This years top class of receivers

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Im going to get every top wide receiver college career stats out on the table now.

Calvin Johnson - Georgia Tech
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'04 48 Receptions 837 Yards 17.4 Average 7 Touchdowns
'05 54 Receptions 888 Yards 16.4 Average 6 Touchdowns
'06 76 Receptions 1202 Yards 15.8 Average 15 Touchdowns

Ted Ginn Jr. - Ohio State
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'04 25 Receptions 359 Yards 14.4 Average 2 Touchdowns
'05 51 Receptions 803 Yards 15.7 Average 4 Touchdowns
'06 59 Receptions 781 Yards 13.2 Average 9 Touchdowns

Dwayne Bowe - LSU
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'03 9 Receptions 106 Yards 11.8 Average 0 Touchdowns
'04 39 Receptions 597 Yards 15.3 Average 5 Touchdowns
'05 41 Receptions 710 Yards 17.3 Average 9 Touchdowns
'06 65 Receptions 990 Yards 15.2 Average 12 Touchdowns

Robert Meachem - Tennessee
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'04 25 Receptions 459 Yards 18.4 Average 4 Touchdowns
'05 29 Receptions 383 Yards 13.2 Average 2 Touchdowns
'06 71 Receptions 1298 Yards 18.3 Average 11 Touchdowns

Dwayne Jarrett - USC
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'04 55 Receptions 849 Yards 15.4 Average 13 Touchdowns
'05 91 Receptions 1274 Yards 14.0 Average 16 Touchdowns
'06 70 Receptions 1015 Yards 14.5 Average 12 Touchdowns (INJURED)

Now people ask yourselves one question, who is the most productive wide receiver in this draft?:hammer:
 

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RealCowboyfan;1463132 said:
Im going to get every top wide receiver college career stats out on the table now.

. . . .

Now people ask yourselves one question, who is the most productive wide receiver in this draft?

I agree. I find it hard to believe that people are so quick to overlook Jarrett's production at a major Division I school.
 

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I think it's comical that Jarrett is often dismissed due to school he played for and also based on Mike Williams poor production as if they are same person.

I could understand his lack of speed causes some concern but if these skeptical people followed him, they would know that his outstanding route running, ability to create the separation, and amazing hands are what made him a very successful college player and those traits should enable him to have a very good career at pro level. Speed isn't everything and his production speaks for itself.
 

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You make this post as if stats mean something in college football. If they did, that QB from Hawaii would have been the overwhelming #1 pick a few years back. Different conferences, different QBs, different RBs, different offensive philosophies...
 

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RealCowboyfan;1463132 said:
Now people ask yourselves one question, who is the most productive wide receiver in this draft?
That is college this is the NFL. One doesn't equal the other. Get over the everyday man love for Jarrett. We know how you feel.
 

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big dog cowboy;1463185 said:
That is college this is the NFL. One doesn't equal the other. Get over the everyday man love for Jarrett. We know how you feel.


Okay what makes you think that he won't have better success that the rest of these guys that's in the same wide receiver class as he did?

He played against top competition and he dominanted, not every game but most.

I believe a whole lot of people didn't see this guy play in college that's why their opinions is the way they is because of the lack of knowledge of how Jarrett plays out on the field.

This the type of Wide Receiver that is going to be dominant on the NFL level. Everybody compares Jarrett to Mike Williams but people seem to forget Mike Williams took a year off from football meaning, that he miss a year of play football. Just imagine Williams would've stayed in college for another year, how good he would have been.
 

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There are so many other things to consider though.

I'd take Matt Leinart over Reggie Ball and the Tennessee QB anyday.

Many other things to consider.
 

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Ok you have an argument for Jarrett. Still Meachem made him look like a #2.

Here you go:

No one else had the QBs and overall team that Jarrett had.

Jarrett is slow.

And more importantly the majority of people that know much more than we do and do this for a living have him ranked lower than some of the others. He's falling out of the first round for a reason.

Did I mention he was slow. And not that quick?

That doesn't mean he won't do well. For his sake I hope he sets the world on fire esp if he plays for Dallas.

It does mean most think he isn't worth the risk of a one. And I'm not saying he won't do in the first.
 

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Receivers like Mark Clayton and Matt Jones wouldn't have sniffed the 2nd round in this year's draft class.
 

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It's really gonna suck for you RealCowboyfan if Dallas doesn't select Jarrett on Saturday. It seems that you have built up this image in your head of how great of a prospect he is and that no other player, let alone Wide Receiver, who could be there at #22 comes even close to him. Considering all of the possible guys Dallas could draft at #22 (and there are a crapload of them), you're setting yourself up for a big fall bro.
 

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MossBurner;1463175 said:
You make this post as if stats mean something in college football. If they did, that QB from Hawaii would have been the overwhelming #1 pick a few years back. Different conferences, different QBs, different RBs, different offensive philosophies...


So how does negate what Jarrett has done?
 

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Every draft pick is a crapshoot, because college production doesn't mean he can produce in the nfl, and neither does a great combine...
 

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I agree with the statement that a lot of guys talking negative about Jarrett probably didn't watch him that much. Stats aren't everything, but they are an important criteria, unless they are inflated for a reason like the run & shoot QB's etc.

That said, I'm done caring wether or not someone else likes the same WR as me, . To each his own.

I've watched enough of Jarrett to have not only been impressed, but blown away. Jarrett is a very, very special football player, with some of the best hands I have ever seen.

Forty dash slow, OK, on the field he is quick enough to make DB's look silly. Like Irvin, he doesn't need much seperation to be effective, he owns the ball if it comes anywhere near him. I would be thrilled if Jarrett is a Dallas Cowboy next week, and have no doubt he will be a very special WR in the NFL.

That said, I would not be dissapointed if he wasn't our pick, in fact he is not even my first choice at WR. Tedd Ginn is my first choice by a slim margin, the instant impact and dynamic game breaking ability he would bring to our team from day one is too exciting to pass. He could add a speed demention to our offense similar to what Bush has given N.O. IMO. I also think he is a much better WR right now than some people give him credit for.

Ginn & Jarrett are my first choices, but I would be OK if the draft fell in such a way that guys like Nelson, Ross, Merriweather, Staley, Grubbs or Blalock were deemed the best for us by the organization.
 

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Dana Nielsen, Falmouth, Mass.:[/SIZE][/FONT] You're on the clock, and you're taking a wide receiver. Which one would you take, Dwayne Jarrett or Ted Ginn Jr.? I like both for entirely different reasons, and I want to know if it comes down to those two, who you like.
Mickey: Boy that's a tough one. Do you go with the prototype receiver, big body who probably is a little better than some people think, or do you add speed to your team, knowing you've got a return guy for sure? See, if I'm looking for a dimension I don't have, I'd go the speed route, but understand chances are he'll never be a great NFL wide receiver. I might need another guy to be my lead guy then in a year or two, but guarantee you I can find another Jarrett in the draft next year and the year after that. Give me Ginn.




http://dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?contentType=5&id=10D473CD-A75B-1B54-912908EAEE273FDC

I gotta agree, you dont draft a slow posession WR in the first round.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1464349 said:
you dont draft possesion receivers in the first round.

Jerry Rice was considered a project and a possession WR coming out of college but if you watch the film, he plays much faster than what Rice ran the 40 in (I believe he ran in the high 4.5's or early 4.6's)

Dwayne Jarrett is the same way. Sure he ran a 4.62 but he doesn't play that way on gameday. He shows up in big time games and plus he has amazing hands and crisp route running. He'll have an easier time adjusting to the NFL than the other WR's
 

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RealCowboyfan;1464222 said:
Okay what makes you think that he won't have better success that the rest of these guys that's in the same wide receiver class as he did?

He played against top competition and he dominanted, not every game but most.

I believe a whole lot of people didn't see this guy play in college that's why their opinions is the way they is because of the lack of knowledge of how Jarrett plays out on the field.

This the type of Wide Receiver that is going to be dominant on the NFL level. Everybody compares Jarrett to Mike Williams but people seem to forget Mike Williams took a year off from football meaning, that he miss a year of play football. Just imagine Williams would've stayed in college for another year, how good he would have been.


So he was out of game shape? What are you implying. THe guy just wasn't fast enough at this level, and he couldn't really use his big body like he could in college. Mike Williams just isn't a good WR.

And so what with your stats? They are meaningless. I think the stats show that Jarret is a productive player and probably will be good at the next level, but if you think him having better stats puts him in the same league as Calvin Johnson, you're crazy.
 

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Billy Bullocks;1464420 said:
So he was out of game shape? What are you implying. THe guy just wasn't fast enough at this level, and he couldn't really use his big body like he could in college. Mike Williams just isn't a good WR.

And so what with your stats? They are meaningless. I think the stats show that Jarret is a productive player and probably will be good at the next level, but if you think him having better stats puts him in the same league as Calvin Johnson, you're crazy.


ALL I HAVE TO SAY. WE'LL SEE:star:
 

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TheSport78;1464362 said:
Jerry Rice was considered a project and a possession WR coming out of college but if you watch the film, he plays much faster than what Rice ran the 40 in (I believe he ran in the high 4.5's or early 4.6's)

Dwayne Jarrett is the same way. Sure he ran a 4.62 but he doesn't play that way on gameday. He shows up in big time games and plus he has amazing hands and crisp route running. He'll have an easier time adjusting to the NFL than the other WR's


It's really no need to explain to the people that didn't watch Dwayne Jarrett because they not going to get it anyway, why?, because they feel that the Combine is a whole college football career.

Let's take Calvin Johnson for example, a 6-5 240 pounds, 4.33, and had his first 1,000 yard season this season being healthy.

and now let's compare that to what Jarrett did when he got injured, he still got a 1,000 yard season with over 10 touchdowns and look at the competition he played too, you can't even compare the two.

Jerry Jones wouldn't regret drafting the guy Dwayne Jarrett, he has amazing hands.
 

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Thehoofbite;1464281 said:
So how does negate what Jarrett has done?

It does not negate what he has done. My points were that college success does not automatically translate to the NFL and that stats posted at USC or Notre Dame might be different if the player suited up for a different squad.
 
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