This is the kind of draft Jerry used to have back in the 90s

[SDogo]

Entirely too much homerism and "all is well". This is a questionable draft AT BEST.

only by the FANS that wanted 11 players that showed up on some high lite clips on ESPN. I don't hear many people that get paid to analyze these players complaining and even more so, our scouting dept picked them.

You would almost think by the reaction in here that our last few drafts were garbage.

 

[5Stars]

Entirely too much homerism and "all is well". This is a questionable draft AT BEST.

Aside from a few picks, this draft looks like a draft to get the ST's better. Our special teams sucked last year...now we are getting players that have played good special teams, because we already have the starting roster set.

I like this draft....

The Madden Game players probably don't....

 

[tyke1doe]

You would figure with all this great drafting recently that we'd be able to win a playoff game? Maybe not.

That has more to do with coaching, IMO.

Parcells deciding not to attack a Seattle secondary that was on the couch a few weeks before the playoff game.

Phillips thinking special teams is an afterthought, along the Giants to return a kickoff deep into our territory and putting up points after we clawed our way back in the Giants playoff game before half time.

The team is talented enough to get to the playoffs. We've seen that much. But getting your team ready to win is primarily coaching.

We take care of that next year.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I agree with the original poster ... when I hear Wade say that they're looking for "role players" in the 2nd round, I know Lacewell is back in the war room and we're looking at Kendall Watkins and Sherman Williams all over again. Jerry promised he learned his lesson and how he would never go back to that line of thinking. I cant believe any one would defend him on not only going to such a maniacly stupid draft strategy, but also bold faced lying to the fans breaking his promise.

Players should be projected over the length of their 4 year eligibility on where the Cowboys will hold their rights. If you cant find anyone who will start next year, fine ... depending on rookies to start right away is a bit polyanna-ish and stupid, because 95% of them cant, but how about draft players who have the talent to potentially be starters down the road.

Whether the players drafted pan out or not remains to be seen, but the philosophy has been PROVEN to be stupid beyond compare and a real good way go to go 12 years without a playoff win.

And the original poster was right ... this was a classic Jerry and Larry draft. Lots of moving back just for the sake of moving back (see every Jerry and Larry draft). Taking players 3 rounds early because they're your pet cats (see Tony Dixon). Drafting role players highly (see the Kendall Watkins draft). Drafting 3-4 players at the same position in the "throw everything against the wall and see what sticks" strategy (see Dewayne Goodrich/Karreem Larrimore/Mario Edwards all CB draft).

Its like Jerry and Larry got the old band back together and formed a medley of their greatest hits (or misses).

 

[dbair1967]

Remember those drafts? The ones where we did nothing but pick backups because Jerry said he didn't feel like we had any holes on the team and just needed to "add depth".

I've never seen a 9-7, non-playoff team that had no holes, but apparently that's what we are, because this team has not added one impact player in the draft. We got two linebackers who at best are going to back up the THREE linebackers ahead of them on the depth chart.

We got a raw tackle who is going to be moved inside to back up Kyle Kosier, who in a perfect world would be a backup to a better player.

Meanwhile, everyone else in our division added impact players.

This is exactly the kind of draft that led to those horrible years we had in the late 90s and early 21st century.

Sorry, couldn't disagree more. And our "impact" player from this draft is #11.

 

[Monster Heel]

I honestly don't know how anyone can justify drafting for special teams. You draft players that can be depth and provide something on special teams. It's like others have said this is a late 90s Jerry Jones draft through and through. I would like for it not to be the case, but it sure seems like it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I agree with the original poster ... when I hear Wade say that they're looking for "role players" in the 2nd round, I know Lacewell is back in the war room and we're looking at Kendall Watkins and Sherman Williams all over again. Jerry promised he learned his lesson and how he would never go back to that line of thinking. I cant believe any one would defend him on not only going to such a maniacly stupid draft strategy, but also bold faced lying to the fans breaking his promise.

Players should be projected over the length of their 4 year eligibility on where the Cowboys will hold their rights. If you cant find anyone who will start next year, fine ... depending on rookies to start right away is a bit polyanna-ish and stupid, but how about draft players who have the talent to potentially be starters down the road.

Whether the players drafted pan out or not remains to be seen, but the philosophy has been PROVEN to be stupid beyond compare and a real good way go to go 12 years without a playoff win.

And the original poster was right ... this was a classic Jerry and Larry draft. Lots of moving back just for the sake of moving back (see every Jerry and Larry draft). Drafting role players (see the Kendall Watkins draft). Drafting 3-4 players to draft one spot (anyone see the similarities between drafting all these DE/OLB tweeners right after each other and when Jerry and Larry did the Dewayne Goodrich/Kareem Larrimore/Mario Edwards all CB draft).

Do you have any evidence Larry had any input into this draft?

I think we drafted LBs because it's a 34 and we have hardly any depth there. Hardly a sign of insanity.

 

[RedRaiderCowboysFan]

Aside from a few picks, this draft looks like a draft to get the ST's better. Our special teams sucked last year...now we are getting players that have played good special teams, because we already have the starting roster set.

I like this draft....

The Madden Game players probably don't....

You say Madden players dont like the draft because they dont know who alot of these players are, but yet you like this draft and you dont know who any of these players are either. Are you saying if you like this draft then you automatically know who all of them are? Just because they are picked by Dallas doesnt mean they are or will be good players. Dont drink the kool-aid and blindly accept who the team takes just because its the Cowboys. Im sure there were alot of fans saying Kendall Watkins and Sherman WIlliams were great players and would improve the depth andimprove special teams and blah blah if you criticize this draft your not a fan. The people who say that shouldnt be allowed to be fans of any team.

There are maybe a handful of players who shouldnt worry about competition to make this team better, so perhaps only drafting backups with this starting roster could be the reason this team continues to underachieve.

 

[theogt]

None of us know for sure who would and wouldn't. I know the guys I named have a better chance of contributing than the guys we took. I know you would agree, regardless of what you say now after the fact. We passed on better players than we ended up with. That's the point here.

lol. None of us know for sure, but you do. You've got all the answers. You're just another kid with an amatuer opinion.

 

[cobra]

I agree with the original poster ... when I hear Wade say that they're looking for "role players" in the 2nd round, I know Lacewell is back in the war room and we're looking at Kendall Watkins and Sherman Williams all over again.

Parcells and Ireland drafted role players too. Fasano, Skyler Green, Tyson Thompson, Justin Beriault, Zuriel Smith, etc.

There is nothing inherently wrong with picking a kickoff specialist. Or a backup safety who will be a monster on special teams. Or situational pass rushers.

The reality is that the board fell poorly for us. We were not going to get an impact WR or impact safety. Those were the only two impact positions we had.

So we shored up our special teams and increased our team athleticism on defense. We got a potential future starting guard.

I really fail to understand what you guys think we could have done with this draft (other than draft the players you personally wanted).

This is a good team. It has all the talent in the world. The problems last year had NOTHING to do with the talent level of this team. It had to do with serious impact injuries (Romo, Kosier, Barber, Felix, McBriar, Witten, Austin, etc.) and chemistry problems (TO, Pacman). The draft couldn't fix the injury problem, but hopefully time has. And I think we fixed the chemistry problem.

If this draft shores up our special teams and provides some nice depth, I cannot fathom what the complaint is. This was a weak draft and not one were going to be able to make a serious impact in without trading next year picks WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN BEYOND STUPID.

 

[vicjagger]

Well. at least we should have the best practice squad in the league....

 

[Eddie]

Just because they are picked by Dallas doesnt mean they are or will be good players. Dont drink the kool-aid and blindly accept who the team takes just because its the Cowboys.

Wow, that's what I've been trying to say for years.

But I'm not totally against this draft ... though, the Kicker has me scratching my head.

 

[InmanRoshi]

If this draft shores up our special teams and provides some nice depth, I cannot fathom what the complaint is. This was a weak draft and not one were going to be able to make a serious impact in without trading next year picks WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN BEYOND STUPID.

Because I dont just look at immediate holes. I think about the future. I think about the crap fest were going to be in 3-4 years down the road when we have a new batch of holes and no players to fill them because we went the Kendall Watkins/Sherman Williams philosophy. Then we just become a dog chasing its tail drafting rookies to fill holes that should be filled by 2nd or 3rd year players that have already been groomed in the system. Look a the Patriots taking Rod Brace anticipating Wilfolk's future contract demands. That's what seperates good franchises from ones that go through 12 year playoff draughts.

All the role players you listed that Parcells drafted were Day 2 fliers, except for Fasano who was practically a starter playing in an offense that used a 2 TE base set. Drafting one dimensional blocking TEs just for goalline packages in the 2nd round ... that's a distinctive flavor of Jerry and Larry stupidty.

 

[5Stars]

You say Madden players dont like the draft because they dont know who alot of these players are, but yet you like this draft and you dont know who any of these players are either. Are you saying if you like this draft then you automatically know who all of them are? Just because they are picked by Dallas doesnt mean they are or will be good players. Dont drink the kool-aid and blindly accept who the team takes just because its the Cowboys. Im sure there were alot of fans saying Kendall Watkins and Sherman WIlliams were great players and would improve the depth andimprove special teams and blah blah if you criticize this draft your not a fan. The people who say that shouldnt be allowed to be fans of any team.

There are maybe a handful of players who shouldnt worry about competition to make this team better, so perhaps only drafting backups with this starting roster could be the reason this team continues to underachieve.

:laugh2:


And you're another one!

Now I know why you have 69 posts...

 

[InmanRoshi]

Do you have any evidence Larry had any input into this draft?

What exactly do you think he's doing in his office at the Ranch?

 

[5Stars]

Because I dont just look at immediate holes. I think about the future. I think about the crap fest were going to be in 3-4 years down the road when we have a new batch of holes and no players to fill them because we went the Kendall Watkins/Sherman Williams philosophy. Then we just become a dog chasing its tail drafting rookies to fill holes that should be filled by 2nd or 3rd year players that have already been groomed in the system. Look a the Patriots taking Rod Brace anticipating Wilfolk's future contract demands. That's what seperates good franchises from ones that go through 12 year playoff draughts.

All the role players you listed that Parcells drafted were Day 2 fliers. Drafting blocking TEs in the 2nd round ... that's a distinctive flavor of Jerry and Larry stupidty.

Uh...FYI.

You do know that 2 or 3 years down the road, there are still 2 or 3 drafts also, right?


:laugh2:

 

[Trendnet]

Just because they are picked by Dallas doesnt mean they are or will be good players. Dont drink the kool-aid and blindly accept who the team takes just because its the Cowboys. .

You're right...

if they were drafted by the Giants or Eagles they would be good players.

But since they were drafted by the Cowboys, they suck.

You're absolutely 100% correct, the Cowboys are the worse team in the league. They should just give up on the season already and all those players should not even bother signing their contracts because they are terrible

 

[InmanRoshi]

Uh...FYI.

You do know that 2 or 3 years down the road, there are still 2 or 3 drafts also, right?


:laugh2:

I guess the philosophy of "Hey, lets just take a muligan on an entire year's draft down the toilet .. there will be others" sounds like a judicious use of a fininite amount of resources (draft picks), but I don't see much wisdom in it

Here's a crazy, wacky idea ... how about drafting solid starting caliber talents this year. Then do it again next year. Then do it again the year after that.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Uhh... we don't have any holes.

Your stupid bull**** about being a 9-7 teams means we have to have holes makes me wonder if you watched the team last year.

We lost a frigging starting QB for part of the season, and we had a **** backup. That problem is solved. And it looks like we might have a 3rd stringer being groomed now too.

We lost our #1 RB for parts of the season, and we lost our Rookie Phenom RB for most of the season.

We had injuries everywhere.

But that was not our biggest problem. Chemistry was. And we solved that.

We have very, very few holes. Nothing that could be fixed in this draft.

I honestly don't see how you can try to justify our inept season last year when the Pats lost brady for the whole season and still were able to go 11-5. But whatever.

 

[cobra]

Because I dont just look at immediate holes. I think about the future.

Ok. Use your words. What "future holes" are you talking about? Articulate them and how we could have drafted differently to address them. Be specific instead of raging vague complaints about a perceived "drafting philosophy".