This will be a signature game for Demarcus Ware, good or bad

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So, one of the greatest pass rushers in recent history has to have a great game in a Week 5 game we probably won't win anyway, or... what?

It tarnishes his legacy? Means he was a fraud all along?

I just don't get it sometimes around here. Between this and the "Romo stat padding" thread, I'm beginning to think we should start having to apply to start threads around here. It's ridiculous.

And sacks in the 1st quarter count too, right? Sure, he hasn't played like 2006 Demarcus Ware, and he's banged up, but he still flashes a few times a game. And frankly, when I watch other great pass rushers (Smith, JPP, Mathews) it's what I see from them too.

Guess what? The other team knows he's good. And tries to block him.

Sheesh.

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It's been a career-long problem. The brighter the lights, the harder it is to find him.

You know this is not true. Adam does not have throw up his quarter by quarter stats of the NFL's best pass rushers for you to realize this. This front 7 has to be more productive to have a chance against Denver but the onus is on all of them, not just the injured star player.

I am interested in what Marinelli and Kiffen will do to compensate for the 3 step drop and the no huddle. And with Jones out and Selvie ailing, I hope Rayford steps up on the strong side. Nevis should be more comfortable now as well. Who's going to make a play? That was the mantra of Jimmy's Cowboys. Garrett's Cowboys would do well to embrace it.

No one expects the Cowboys to win, so they have nothing to lose. Play loose and play hard. Forget about a balanced offense. Just score, score, score. In all phases of the game - offense, defense and ST.
 

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I'll admit i've been a little bit concerned about Ware's injuries the past year, but i will not doubt his willingness when it comes to the toughest opponents on the schedule. I think he will show up and hopefully make Manning a little bit Jumpy. We will need him to be in the back of his Mind every throw.
 

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I'm about up to here with Demarcus Ware.

A week after he set the Cowboys career sack record, he gets stoned by backup and third-string offensive tackles against San Diego. Until he jumped offsides on a key third-down late in the game, I never heard his name.

I watched King Dunlap do the same thing to him last year, and this was before he got hurt. Dunlap is a journeyman on par with Alex Barron.

Far too many times, Ware just completely disappears. He'll nab two sacks in the opening drive of a game, then go unnoticed for the next three quarters. After the first play of the Giants game when he intercepted Eli Manning, he then proceeded to record ZERO tackles and no sacks the rest of the game. That's hard to do as a defensive end.

The Cowboys have a good chance against Denver if Ware plays like an elite player.
Sunday will be a perfect example of great players showing up in big games. This is a big game for Dallas, which can either take a stranglehold on the division the next three games, or fall to the abyss.

Romo has to match Peyton, which he's done before. But Ware has to lead a defense that needs a compass from their supposed best player. There has to be pressure on Peyton, and it's got to be spearheaded by Ware.

It'll take at least two stops and two field goals to give Romo the chance to outscore the Broncos. It's not asking much for Ware to kill a drive or two on his own.

That is, if he's as good as superstars are supposed to be.

It'll be a typical game for Ware. He'll probably get early pressure then disappear down the stretch.
 

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Spoken from the blindest of the blind Garrett fans.

Demarcus started more games his rookie season than your amateur ever did in his pathetic "my dad got me the job" life..

We are at a sad state of affairs when you can tear down Ware and support clownshoes.
 

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Hey OP, this franchise is throwing away the careers of 3 of its best ever players. Because Jason has a "process".

You should never, ever think to start another thread criticizing a player who has made this team respectable in the face of amateur hour learning on the job.

Disgusting.
 

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Romo has to match Peyton. It'll take at least two stops and two field goals to give Romo the chance to outscore the Broncos.

I'll take two scoops of no on this idea.
 

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This is a WIDELY held opinion among DFW fans, media, and local scouting experts. Too often, Ware is an empty stat guy. He racks them up in first quarters and against inferior opponents in blowouts, but when you really need a play in a key moment of a big game, he disappears.

Charger backup linemen owned him last week. So did the weak Giants tackles.

Or jump offsides at the most inopportune times!
 

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Hey OP, this franchise is throwing away the careers of 3 of its best ever players. Because Jason has a "process".

You should never, ever think to start another thread criticizing a player who has made this team respectable in the face of amateur hour learning on the job.

Disgusting.

Wow you really need to relax. Are fans not allowed to be critical of players? Is it "disgusting" to state an opinion/position of his? If you don't like reading criticism I don't think the Internet is for you.
 

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This is a WIDELY held opinion among DFW fans, media, and local scouting experts. Too often, Ware is an empty stat guy. He racks them up in first quarters and against inferior opponents in blowouts, but when you really need a play in a key moment of a big game, he disappears.

Charger backup linemen owned him last week. So did the weak Giants tackles.

Just insane you can call this guy out when you are supporting Mr. 8-8.
 

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Wow @ the ware hate...people do realize he was hurt all last year? even though he played..it severely affected him.
 

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Wow you really need to relax. Are fans not allowed to be critical of players? Is it "disgusting" to state an opinion/position of his? If you don't like reading criticism I don't think the Internet is for you.

I am fine. I don't appreciate the criticism of Ware when he refuses to do anything to criticize Garrett,. Trying to throw Demarcus under the bus is taking it too far. What has Garrett done in big games?
 

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Am I really reading this? Smh. I remember when I had my first beer. o_O
 

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I think pressure up the middle is more important against Manning to be honest, but it would be awesome to see Ware get a blindside sack and strip some point during the game ;-).

Nevis looked a little slow and rusty last week, hope he can start to make some kind of impact this week.
 
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How often do premier defensive ends have big games against Peyton? The guy rarely has the ball long enough to get sacked or pressured. I agree with the previous poster who mentioned that pressure in the face of Manning would be more likely to affect him.
 

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A lot of dogpiling here, which is all fine and dandy.

Babe Laufenberg agrees with me. So does Daryl Johnston, Brian Broaddus, Stretch Smith, Nate Newton, and a host of other media and former players around Dallas.

It's not that Ware isn't really good. He's is. It's that he's not dominant in big moments.

Charles Haley was the opposite. You'd barely notice him until it really mattered, and then he'd take over the game.

Who cares if a "host of other media and former players" agree with you, what does that prove? IT PROVES THEY'RE AS ILL INFORMED AS YOU on this topic.

Your statements about Ware only producing against inferior teams and in blowouts in completely 100% false and baseless. The facts have been presented on this very site and they tell quite a different story. Your statements are flat out wrong.
 

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At the risk of condescension, I detest browsing the forums the day after a loss because the know-nothings crawl out from under their rocks and lather the board with nonsensical gibberish. I get more insight from my wife, frankly, who'd rather be watching "The Voice". Valid points are harder to find than Heisenberg.

So let's talk about what REALLY happened yesterday, not the sophomoric drivel of the misguided.

Yes, call out posters last week as "know nothings" who post nonsensical gibberish with invalid points and then you give us this gem of a thread calling out a first ballot HOF'er. Priceless........
 

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Ware reminds me of Harvey Martin,great pass rusher.But once age took its toll he couldn't get around even average tackles and just disappeared in games.
 
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