Things I Don't Want to See This Offseason

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Everyone is focused on making their list of off-season wants. I'm going with the opposite approach. Here are moves that I think would likely hurt the Cowboys, and therefore I don't want to see:

1. Drafting RB/CB/QB Early: I see so much talk about Melvin Gordon and other top college RBs as our first round pick. That would be a monumentally stupid move. Running backs can be had later in the draft or in free agency. Similarly, while I do think we need help in the secondary and should think about grooming Romo's successor, those are not instant-impact picks. And frankly, defensive line is a far more important need and a far more impactful position than a corner.

The time is now, folks. We can win the Super Bowl next year, which means we need to use our premium picks on guys who can contribute early. I want to see BPA with an eye towards defense, and I want to avoid any "sexy" selections on those three positions.

2. Signing Suh: Aside from just not liking him personally, he's going to be way, way too expensive. He's obviously a great player, but we can't afford him. He's the type of splash signing Jerry would have craved for years ago, so lets hope he's savvy enough to let someone else overpay this time. There's simply no way we can get him at a price that makes sense.

3. Franchising Dez: Just sign the man. I've seen multiple conversations around here on ways it can be done without break the bank. I know there are some off-field concerns, but unless there are things we don't know about, they aren't all that major. Dez is not only a beast on the field, I really think he's the heart and soul of this new wave of Cowboys players. His passion and enthusiasm seem to infect the whole team. Don't insult him with any lowball offers. Get a reasonable deal done that pays him like a top 3 receiver and lock him in long term.

4. Overpaying Murray: It sounds like the front office has learned their lesson and is being smart about this. I love Murray, but he's not worth throwing big money at. I want to make a play at him and not just let him go free, but the Cowboys shouldn't go above 5-6 mil, and shouldn't do a long term deal. Sounds like this won't be an issue.

What are some other things people don't want to see from the team this offseason?
 

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Everyone is focused on making their list of off-season wants. I'm going with the opposite approach. Here are moves that I think would likely hurt the Cowboys, and therefore I don't want to see:

1. Drafting RB/CB/QB Early: I see so much talk about Melvin Gordon and other top college RBs as our first round pick. That would be a monumentally stupid move. Running backs can be had later in the draft or in free agency. Similarly, while I do think we need help in the secondary and should think about grooming Romo's successor, those are not instant-impact picks. And frankly, defensive line is a far more important need and a far more impactful position than a corner.

The time is now, folks. We can win the Super Bowl next year, which means we need to use our premium picks on guys who can contribute early. I want to see BPA with an eye towards defense, and I want to avoid any "sexy" selections on those three positions.

2. Signing Suh: Aside from just not liking him personally, he's going to be way, way too expensive. He's obviously a great player, but we can't afford him. He's the type of splash signing Jerry would have craved for years ago, so lets hope he's savvy enough to let someone else overpay this time. There's simply no way we can get him at a price that makes sense.

3. Franchising Dez: Just sign the man. I've seen multiple conversations around here on ways it can be done without break the bank. I know there are some off-field concerns, but unless there are things we don't know about, they aren't all that major. Dez is not only a beast on the field, I really think he's the heart and soul of this new wave of Cowboys players. His passion and enthusiasm seem to infect the whole team. Don't insult him with any lowball offers. Get a reasonable deal done that pays him like a top 3 receiver and lock him in long term.

4. Overpaying Murray: It sounds like the front office has learned their lesson and is being smart about this. I love Murray, but he's not worth throwing big money at. I want to make a play at him and not just let him go free, but the Cowboys shouldn't go above 5-6 mil, and shouldn't do a long term deal. Sounds like this won't be an issue.

What are some other things people don't want to see from the team this offseason?

For a team who ran the ball a lot you don't seem to think there is any importance to the run game, yet game after game fans would holler Oh Dallas has to run it 25 to 30 times to win, now all of a sudden running means nothing and anyone can do it? That is a good way to end right back up and passing it 40 to 45 times a game and that did not work out so well
 

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Unless it's a SB contender I see Murray being open to 5-6 million deal as he has to feel his chances are better in a system he knows, with a line like ours, and the reality of an improving/improved D.
 

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For a team who ran the ball a lot you don't seem to think there is any importance to the run game, yet game after game fans would holler Oh Dallas has to run it 25 to 30 times to win, now all of a sudden running means nothing and anyone can do it? That is a good way to end right back up and passing it 40 to 45 times a game and that did not work out so well

Somehow not wanting to devote a first round draft pick on a running back and not wanting to overpay DM means I'm not interested in having a dominant rushing attack?
 

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Somehow not wanting to devote a first round draft pick on a running back and not wanting to overpay DM means I'm not interested in having a dominant rushing attack?

How about 2nd rd? You commented that we can get one later on in the draft as if it is no big deal to find one. Dallas has found many RB they did not do jack to help us win game but we got them. It does not seem to make much sense to think running attack is a big part of what this team does and yet we can just fill the spot with anyone.
 

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Suh signing in Dallas
Peterson signing in Dallas
Ware signing in Dallas. (Unless he is retiring)
 

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Agree with not drafting a CB or RB early, but they could use a QB. Weeden is not the answer. Vaughn is a moon-shot. Romo is just about done. The team needs a QB in here in the worst way possible.
 

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The team needs a QB in here in the worst way possible.

But that is not a reason to target a QB in the first round in a weak draft for the position. Or second/third round for that matter.

I am all for getting Romo's replacement and would have liked to get it done this year, but the talent is just not there.

Picking 27, what QB is worth that choice? The answer is none.
 

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Everyone is focused on making their list of off-season wants. I'm going with the opposite approach. Here are moves that I think would likely hurt the Cowboys, and therefore I don't want to see:
1. Drafting RB/CB/QB Early: I see so much talk about Melvin Gordon and other top college RBs as our first round pick. That would be a monumentally stupid move. Running backs can be had later in the draft or in free agency. Similarly, while I do think we need help in the secondary and should think about grooming Romo's successor, those are not instant-impact picks. And frankly, defensive line is a far more important need and a far more impactful position than a corner.

The time is now, folks. We can win the Super Bowl next year, which means we need to use our premium picks on guys who can contribute early. I want to see BPA with an eye towards defense, and I want to avoid any "sexy" selections on those three positions.
If they sign a couple of mid/upper tier free agent pass rushers then there would be no problem drafting a CB early.


2. Signing Suh: Aside from just not liking him personally, he's going to be way, way too expensive. He's obviously a great player, but we can't afford him. He's the type of splash signing Jerry would have craved for years ago, so lets hope he's savvy enough to let someone else overpay this time. There's simply no way we can get him at a price that makes sense.
There is no way to know what he will really get paid. He was getting paid 12.5M this season. In the middle of the season people thought picking up Melton's 9M option for 2015 might be a good idea. I said that if you could get Suh for 13M that it would be a better deal than Melton at 9M. Suh would make all 10 other defensive players on the field better.

I don't think the Cowboys will sign him, but if it was in the 13M per year range I would be fine with it.


3. Franchising Dez: Just sign the man. I've seen multiple conversations around here on ways it can be done without break the bank. I know there are some off-field concerns, but unless there are things we don't know about, they aren't all that major. Dez is not only a beast on the field, I really think he's the heart and soul of this new wave of Cowboys players. His passion and enthusiasm seem to infect the whole team. Don't insult him with any lowball offers. Get a reasonable deal done that pays him like a top 3 receiver and lock him in long term.
If he is too weak-minded to perform if he gets the franchise tag, then he's not somebody I would want to sign long term. There's really no point paying him more per season than the tag number which is somewhere around 12.8M.

Any discussion of Dez is really a wast of time because the franchise tag guarantees that he will return.


4. Overpaying Murray: It sounds like the front office has learned their lesson and is being smart about this. I love Murray, but he's not worth throwing big money at. I want to make a play at him and not just let him go free, but the Cowboys shouldn't go above 5-6 mil, and shouldn't do a long term deal. Sounds like this won't be an issue.
I agree that they shouldn't over pay Murray. I'm somewhat concerned about paying him at all because the history of RBs that were overused like he was this season is not good in the following seasons.


What are some other things people don't want to see from the team this offseason?

1. Not re-signing Jermey Parnell.
I'll be really irritated if he goes to the Skins with Callahan.

2. Waiting for the draft to fill needs.
They need to get a pass rusher or two in free agency. If Carr is cut they need a free agent replacement.

3. Drafting a QB.
Any draft resources used on a QB would take away from their ability to win now.

4. Overpaying Murray.
Already discussed.

5. Keeping Carr without a pay cut.
 

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But that is not a reason to target a QB in the first round in a weak draft for the position. Or second/third round for that matter.

I am all for getting Romo's replacement and would have liked to get it done this year, but the talent is just not there.

Picking 27, what QB is worth that choice? The answer is none.

I agree with your stance but If Petty was sitting there in the 3rd would you take him?
 

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If there's a good QB available, between rounds 2-4, who has good potential, you have to take a shot. Romo isn't getting any younger and I'd like to be ready for the day he can't go anymore. Jerry was ready to do it last year. Even he saw Romo won't last forever. Also, I don't want to go through the years between Aikman and Romo again.

Mind you, I'm not saying reach for a QB. Just saying if one falls and he's the BPA and Garrett feels good about him.
 

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One of the things already appears to have happened. I didn't want the special teams coach back. I thought he was stealing money this year.
 

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How about 2nd rd? You commented that we can get one later on in the draft as if it is no big deal to find one. Dallas has found many RB they did not do jack to help us win game but we got them. It does not seem to make much sense to think running attack is a big part of what this team does and yet we can just fill the spot with anyone.

wasn't murray a 3rd round pick?
 

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If there's a good QB available, between rounds 2-4, who has good potential, you have to take a shot. Romo isn't getting any younger and I'd like to be ready for the day he can't go anymore. Jerry was ready to do it last year. Even he saw Romo won't last forever. Also, I don't want to go through the years between Aikman and Romo again.

Mind you, I'm not saying reach for a QB. Just saying if one falls and he's the BPA and Garrett feels good about him.

Yes, that part of BPA. If they get to their 2nd round pick and they have 1 player available that they had graded as a 1st round pick and he is a QB, then they should take him; however, if there are 2 players that they have graded as 1st round pick available at their 2nd round pick, then they should necessarily take the QB. The non-QB is likely to contribute to winning in 2015. They need to maximize their probability of winning in 2015 while the Super Bowl is within reach.
 

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1. Drafting RB/CB/QB Early: I see so much talk about Melvin Gordon and other top college RBs as our first round pick. That would be a monumentally stupid move. Running backs can be had later in the draft or in free agency. Similarly, while I do think we need help in the secondary and should think about grooming Romo's successor, those are not instant-impact picks. And frankly, defensive line is a far more important need and a far more impactful position than a corner.

The time is now, folks. We can win the Super Bowl next year, which means we need to use our premium picks on guys who can contribute early. I want to see BPA with an eye towards defense, and I want to avoid any "sexy" selections on those three positions.

Agree on QB and RB.
Depending on trade options and who is still available, I'd consider Trae Waynes with the 27th pick. It's not like we're picking in the high teens.


2. Signing Suh: Aside from just not liking him personally, he's going to be way, way too expensive. He's obviously a great player, but we can't afford him. He's the type of splash signing Jerry would have craved for years ago, so lets hope he's savvy enough to let someone else overpay this time. There's simply no way we can get him at a price that makes sense.

Agree. The price would need to be about half of what many expect it to be...which ain't happen'

3. Franchising Dez: Just sign the man. I've seen multiple conversations around here on ways it can be done without break the bank. I know there are some off-field concerns, but unless there are things we don't know about, they aren't all that major. Dez is not only a beast on the field, I really think he's the heart and soul of this new wave of Cowboys players. His passion and enthusiasm seem to infect the whole team. Don't insult him with any lowball offers. Get a reasonable deal done that pays him like a top 3 receiver and lock him in long term.

I'd prefer to sign Dez long term, as long as they don't want a Calvin deal--which was too much for any WR, imo. Sign the man.

4. Overpaying Murray: It sounds like the front office has learned their lesson and is being smart about this. I love Murray, but he's not worth throwing big money at. I want to make a play at him and not just let him go free, but the Cowboys shouldn't go above 5-6 mil, and shouldn't do a long term deal. Sounds like this won't be an issue.

What are some other things people don't want to see from the team this offseason?

totally agree.
 

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Absolutely I draft a running back at 27 if he is good enough to put us over the edge. Our running game got us to.the playoffs and now it's no big deal?
 
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