This team has to spend its first four picks on the Dline

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I know a lot of people will think this is overkill, but the Dline is going to need some major revamping in the offseason. I was hoping Dallas could sign mid tier free agents like Linval Joseph and Lamar Houston, but this team has no cap room in 2014. Last thing I want to see is the team restructure more contracts on underperforming players. Ware is a goner and Hatcher is going to sign somewhere else. Spencer will probably sign a cheap deal, but Dallas doesn't have the cap room for that.


This is what our draft should look like.

Round 1 There will be a lot of intriguing names right around here when Dallas picks. Stephen Tuitt, RaShede Hageman, and Louis Nix are all possible picks. It will come down to who of these three is available when Dallas picks. Make no mistake, Dallas must take the number 1 rated tackle on the board when they pick here. I think Dallas will have to go with Hageman as Tuit and Nix go before Dallas has a crack at them. Hageman is still a nice consolation price though. If all three guys are gone Dallas should go with the best player available. You don't want to reach for a DT just because you need one. Alternate picks could be Mosley or HaHa Cinton-Dix if teams make a run on DTs . Most likely pick here though is Hageman who should still be there when Dallas is on the podium.

Round 2 Again Dallas needs to take the best remaining DT on the board. The think I like most about Hageman is his size, power, and speed. He could easily be moved to either the 3 tech or 1 tech spot depending on who is available. Targets on this round would be Kelcy Quarles, Anthony Johnson, Ego Ferguson, Timmy Jernigan and DaQuan Jones. I would like to pair Hageman with Quarles but I think he will get plucked right before Dallas picks. I think Dallas will take Anthony Johnson or Ego Ferguson who should still be there. They have a great combination of size and power, but were not as dominant at LSU as I would have liked. Lining them next to Hageman though should free one of them to make plays. Another interesting way to go would be take Jones. He is more suited to play 1 tech and would allow Hageman to play the 3. I do not like Sutton who gained too much weight. If he could shed weight and get down to last years weight, I would change my mind.

Round 3 This is where it gets interesting. Who will be the best available pass rushing DE? Will Kareem Martin still be here or would he have been plucked right before Dallas picked? I think Martin might still be here if underclassmen like Ray Drew declare. If Martin goes Dallas could consider Jeffcoat who was ultra productive in college or George Uko who is a little bigger.

Round 4 Again who is going to be the best DE available in this round? Sometimes players slide down based on other teams needs. Taylor Hart, George Uko, DeMarucs Lawrence. There should still be some good available DEs here. I prefer Hart who has the best size and speed ratio.


These are the 2 mocks I will post. The first mock is the one that I hope happens.

1st round Louis Nix DT
2nd round Kelcy Quarles DT
3rd round Kareem Martin DE
4th round Taylor Hart DE

This would be the ideal draft. Dallas would get 2 passrushers in Quarles and Martin. Nix and Hart while big players still have some good speed.

This is the mock that I think is the most realistic and therefore most likely to happen.

1st round Ra'Shede Hageman DT
2nd round Ego Ferguson DT
3rd round George Uko DE
4th round Taylor Hart DE

In this mock Nix, Quarles, and Martin go before Dallas can pick. The players picked instead are nice consolation prices. I was tempted to go with Jackson Jeffcoat in the 3rd, but I had flashbacks of Wilber getting pancaked. Uko is still a good passrusher but doesn't have the ceiling of Martin. All four players are ready to play now and do not need to put on weight. I think this is important because Dallas cannot wait for the young lineman to develop. They have to be ready to play now. Hageman and Ferguson are very fast for interior players. Uko and Hart are decent athletes but do not have the burst of players like Martin or Jeffcoat.
 

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Mike Evans will be the first pick........Just you wait. By the way, I would go DT, LB all day
 

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I know a lot of people will think this is overkill, but the Dline is going to need some major revamping in the offseason. I was hoping Dallas could sign mid tier free agents like Linval Joseph and Lamar Houston, but this team has no cap room in 2014. Last thing I want to see is the team restructure more contracts on underperforming players. Ware is a goner and Hatcher is going to sign somewhere else. Spencer will probably sign a cheap deal, but Dallas doesn't have the cap room for that.
They need to cut Ware and sign some YOUNG free agent DLinemen.

Going into the draft over-focused on need usually gets teams into trouble. They should definitely put an emphasis on DL, but they don't need to force the picks.

They need to approach the off-season with an eye to peaking in 2015, not in 2014. This mindset would keep them out of trouble.
 

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You never want to spend your top four picks that narrowly focused but it does look like a strong DL draft and we can use picks there for sure.

This team badly needs a LB a Safety and just talent in general.
 

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They need to cut Ware and sign some YOUNG free agent DLinemen.

Going into the draft over-focused on need usually gets teams into trouble. They should definitely put an emphasis on DL, but they don't need to force the picks.

They need to approach the off-season with an eye to peaking in 2015, not in 2014. This mindset would keep them out of trouble.
You keep saying it but it is not at all a realistic option.
Young quality DL rarely hit the open market and when they do they get paid big money.

Ware after he was released is the kind of contract and guy that comes available.
 

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Your draft is missing something. Perhaps a dash of Beasley.

Shazaam! Now you have something.
 

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You never want to spend your top four picks that narrowly focused but it does look like a strong DL draft and we can use picks there for sure.

This team badly needs a LB a Safety and just talent in general.
I agree that you don't want to be so narrowly focused that you miss out on other talent, which is needed everywhere.

But if the intention is to remain in this style of defense, we desperately need to get quicker, penetrating players to make it work. Otherwise, it will fall again.
 

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Even if they only got two starters and two rotation guys it would be nice. Never happen though.
 

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Beasly is a beast, but he is a little small at 235 lbs. Much more suited for OLBer than DE.
That is fine. He can put his hand on the ground in obvious rush situations. And if need be, can play in a role similar to Von Miller. Bruce Irvin doesn't outweigh him much, and he had an impact his rookie year for Seattle.

I just want guys who can get after to the QB quickly.
 

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You keep saying it but it is not at all a realistic option.
Young quality DL rarely hit the open market and when they do they get paid big money.

Ware after he was released is the kind of contract and guy that comes available.

Example of free agents in 2013:
Cliff Avril, 2014 cost 6M, 8 sacks
Michael Bennett, 2014 cost 4.8M, 8.5 sacks
 

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Example of free agents in 2013:
Cliff Avril, 2014 cost 6M, 8 sacks
Michael Bennett, 2014 cost 4.8M, 8.5 sacks

Avril was at 6.5million apy and his agent is being banned. But his cap number for 2014 is 9.25m and the team probably tries to extend him.

Bennett signed a one year 4.8m dollar deal because the market dried up and he badly wanted to win. He turned down bigger deals.

Over the last 5 years those guys are about the best bargains you'll find for young DL.

But whats more is neither of those guys signed long term deals that locked them up through their prime.
They chose short deals in a bad free agency year with rampant market correction.

Dallas has a much better shot of getting Spencer back for a good price than replacing him with a younger guy that's in his class.
That's the reality of free agency.
A teams far more likely to get a stop gap vet while drafting a player for the long term then getting a good young vet who can hold the spot for 5 years in their prime.
 

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Avril was at 6.5million apy and his agent is being banned. But his cap number for 2014 is 9.25m and the team probably tries to extend him.

Bennett signed a one year 4.8m dollar deal because the market dried up and he badly wanted to win. He turned down bigger deals.

Over the last 5 years those guys are about the best bargains you'll find for young DL.

But whats more is neither of those guys signed long term deals that locked them up through their prime.
They chose short deals in a bad free agency year with rampant market correction.

Dallas has a much better shot of getting Spencer back for a good price than replacing him with a younger guy that's in his class.
That's the reality of free agency.
A teams far more likely to get a stop gap vet while drafting a player for the long term then getting a good young vet who can hold the spot for 5 years in their prime.

It would cost them a total of 6M if they only wanted to keep him for 2013. His total contract was 2-years, 13M or 6.5M average per season.

I gave you two players off the top of my memory. I'm sure they're not the only ones.

You are just speculating that the only players available are stopgap veterans. I doubt if anyone believes that it's impossible to sign a quality free agent under age 29 if a team has the cap space available.
 

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Back yourself off of the cliff. 4 straight D lineman in the draft would indeed be a huge overkill. Whether you like it or not Jerry is going to keep restructure contracts and there will some cap room. Bringing back Spencer on a cheap 1 year deal isn't at all far fetched either. D Ware will probably rework his deal in some fashion and be back next year as well. Hatch will be gone though and he will be the hardest part to fill.

But all in all we need 1 starting DT, 1 rotational DT, and 1 DE that will rotate with Selvie to equal a solid starter. And while they might not be stars I think Crawford and Bass will be much better as rotational players then all of the street free agents we threw out there. I agree that 1st round should go to DT, but after that we could get a pas rushing DE in rounds 3 or 4 and be fine.
 

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It would cost them a total of 6M if they only wanted to keep him for 2013. His total contract was 2-years, 13M or 6.5M average per season.

I gave you two players off the top of my memory. I'm sure they're not the only ones.

You are just speculating that the only players available are stopgap veterans. I doubt if anyone believes that it's impossible to sign a quality free agent under age 29 if a team has the cap space available.

But they do want to keep him and will pay the 9.5m this year or extend him which was the point.
He was an anomaly who would be making far more money if his agent was not a dolt who didn't fax in signed paperwork.

Who said it was "impossible to sign a quality free agent under 29"??
I simply said that costs A LOT of money for DL when it is possible and Dallas doesn't have a LOT of money.

Whats more hilarious is your plan is using Carr as a contract parameter.
Like extremes much?

Bottom line is your plan is dependant upon miracles happening instead of intelligent planning or rational thinking.
Which is why every off-season you'll be wholly disappointed.

Who was the last under 30 DL FA we signed(not resigned) to more than league minimums? The Russian kid?
Been a while for sure.

You know this cap stuff as well as anyone who posts here. I wholeheartedly appreciate that. But you steer us in over the moon directions by being insanely rosy with cap projections and off-season plans. Not much different than the draft guys who have us taking four 1st round rated DL in one draft.
 

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Here is my draft model.

1. BPA
2.BPA
3.BPA
4.BPA
5.BPA
6>BPA
7.BPA

BPA(best player available)

That model certainly 'can' work.
Provided you don't mind losing while you accumulate players at each position and you have cap space to fill gaps.

It would be terrible for Dallas currently.
They have no choice but to fill holes in the draft.
Luckily (unluckily) they have enough holes that it isn't really reaching since they can choose about half the positions as immediate needs.
 

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I wish we could get Orakpo on a 3-4 year deal, so we don't have to totally attack the front line in the draft & can still stick to the board a bit. You use this strategy though & you are in holes at other positions in 2-3 years, so yes I understand the d-line is a priority but this team was still 8-8 and as sad as the defense was, the team should've been 10-6 if not for game management from the Head Coach. WR-TE-RB-CB-C-LT-LG should most definitely be off the draft board though.
 

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i will be happy with 2 or first 4 on impact DL (DT x 2 or DT and DE) and 1 on starting FS and the last one on LB/OG

the rounds will depend on value

good news is that there are very good DL likely to be available in rounds 1-2 and maybe 3
 
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