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First, let me say, Im like Sweden when it comes to Mcfadden, Im open either way. Im neutral. With that being said I think theres only one trade partner that makes sense.

If a deal should go down the only team it would go through, imo, is the Chiefs. For starters, they have been trade partners before and think highley of each other.(Jones and Peterson) Secondly, other teams around the top 5 have nothing in common with the Cowboys. In common, I mean, have the pieces in place for both parties to be happy in a trade. So, why the Chiefs?

The Chiefs are rebuilding and just traded away their best defensive player. There in no shape to win a Superbowl next year. With this draft having a weak top 10 but a strong back 20, why would they want to pay a player money thats really not much better than a player picked say 17th. I seen many mocks having them take Brandon Albert( I think thats his name) the Olineman from Virginia. Albert, is rated by many scouts between 15-20 best player. They might be able to grab him at 17 or 21 and save some space and add some picks.

Now, since the Chiefs are rebuilding what would be the most intelligent way to go? You can pick at 5,17 and 35? Or, at 17, 21, 28 and 35? If your the Chiefs I think you do this hands down. You can get a Cromartie at 17, Devin Thomas at 21 and Quetion Groves or Phillip Merling at 28. Those are some nice building blocks. Then at 35 in the second round you can add a Gosder Cherlieus, Dan Conner etc if they fall. Someone will fall in their laps in the begining of the second round, they always do. We got Gurode etc etc. Thats not bad for a rebuilding team and makes alot of sense imo for them. The final trade would probably look like 21-28 and Spears[because they just lost Allen, they need a reliable, veteran body) for the 5?


Whats you guys take on this.
 

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playmakers;2049489 said:
First, let me say, Im like Sweden when it comes to Mcfadden, Im open either way. Im neutral. With that being said I think theres only one trade partner that makes sense.

If a deal should go down the only team it would go through, imo, is the Chiefs. For starters, they have been trade partners before and think highley of each other.(Jones and Peterson) Secondly, other teams around the top 5 have nothing in common with the Cowboys. In common, I mean, have the pieces in place for both parties to be happy in a trade. So, why the Chiefs?

The Chiefs are rebuilding and just traded away their best defensive player. There in no shape to win a Superbowl next year. With this draft having a weak top 10 but a strong back 20, why would they want to pay a player money thats really not much better than a player picked say 17th. I seen many mocks having them take Brandon Albert( I think thats his name) the Olineman from Virginia. Albert, is rated by many scouts between 15-20 best player. They might be able to grab him at 17 or 21 and save some space and add some picks.

Now, since the Chiefs are rebuilding what would be the most intelligent way to go? You can pick at 5,17 and 35? Or, at 17, 21, 28 and 35? If your the Chiefs I think you do this hands down. You can get a Cromartie at 17, Devin Thomas at 21 and Quetion Groves or Phillip Merling at 28. Those are some nice building blocks. Then at 35 in the second round you can add a Gosder Cherlieus, Dan Conner etc if they fall. Someone will fall in their laps in the begining of the second round, they always do. We got Gurode etc etc. Thats not bad for a rebuilding team and makes alot of sense imo for them. The final trade would probably look like 21-28 and Spears[because they just lost Allen, they need a reliable, veteran body) for the 5?


Whats you guys take on this.

PASS, I PREFER TO KEEP OUR PICKS UNLESS ROY IS AVAILABE.
 

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It's Switzerland that has a history of neutrality, but it's nice to know you're Swedish. ;)
 

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playmakers;2049489 said:
Whats you guys take on this.
I see zero chance on us trading with the Chefs for the 5th pick to get D-Mac. Picks 17, 21, 28 and 35 sound great but there is no way the Chefs are going to pay for 3 first rounders. They are simply too cheap. That is why they traded Allen.
 

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big dog cowboy;2049531 said:
I see zero chance on us trading with the Chefs for the 5th pick to get D-Mac. Picks 17, 21, 28 and 35 sound great but there is no way the Chefs are going to pay for 3 first rounders. They are simply too cheap. That is why they traded Allen.

Its doubtful that the guaranteed money for those 4 picks combined equals what Allen got..they didnt just trade Allen because they were cheap, they didnt believe he was worth the risk due to his issues with alcohol...he's already been suspended once

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dbair1967;2049536 said:
Its doubtful that the guaranteed money for those 4 picks combined equals what Allen got..they didnt just trade Allen because they were cheap, they didnt believe he was worth the risk due to his issues with alcohol...he's already been suspended once

David
True the risk with his past alcohol issues played a part in the decision. But the money played a bigger part IMO.

It's been pretty well discussed in the local media about how Allen has cleaned up his act and isn't the party animal he once was. The Chefs know this but didn't seem willing to accept it and move forward like the Cowboys would have.

So when they figured out how much it was really going to cost them to keep Allen they just traded him away instead.

No one around here really trusts what that front office is doing and this didn't help as Allen was a fan favorite.
 

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Spectre;2049496 said:
It's Switzerland that has a history of neutrality, but it's nice to know you're Swedish. ;)
Was Switzerland neutral when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
 

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playmakers;2049489 said:
First, let me say, Im like Sweden when it comes to Mcfadden, Im open either way. Im neutral.

:lmao: :lmao2: :lmao:



But I do agree on the Chiefs. I've thought for a while that KC was our best chance to get McFadden. The numbers from a trade value standpoint make sense to go #22 and #28 for #5. And the dollar value of the contracts are much more reasonable a few picks from the top. And the other bottom line is the Jets would pounce on McFadden at #6. Darren has made multiple trips to visit them and they've been to see him more than once also. He would be their pick so we couldn't wait any further past KC.

The best case scenario is:

Miami - Jake Long
St Louis - Glenn Dorsey
Atlanta - Matt Ryan
Oakland - Chris Long

All of those make sense and could happen. KC needs a DE to replace Allen and could be looking at Gholston but if they don't like him there, it would make sense to move down. Their biggest needs are along the OL and they could fill those needs at 17, 22, 28, and 35. Plus mix in all their 3rd's and they'd be on their way to rebuilding.
 

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Spectre;2049496 said:
It's Switzerland that has a history of neutrality, but it's nice to know you're Swedish. ;)


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If we traded for McFadden, we might as well try trading Barber for Roy. Because I don't want us to have to very good RBs when we can have one good RB and a big upgrade at WR with Roy instead of Crayton.
 

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The problem is that Detriot isn't going to give you Roy for Barber and a second or a third round pick. Barber and a first rounder...maybe. But you won't have a first rounder anymore if you go up in the draft and get DMac. You'll have given them both to KC to get there.
 

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Spears is not a replacement for Allen. Spears would play DT in a 4-3. Allen would play OLB in a 3-4. Both players play DE now in name only. They actually have completely different responsibilities.
 

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AtlCB;2049774 said:
Spears is not a replacement for Allen. Spears would play DT in a 4-3. Allen would play OLB in a 3-4. Both players play DE now in name only. They actually have completely different responsibilities.

your talking about Marcus Spears and Jared Allen right?

if so, I think your wrong on both things...Spears could easily play LDE in a 4-3, its what he did very well at LSU...and I dont see how Allen would ever fit at OLB in a 3-4, he doesnt have that kind of aathletic ability...RB's and TE's would run circles around him on passing downs

David
 

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dbair1967;2049799 said:
your talking about Marcus Spears and Jared Allen right?

if so, I think your wrong on both things...Spears could easily play LDE in a 4-3, its what he did very well at LSU...and I dont see how Allen would ever fit at OLB in a 3-4, he doesnt have that kind of aathletic ability...RB's and TE's would run circles around him on passing downs

David

Like they do Ellis? :D
 
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