Time to make some hard decisions on a few long-term starters

[Verdict]

Yep, only keep Tyron for a greatly reduced salary

If you could pay Tyron swing tackle money that would work. He has to be paid like a backup or he needs to go, via trade if possible.

 

[xwalker]

Tyron Smith-has 1 yr left on his contract and counts over 17 million against the cap. With his long, injury history and the emergence of Tyler Smith, it's time to make the move. Unless, he takes a pay cut or they can find a trading partner, he is a release candidate. I've heard they can save close to 10 million as a June 1st cut.

Zeke Elliot-he was the Cowboy offense for the first few years of his career, but Garrett ran him into the ground and appears he end is here. Shell of his former self and has zero burst any longer. He wants to stay, but he is now a progress stopper that is holding the team back.

Dalton Shultz-I have gone back and fourth about him, as he was a huge part of the team's passing attack, but having Shultz as the team's #2 option means your offense just isn't good enough. He is a good player, but isn't worth an elite contract. We have a few good young options, draft upcoming has a deep class, maybe add a low level veteran to the group.

The cap hit in 2023 does not matter.

It adds 13.6M to the combined 2023 & 2024 caps to keep Tyron vs cut.

Before the Steele injury, he was likely a cap cut, but now he is likely the starting RT for game 1 of 2023.

 

[xwalker]

Tyron Smith-has 1 yr left on his contract and counts over 17 million against the cap. With his long, injury history and the emergence of Tyler Smith, it's time to make the move. Unless, he takes a pay cut or they can find a trading partner, he is a release candidate. I've heard they can save close to 10 million as a June 1st cut.

Zeke Elliot-he was the Cowboy offense for the first few years of his career, but Garrett ran him into the ground and appears he end is here. Shell of his former self and has zero burst any longer. He wants to stay, but he is now a progress stopper that is holding the team back.

Dalton Shultz-I have gone back and fourth about him, as he was a huge part of the team's passing attack, but having Shultz as the team's #2 option means your offense just isn't good enough. He is a good player, but isn't worth an elite contract. We have a few good young options, draft upcoming has a deep class, maybe add a low level veteran to the group.

Time to move on from Zeke.

Franchise Pollard and draft an RB.

Schultz not worth the money. Ferguson probably as good or better.
- Their usage of all 4 TEs points to plans to move on from Schultz, IMO.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Agreed on Zeke and Elliot. But Tyron gives us the depth you need for a long play off run. So unless you start a rebuild now, as in complete overhaul, I'd keep him for that one additional year. I guess they will build on the team they have right now, because they think they're on to something. So no need to let him go. Zeke and Schultz should make enough room to get another good WR and a CB.

They can restructure Tyron's contract also, I'm guessing they do that and if he comes back healthy he can compete for LT/Swing OT and be good depth worst case.

 

[Big_D]

Zeke is not a difficult decision, it’s probably the easiest decision of the offseason. Time to move on.

 

[MAZEREZAM]

Not only that McGovern is gone (another team will pay decent money especially if they put him on the right side where he's more comfortable) so the question is do your really lose 2 of your late season starters and then like you said rely on a 3rd guy coming off a Major surgery?

I think they'll redo his deal, thats too many pieces to lose

Yep, people like to create holes in the roster out of pure frustration.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Tyron Smith-has 1 yr left on his contract and counts over 17 million against the cap. With his long, injury history and the emergence of Tyler Smith, it's time to make the move. Unless, he takes a pay cut or they can find a trading partner, he is a release candidate. I've heard they can save close to 10 million as a June 1st cut.

Zeke Elliot-he was the Cowboy offense for the first few years of his career, but Garrett ran him into the ground and appears he end is here. Shell of his former self and has zero burst any longer. He wants to stay, but he is now a progress stopper that is holding the team back.

Dalton Shultz-I have gone back and fourth about him, as he was a huge part of the team's passing attack, but having Shultz as the team's #2 option means your offense just isn't good enough. He is a good player, but isn't worth an elite contract. We have a few good young options, draft upcoming has a deep class, maybe add a low level veteran to the group.

Easy decisions.

smith and zeke gone.

shultz is a tough one.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Designating Zeke a post-June 1st release splits his $11.8M in dead money between 2023 and 2024 ($5.9M each season) thereby Dallas saves almost $11M against the cap in 2023 and roughly $8.3M in 2024.
As far as Tyron Smith, he has $8M worth of dead money remaining with a 2023 cap charge of $17.6M so he too would get designated a post-June 1st release thereby splitting the dead money ($4M each season) and saving Dallas $13.6M in 2023.

So those 2 players alone could save Dallas $24.6M in 2023 and $8.3M in 2024.

Time to cut bait and move on from those two.

Spot on

 

[Zordon]

Remember Tyron took an extremely team-friendly deal and when asked why said because he wanted to do Jerry a solid for helping him through his family issues. Maybe Jerry returns the favor now by giving him a one year extension to spread out that cap hit.

 

[Typhus]

time to let tyron walk, as much as I respect him and like him. unless he is willing to take a significant, significant pay cut to finish his career here.

bye bye zeke. unless he is willing to play for veteran minimum.

I like Schultz. he is not elite athletically, or physically gifted. but he is above average TE. worked his way into a reliable starting role. he is not elite. but we have two more that are similar to him and can combined probably produce the same and grow into good TEs. money will be spent better elsewhere. and if he gets a decent contract, goes to a decent team, will fetch us no less than a 4th round comp pick.

Add to that list Lawrence. but I don't think we can get rid of him in 2023. he has gauranteed contracts. he is good against the run, but he is paid to create pressure, get sacks and Armstrong does about the same for a lot less. one of the worst contracts Jerry ever gave out. he had over all 7 years of gauranteed contracts. unprecedented in the NFL. his cap hit next year is 26M. dead cap hit 35M. its either him or zeke as post june 1st cut, but we can't do both. most probably he is going to be cut in 2024 when the dead cap hit is 9M.

In a nut shell bad contracts...
Dak
Lawrence
Zeke

 

[CowboyRoy]

In a nut shell bad contracts...
Dak
Lawrence
Zeke

sadly daks is right where it should be.

 

[Typhus]

Easy decisions.

smith and zeke gone.

shultz is a tough one.

We drafted two to replace Schultz production.
Need Ferguson and Hendershot to both step up next season when Schultz is gone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We drafted two to replace Schultz production.
Need Ferguson and Hendershot to both step up next season when Schultz is gone.

those guys are not Shultz. Dak loves Shultz.

 

[Typhus]

those guys are not Shultz. Dak loves Shultz.

He has been a security blanket indeed, but already franchised tag, and unfortunately won't be retained at the price he will command in open market.
Reference Ced Wilson.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He has been a security blanket indeed, but already franchised tag, and unfortunately won't be retained at the price he will command in open market.
Reference Ced Wilson.

It certainly has to be a reasonable deal. If lose Shultz then we must bring in more weapons big time.

 

[Typhus]

It certainly has to be a reasonable deal. If lose Shultz then we must bring in more weapons big time.

Schultz will be a top target FA TE this season.
Im just being honest here Roy, in no way do I see him returning or negotiating.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Schultz will be a top target FA TE this season.
Im just being honest here Roy, in no way do I see him returning or negotiating.

If he wants most money he’s gone.

 

[Typhus]

If he wants most money he’s gone.

Why would he not, he has set himself up perfectly to exploit the market.
Schultz is one of two top FA TE targets this offseason.
Evan Ingram being the other.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Why would he not, he has set himself up perfectly to exploit the market.
Schultz is one of two top FA TE targets this offseason.

He should, just like pollard. Cowboys are going to have to revamp their offense.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Tyron Smith-has 1 yr left on his contract and counts over 17 million against the cap. With his long, injury history and the emergence of Tyler Smith, it's time to make the move. Unless, he takes a pay cut or they can find a trading partner, he is a release candidate. I've heard they can save close to 10 million as a June 1st cut.

Zeke Elliot-he was the Cowboy offense for the first few years of his career, but Garrett ran him into the ground and appears he end is here. Shell of his former self and has zero burst any longer. He wants to stay, but he is now a progress stopper that is holding the team back.

Dalton Shultz-I have gone back and fourth about him, as he was a huge part of the team's passing attack, but having Shultz as the team's #2 option means your offense just isn't good enough. He is a good player, but isn't worth an elite contract. We have a few good young options, draft upcoming has a deep class, maybe add a low level veteran to the group.

Tyron should be tradable. Even with his injury history, LT's are a premium. I think we could pull a late 2nd, early 3rd for that. Cincinnati should be all over that. Jonah Williams gave up 12 sacks this year