Things I Don't Want to See This Offseason

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Everyone is focused on making their list of off-season wants. I'm going with the opposite approach. Here are moves that I think would likely hurt the Cowboys, and therefore I don't want to see:

1. Drafting RB/CB/QB Early: I see so much talk about Melvin Gordon and other top college RBs as our first round pick. That would be a monumentally stupid move. Running backs can be had later in the draft or in free agency. Similarly, while I do think we need help in the secondary and should think about grooming Romo's successor, those are not instant-impact picks. And frankly, defensive line is a far more important need and a far more impactful position than a corner.

The time is now, folks. We can win the Super Bowl next year, which means we need to use our premium picks on guys who can contribute early. I want to see BPA with an eye towards defense, and I want to avoid any "sexy" selections on those three positions.

2. Signing Suh: Aside from just not liking him personally, he's going to be way, way too expensive. He's obviously a great player, but we can't afford him. He's the type of splash signing Jerry would have craved for years ago, so lets hope he's savvy enough to let someone else overpay this time. There's simply no way we can get him at a price that makes sense.

3. Franchising Dez: Just sign the man. I've seen multiple conversations around here on ways it can be done without break the bank. I know there are some off-field concerns, but unless there are things we don't know about, they aren't all that major. Dez is not only a beast on the field, I really think he's the heart and soul of this new wave of Cowboys players. His passion and enthusiasm seem to infect the whole team. Don't insult him with any lowball offers. Get a reasonable deal done that pays him like a top 3 receiver and lock him in long term.

4. Overpaying Murray: It sounds like the front office has learned their lesson and is being smart about this. I love Murray, but he's not worth throwing big money at. I want to make a play at him and not just let him go free, but the Cowboys shouldn't go above 5-6 mil, and shouldn't do a long term deal. Sounds like this won't be an issue.

What are some other things people don't want to see from the team this offseason?

Agree with 3 and 4.

Don't agree with #1. People get caught up on what round a player get drafted. If a premier RB is there take him. If the guy can make D have to play 8 man fronts all the time that'll free up Dez and Romo. Gosh if a QB that we love is there take him. Yes we have a window but we also need to consider future. Romo isn't going to be around much longer.

2. Suh. Why not? Better him at 12 million than Melton at 9 million. He will stop the run and passrush. Where are you gonna find that type of talent? I hear people want several mid tier guys hoping they strike gold. I want QUALITY over QUANTITY. He makes everyone on D BETTER. He won't let Rodgers sit around with one leg. He's nasty and I love it.
 

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Suh would be a huge difference maker on this defense. Of course the price has to be right, he had Martin on skates multiple times in the game. Would be a huge upgrade as pocket collapsers are hard to find.
 

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I can agree with that. Johnny Football is a long term NFL project at best. Mettenburger has good size/arm and awareness/instincts. He might be a late season gem down the road.
yeah, unlike with Rbs, the odds of long term NFL success go way down for QB drafted in the later rounds.
But you have to actually have one sitting there earlier that is really worth taking.
I mean, last year when we were sitting in he middle of round one, I strongly felt that Manziel did not fit that description. It would have been a massive mistake and use of resources....imo.
However, I would have sure taken Mettenberger in the 5th though....because the cost and risk at that point are so low.
 

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Romo just finished his best year. Just about done, not even close. (ya, if his back is worse than we thought, okay)

The Cowboys have to start developing his replacement eventually or they'll be stuck without a QB like they were after the 2000 season. Romo will be 35 next season he could have several good years left or just a couple who knows. Eventually his skills are going to decline due to age or his health. Like the other poster mentioned Weeden isn't the answer so the Cowboys need to start preparing themselves for life after Romo. It takes time to develop a young QB it took Romo 4 years before he was ready to start.
 

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If you think a running back puts the current squad over the edge, you are seriously misguided.

Nobody said the running game is no big deal.

I just don't know what ppl were watching this year. Murray had the single.most productive year in franchise history and we went 12-4. But no biggie,we can easily replace that production with his backup and a collection of.jags

All this talk over Garrett finally having the team in the mould he wants. Hate to break it to everyone, but a lead back is one of, if not the, most important elements
 

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I know. All RB's behind this line will be great. Nonsense. Everybody forgets what happens when Romo throws 45 times a game.

I just don't know what ppl were watching this year. Murray had the single.most productive year in franchise history and we went 12-4. But no biggie,we can easily replace that production with his backup and a collection of.jags

All this talk over Garrett finally having the team in the mould he wants. Hate to break it to everyone, but a lead back is one of, if not the, most important elements
 

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3. Franchising Dez: Just sign the man. I've seen multiple conversations around here on ways it can be done without break the bank. I know there are some off-field concerns, but unless there are things we don't know about, they aren't all that major. Dez is not only a beast on the field, I really think he's the heart and soul of this new wave of Cowboys players. His passion and enthusiasm seem to infect the whole team. Don't insult him with any lowball offers. Get a reasonable deal done that pays him like a top 3 receiver and lock him in long term.

4. Overpaying Murray: It sounds like the front office has learned their lesson and is being smart about this. I love Murray, but he's not worth throwing big money at. I want to make a play at him and not just let him go free, but the Cowboys shouldn't go above 5-6 mil, and shouldn't do a long term deal. Sounds like this won't be an issue.

These two "solution" are where I will plant my flag.

First off, the Dez negotiations will be intense, and I somewhat agree about franchising him. But, I would not leave anything off the table as far as managing this team right now. And buying a year with either Dez, or preferably Murray may be the best course of action. Dez will cost a fortune that way.

Your premise of the time is now is correct. The window is open and it all depends on Romo's health. So breaking up a team, that prospered by thinking long term instead of now is what will kill the remainder of Romo's career as far as a championship will go.

It makes no sense to me why people don't get this idea in their head. This team has a problem. The end of contracts came at the least opportune time in lieu of Romo's career and health. So anything they do to break up these three (Dez, Murray, and Romo) and replace them in the draft of FA is lunacy.

Jerry says they will be players ion FA. Not sure the defense is that far away. Marinelli made progress with sticks and twigs. Add a solid pass rusher and DT, and the improvements of Lawrence, and the linebacker core Dallas will field this next season because of health and the DB's become solid. I agree Suh is a pipe dream.

But what made this team potent is the offense and its chemistry. The great unwashed here that express the idea that you can just draft Murray's replacement, or plug in Randall will reap that they sow.

Consistency is what matters most, and maybe that is a franchise of Murray for a year. Rework Romo, Smith, Carr, and sign Dez, Free and then draft well. Get healthy and make smart decisions.

But thinking any one of 500 running backs can play this position because the mediots have decreed this is the best line in football will come back and bite this team on the patoot.
 

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I don't think "anyone" could run behind this line. I don't think anyone truly believes that, but that's somehow become a common accusation around here.

The point is this: overpaying or drafting too high for a RB is a foolish mistake. Don't neglect the position, but don't throw gobs of money or premium picks at it, especially when you have a dominant run blocking line, and especially when you're talking about a guy who just ran it 400+ times.
 

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I don't think "anyone" could run behind this line. I don't think anyone truly believes that, but that's somehow become a common accusation around here.

The point is this: overpaying or drafting too high for a RB is a foolish mistake. Don't neglect the position, but don't throw gobs of money or premium picks at it, especially when you have a dominant run blocking line, and especially when you're talking about a guy who just ran it 400+ times.

THIS! We all appreciate what Murray did but his body has taken a beating in college and the pros. He looked sluggish and beat up by the end of the year. His vision, IMO, is fair and he fumbles. He's slow and leaves many yards on the field. The guy is tough as hell, blocks and catches well, and has a ton of heart, but I don't pay a lot of money for a back like Murray when I have a top offensive line. Randle is nothing special and he looked explosive as hell compared to Murray whenever he came in. I just believe that we can win with a solid RB back there. I don't think Murray is a special runner and he is poised to decline IMO. Give me a 3rd round RB or a solid FA to battle with Williams and Randle. Money is better spent elsewhere than on Murray.
 

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Suh would be a huge difference maker on this defense. Of course the price has to be right, he had Martin on skates multiple times in the game. Would be a huge upgrade as pocket collapsers are hard to find.

Dallas has a pocket collapser in Tyrone Crawford. He does it more with speed and Suh does it more with size, but the effect is the same. Except Crawford isn't liable to get suspended every other week for doing something stupid.
 

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Suh would be a huge difference maker on this defense. Of course the price has to be right, he had Martin on skates multiple times in the game. Would be a huge upgrade as pocket collapsers are hard to find.

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THIS! We all appreciate what Murray did but his body has taken a beating in college and the pros. He looked sluggish and beat up by the end of the year. His vision, IMO, is fair and he fumbles. He's slow and leaves many yards on the field. The guy is tough as hell, blocks and catches well, and has a ton of heart, but I don't pay a lot of money for a back like Murray when I have a top offensive line. Randle is nothing special and he looked explosive as hell compared to Murray whenever he came in. I just believe that we can win with a solid RB back there. I don't think Murray is a special runner and he is poised to decline IMO. Give me a 3rd round RB or a solid FA to battle with Williams and Randle. Money is better spent elsewhere than on Murray.

Post of the day!
 

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These two "solution" are where I will plant my flag.

First off, the Dez negotiations will be intense, and I somewhat agree about franchising him. But, I would not leave anything off the table as far as managing this team right now. And buying a year with either Dez, or preferably Murray may be the best course of action. Dez will cost a fortune that way.

Your premise of the time is now is correct. The window is open and it all depends on Romo's health. So breaking up a team, that prospered by thinking long term instead of now is what will kill the remainder of Romo's career as far as a championship will go.

It makes no sense to me why people don't get this idea in their head. This team has a problem. The end of contracts came at the least opportune time in lieu of Romo's career and health. So anything they do to break up these three (Dez, Murray, and Romo) and replace them in the draft of FA is lunacy.

Jerry says they will be players ion FA. Not sure the defense is that far away. Marinelli made progress with sticks and twigs. Add a solid pass rusher and DT, and the improvements of Lawrence, and the linebacker core Dallas will field this next season because of health and the DB's become solid. I agree Suh is a pipe dream.

But what made this team potent is the offense and its chemistry. The great unwashed here that express the idea that you can just draft Murray's replacement, or plug in Randall will reap that they sow.

Consistency is what matters most, and maybe that is a franchise of Murray for a year. Rework Romo, Smith, Carr, and sign Dez, Free and then draft well. Get healthy and make smart decisions.

But thinking any one of 500 running backs can play this position because the mediots have decreed this is the best line in football will come back and bite this team on the patoot.

I agree and then there is this.
Romo needs 2 things. Time to heal and Dez. I don't think Dez should get mega bucks but 9 needs him. If he gets time to heal and Dez, I think he can learn to hand the ball off to someone else.
 

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Dallas has a pocket collapser in Tyrone Crawford. He does it more with speed and Suh does it more with size, but the effect is the same. Except Crawford isn't liable to get suspended every other week for doing something stupid.

Hold on there Cowboy.
Crawford is a nice player but he's not Suh. Not even close. Besides if possible why not have play side to side on certain downs? No QB likes pressure up the middle. That will increase or INT and sacks for certain.
 

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Hold on there Cowboy.
Crawford is a nice player but he's not Suh. Not even close. Besides if possible why not have play side to side on certain downs? No QB likes pressure up the middle. That will increase or INT and sacks for certain.

This. Jethro Pugh was a nice player, but playing next to Bob Lilly for 10 years helped him get 100 sacks.
 
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