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tuna-salad

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Here's the order on tie-breakers:
1. head to head [1-1 vs. Giants]
2.division record [Dal- 3-2, NY 4-1]
3.record vs. common opponents (S.D., St.L, Sea, Oak, S.F. + Den) [Dal-2-3, NY-?]
4.Conference record
 

djmajestik

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That is for divisional tie-breaker only. That is why it is important that we beat the skins, it will be pretty hard to win the division if we lose that and fall to 3-3 divisional. Bonus would be if they lose to the skins, and we would tie divisionally.
 

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tuna-salad said:
Here's the order on tie-breakers:
1. head to head [1-1 vs. Giants]
2.division record [Dal- 3-2, NY 4-1]
3.record vs. common opponents (S.D., St.L, Sea, Oak, S.F. + Den) [Dal-2-3, NY-?]
4.Conference record

Assuming Dallas wins out:
The Giants can lose to KC and still win the division with wins against Washington and Oakland (5-1 vs 4-2 in the division).

If the Giants beat KC and Oakland, but lose to the Deadskins, we tie on division record, but they win on common opponents 6-2 vs 5-3 (SD, StL, Sea, Oak, SF, Den, KC, AZ).

The bottom line is that they have a 2 game lead.
 

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The tiebreakers change for wild card slots. Divisional records don't matter, it goes to conference record after head to head.

Here are the current contenders for the two slots with their overall records and conference records:

Carolina 9-4 6-3
Minnesota 8-5 7-4
Dallas 8-5 6-3
Atlanta 8-5 5-4
Washington 7-6 7-2
 

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luvtheboys said:
The bottom line is that they have a 2 game lead.

No they don't. We can go 2-1, they can go 1-2, and we still can win the division on a tiebreaker -- if each team wins and loses the proper games.

If we beat Washington and St. Louis, and if the Giants lose to the Chiefs and Commanders, we could win the division no matter what happens in our game against Carolina or the Giants' game against Oakland.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
No they don't. We can go 2-1, they can go 1-2, and we still can win the division on a tiebreaker -- if each team wins and loses the proper games.

If we beat Washington and St. Louis, and if the Giants lose to the Chiefs and Commanders, we could win the division no matter what happens in our game against Carolina or the Giants' game against Oakland.

How does that wprk out??
 

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rojan said:
How does that wprk out??

We'd end up tied at head 2 head, division, common games and conference level, so it would then go to Strength of Victory. Dallas projects to win that under the scenario Adam mentioned above.

It's also possible if NY beats KC and looses to OAK, although we'd need some help. The SOV in that scenario is slightly in the Giants favor. If San Diego can beat Denver, and/or Detroit beat New Orleans, those would help.
 

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vicjagger said:
We'd end up tied at head 2 head, division, common games and conference level, so it would then go to Strength of Victory. Dallas projects to win that under the scenario Adam mentioned above.

Absolutely correct!

We win the division with NYG losses to KC (KC will steamroll) and Washington (very likely ROAD loss to a hated division rival for a terrible road team)... all we have to do is win this Sunday and at home against St Louis (and it won't matter if they beat Oakland).

Carolina would be irrelevant (except for improved seeding and possibly homefield chances / a first round bye)!

Because we would be tied at overall, head-to-head, division, common and conference games level, we would then go onto the next tie-breaker "Strength of Victory" (SOV) and we would have a +3 game advantage over NYG in this scenario (currently Dallas has the SOV edge .433 to .419)
 
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