aikman, QB
• Michael Irvin, WR
• Emmitt Smith, RB
• Drew Pearson, WR
• Charles Haley, DE
• Larry Allen, OT
• Darren Woodson, S
• Gil Brandt, VP of Player Personnel

...and 4 needing to arrive there right now;

Nate Newton, OT/G, 1986-1998
DeMarcus Ware, LB, 2005-2013
Jason Witten, TE, 2003-2017 & 2019
Deion Sanders, CB, 1995-1999 (An Honorable Mention)


https://thelandryhat.com/2022/06/17/cowboys-players-ring-honor-witten-newton-ware-sanders/4/

 

The fact that Gil Brandt got there before Jimmy is baffling to me.

 

How many years have you been listening to Gil Brandt?

 

Took Kevin Greene 10 years to get in despite having more sacks (160) than any other OLB in NFL history. Ware ended up with 138.5. I think Ware will get in, but I'm not surprised he wasn't first ballot.

 

No I mean I get it. Of course but at the same time. Jimmy should have been put in with Emmitt and Irvin. Gil 1000000 percent deserves to be there. I wasnt discrediting that at all.

 

I'll never accept Cornell Green not being in the ROH.

 

All three should be in.

Ware being in the top ten of all time for sacks, a SB ring(and being a factor in that), DPOY, all pros and probowls to me lock him in at some point.
Thomas would of been in the HOF if the Dolphins could of ever had more success than 1 and dones in the playoffs. To me, he's below Lewis but on the same level as Urlacher.
While Jason Taylor got famous from his total number of sacks, Thomas was the main cog behind that defense in the late 90's early 2000's. Jimmys failure in Miami was to get the offense to a good enough level.

I think Woody got overshadowed by all the talent from the 90's team. Even in his older age the impact he had on the defense was noticeable. Hell, his presence allowed Roy Williams to become a short lived star.