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I'm not quite sure Romo has the physical skills (hard to say at this point, and as far as attributes, he is short for an NFL QB), but I have to say it is good to hear your input on this. Hopefully Romo will be the last experiment we have at QB and if he doesn't turn into a star we actually do something in the draft next year. I honestly don't think we will be very successful this year with Romo at the helm, but at least we will know one way or another.
 

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Yakuza Rich;1113915 said:
Brady wasn't exactly Joe Montana yet, but he wound up with an 86.5 QB rating that year.

Bledsoe's QB rating was a 76 from the year before and those first 2 game in 2001.

Furthermore, Brady's completion % was five points higher.

At that point Brady was the clear cut better QB and any coach could see that. And considering they went 11-3 that year with Brady and 5-11 in Bledsoe, it really wasn't that tough of a decision. Even Campo would've stuck with Brady.


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At the time Brady was an untested rookie playing on a team with good lines and a great defense. Bledsoe was the first round draft pick with the big gun and had been a leader of the team in it's resurgence.

Brady was not asked to win the games himself and, to their credit, the team rallied around him and picked up some slack.

They went on a streak playing in a not very strong division and limped into the Super Bowl on a blown call against the Raiders, then won on a last second field goal.

The most special thing Brady did that first season was not make killer mistakes

I live in New England and watched the Pats a lot. I was a big Bledsoe fan and was happy to have him come to Dallas. I supported him here, right up until the second half of the Jacksonville game. At that point it became clear to even a stubborn SOB like me that the writing was on the wall.

It may have been an easy decision for Belichick personally but it was no where near a universally accepted decision.
 

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Thank's Pat's fan.I could'nt agree more.

It's time to pass the torch to Romo and see what we have.Bledsoe ship has sailed and sunk it's time to move on...i loved the way Romo moved around in and out of the pocket on roll out bootleg's and his ability to escape line and buy time or take off down the field..decision making must improve goes with out saying of coarse,but i'm anxious to see what he can do against the Panther's this Sunday nite..let's see what Tony can do when he get's all the snap's in practice with the first team and get's on track with receiver's tight-end's and the runningback's.
 

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I agree Jerry has been hesitant about a change from Bledsoe.

However, I seem to recall that Jerry was publicly in Bledsoe's corner much more when Henson was on the roster than he has been since Henson was cut.

I believe Jerry was hesitant to give Romo a lot of praise or hype since it tended to take away from Henson who was obviously his favorite. I always thought if it would have been Henson instead of Romo who was pushing Bledsoe in camp, Jerry would have been leading the parade to replace Bledsoe. :D

Once Henson left, Jerry has seemed to be more at ease with the idea of Romo eventually playing. He certainly didn't seem to have a problem with it last night.
 

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InmanRoshi;1113958 said:
I think Bledsoe suffered a concussion when Gurode mis-snaped and he got walloped, and hasn't come back from it. He looks spaced out on the sidelines, and according to Parcells he was benched for continual mental mistakes.

I was watching Drew Bledsoe's "In Their Own Words" the other night on the NFL Network he made a quote that stuck with me that players better think twice about sitting out with injury, because there is no assurances that they'll still have their jobs when they get healthy again. This was in regards to losing his job to Brady.

Interesting point.

He was on fire in camp before that hit, but since they did the DUI roadside field sobriety test on him over on the sidelines, he's never looked or played the same. But gosh, that was 2 months ago.
 

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CaptainAmerica;1114055 said:
Interesting point.

He was on fire in camp before that hit, but since they did the DUI roadside field sobriety test on him over on the sidelines, he's never looked or played the same. But gosh, that was 2 months ago.

I agree... he has not looked the same since that shot to the head in pre-season...
 

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Bum or not, Bledsoe responded like he did last night. Sad face. Some people never get it.

Enough said. So, get over it. Your sad face does not make you the QB.
 

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Pats Fan;1114535 said:
Bum or not, Bledsoe responded like he did last night. Sad face. Some people never get it.

Enough said. So, get over it. Your sad face does not make you the QB.

I see.

There was a thread here yesterday that was debating his leadership skills compared to anothe NFC East QB. Which it is extemely difficult for me to debate on as I am not familiar with the exploits of Drew Bledsoe when he was up east.
 

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Pats Fan;1114535 said:
Bum or not, Bledsoe responded like he did last night. Sad face. Some people never get it.

Enough said. So, get over it. Your sad face does not make you the QB.

That's why Buffalo dumped him so quickly. They knew he'd be absolutely no help to Losman or any other QB on the roster.

Do I consider Bledsoe to be a "baby". Yeah, I do.
 

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Yes, I have posted here before. Thanks for remembering. I just have this thing with Bledsoe. Out the door. Any team. Out the door. Deer eyes, dumb eyes, how did you get away with it for so long. Kind of like,,,,well,,, no politics.

So, will you be glad when I leave when Bledsoe leaves. Yep.

That's OK.


Football, the last great sport in the US.
 

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Pats Fan;1113690 said:
Of course regarding Bledsoe. I am a former sufferer of Bledsoe. When Brady came in, my football life suddenly got better.

My thoughts. One thing I know is Bledsoe would never, ever take you to the promised land. Never. Of that I am sure. It is not just that he is immobile, it is also the case that he does not stand up to pressure, takes too long to get rid of the ball, and the biggest problem, he cannot -- or look for a secondary receiver - oh, and did I mention he cannot read defenses. You are well rid of him if he is gone for good. We threw him out the door, Buffalo threw him out the door, and if the rumor is true, he is letting himself out the door this time. No loss, trust me as a New England fan. And I didn't watch him on TV, I had to sit in the stands and watch him. On again, off again Bledsoe. Oh, except if it counts, then it is always OFF again.

Now many people will continue to support him in Dallas. That was the case in New England and Buffalo. No offense to anyone, but do those people know football??? Don't worry about it. I never looked back.

As far as Romo, he is mobile. The tight end no longer has to be just a blocker (big plus). The problem is that he needs some on field experience. Looks like he can read a defense, has a pretty good arm, and adds some leadership. What I saw last night was a guy trying to force the ball into the secondary. Simply stated bad decision making. That being said Bledsoe has the same problem and how darn long has he been playing??? Give Romo a shot. If he continues to start (most likely will), and is making the same dumb mistakes by the end of the year, time to look to the draft for a QB. Still doesn't change the fact that Bledsoe is a bum. As they say, move on already.

As far as Parcells, I give him a lot of credit for making that move last night. He just should have done it at the beginning of the year. As you know, we in New England had Parcells as a coach and he brings a lot of positives. On the negative side, he likes to have players around him that he knows. Rolling the dice is something very hard for him to do. Give the guy credit for making this move (although I am sure Jones put a little pressure on). But I was also glad when Parcells moved on. Belichick puts the best players on the field. Bledsoe was benched in his prime. I am not sure Parcells would have done that.

Well, just my two cents. Been there, done that. But I would give this new kid a shot. Practice and a real game are two different worlds. He has the physical skills, now is the development of the mental skills. Bledsoe just never seemed to get that part!!!

Say what you want now that he's gone but, doesn't he still hold several New England Patriot passing records? That's what I thought, chowderhead.
 

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Oh, what would I give for a cup of that.

Living in Florida much of the year right now.

Do you have to say Chowder. Give me a break already.
 

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CaptainAmerica;1113742 said:
If you disagree, go pull Belichik's HC record pre-Brady (and it's lengthy enough to be a fair indicator) and bring that stat in here and let's discuss. That is not a knock on Belichik. He's a great defensive coach. But Brady is the reason he is mentioned in the same breath as Lombardi.

...and I guess Bart Starr had nothing to do with Lombardi's success, huh? Everyone who is successful has help from someone so your point is kind of, well, uh...moot.
 

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Pats Fan;1113690 said:
Of course regarding Bledsoe. I am a former sufferer of Bledsoe. When Brady came in, my football life suddenly got better.

My thoughts. One thing I know is Bledsoe would never, ever take you to the promised land. Never. Of that I am sure. It is not just that he is immobile, it is also the case that he does not stand up to pressure, takes too long to get rid of the ball, and the biggest problem, he cannot -- or look for a secondary receiver - oh, and did I mention he cannot read defenses. You are well rid of him if he is gone for good. We threw him out the door, Buffalo threw him out the door, and if the rumor is true, he is letting himself out the door this time. No loss, trust me as a New England fan. And I didn't watch him on TV, I had to sit in the stands and watch him. On again, off again Bledsoe. Oh, except if it counts, then it is always OFF again.

Now many people will continue to support him in Dallas. That was the case in New England and Buffalo. No offense to anyone, but do those people know football??? Don't worry about it. I never looked back.

As far as Romo, he is mobile. The tight end no longer has to be just a blocker (big plus). The problem is that he needs some on field experience. Looks like he can read a defense, has a pretty good arm, and adds some leadership. What I saw last night was a guy trying to force the ball into the secondary. Simply stated bad decision making. That being said Bledsoe has the same problem and how darn long has he been playing??? Give Romo a shot. If he continues to start (most likely will), and is making the same dumb mistakes by the end of the year, time to look to the draft for a QB. Still doesn't change the fact that Bledsoe is a bum. As they say, move on already.

As far as Parcells, I give him a lot of credit for making that move last night. He just should have done it at the beginning of the year. As you know, we in New England had Parcells as a coach and he brings a lot of positives. On the negative side, he likes to have players around him that he knows. Rolling the dice is something very hard for him to do. Give the guy credit for making this move (although I am sure Jones put a little pressure on). But I was also glad when Parcells moved on. Belichick puts the best players on the field. Bledsoe was benched in his prime. I am not sure Parcells would have done that.

Well, just my two cents. Been there, done that. But I would give this new kid a shot. Practice and a real game are two different worlds. He has the physical skills, now is the development of the mental skills. Bledsoe just never seemed to get that part!!!

Agree with most of what you wrote. Was it me or did Bledsoe run in the football with a wide open receiver in the end zone. Anyway, my buddy in grad school warned me about Bledsoe and I should have listened. He was a long time die hard Buffalo fan (we got along anyway) and warned me that Drew was not the answer.
 

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Passing records does not equate to Super Bowl wins... He also single-handedly blew the game against Green Bay in the Super Bowl throwing two crucial interceptions that were just plain piss poor reads...
 

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Up East??? East is Florida, North Carolina, etc. Northeast. That is Boston, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Connecticut (really part of NY). Up East. What???
 

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Just hit the nail on the head Khiladi. Without Bledsoe we would have won that Bowl.


Oh well, what is, is.
 

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I knew very little about Bledsoe before he got here, other than he was a good passer, had led the Pats far before, etc. I also knew he made the Pro-Bowl his first year in Buffallo and looked pretty good.

But then I also knew that for some reason, people kept giving up on him.

When he came here, we heard the same things from Pats and Buff fans alike (at least those who didn't keep their heads up his arse - which I still don't understand). They always said 'He is just good enough to break your heart,' meaning he has all the physical tools a QB needs, he just doesn't mentally grasp the game.

It took about 3/4 of the 2005 season before I started seeing it, and the beginning of this season before I finally got it. He can get you good wins against crap opponents, but he is not a playmaking QB and can just kill you. In a way, he is, to me, a more talented QC who can throw a spiral.

I have no idea what Romo can do, but I think that Pats, Bills and now Cowboy fans, including most of the league, know what you have in Bledsoe.

What's really sad is that if he mentally grasped the game, he would have won 2-3 superbowls as a starter, because he has the physical talent to be a phenomenal bus driving QB - just not the mental makeup.
 

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Some people just need to wake up and see the reality of the situation. Bledsoe sucks and he should be released.
 
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