TO is overrated!

BigD_95

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,012
Reaction score
2,016
yea the guy is a playmaker but he is also a playkiller.


Im sick of the excuses people make for this guy. Its time to call him out. Too many drops! I believe he leads the NFL in drops? What a joke. :mad:
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
BigD_95;1146458 said:
yea the guy is a playmaker but he is also a playkiller.


Im sick of the excuses people make for this guy. Its time to call him out. Too many drops! I believe he leads the NFL in drops? What a joke. :mad:

TO needs to focus on his job and stop this other BS. I don't want to hear about sleeping in meetings or throwing fits on the sidelines. He needs to shut his mouth and do his damn job. I would also add there was nothing entertaining about his BS in the endzone and if that is what some of you think as entertainment then we clearly see things different. I'm a football fan not an idoit fan
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,894
Reaction score
27,491
I'd like to see him make a game changing play before he celebrates anymore. This is a game changing play to me. Romo throws a strike to Witten who catches it and calls a time out with :06 seconds remaining in the game to win it with a field goal.

He's made none.
 

FLCowboyFan

Hoping to be half the man Tom Landry was.
Messages
4,967
Reaction score
3,555
I hope someone calls him out in the locker room. he needs to know it is not one sided where he busts people's chops for making mistakes but he just smiles when he does. Are you part of the solution or the problem TO?
 

BigD

Got 5? We do!
Messages
585
Reaction score
212
I agree 100%. Not only is he dropping passes he's dropping game changing passes. The 4th down drop against NY and now a potential game breaking momenting changing 74 yard TD yesterday. I thought big time players made big time plays in big time games. Shut up, play, earn your money then you can nap...
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
Clove;1146473 said:
I'd like to see him make a game changing play before he celebrates anymore. This is a game changing play to me. Romo throws a strike to Witten who catches it and calls a time out with :06 seconds remaining in the game to win it with a field goal.

He's made none.

He does not need the stupid celebrations crud in the endzone, if he wants to celebrate do it after we win the game until then getting hit with 15 yarders is not cool or entertaining what so ever. This team is in no position to continue this kind of crud
 

Crown Royal

Insulin Beware
Messages
14,229
Reaction score
6,383
he is what he is. A WR has no excuse to drop easy balls, and great ones make the clutch ones.

That being said - I dunno how many people have seen him play often before he got here. But it wasn't exactly a secret that he doesn't have amazing hands. He has the 4th best hands on our team (Crayton, Witten, Glenn, TO), and if people didn't know that before he got here....sorry.
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,894
Reaction score
27,491
Doomsday101;1146483 said:
He does not need the stupid celebrations crud in the endzone, if he wants to celebrate do it after we win the game until then getting hit with 15 yarders is not cool or entertaining what so ever. This team is in no position to continue this kind of crud
I have no problems with celebrations, just not the ones that will cost us the game, although his didn't cost us anything. Where he screwed up was yelling at people for not getting him the ball, but he can't be counted on when you throw him the ball in a clutch situation.
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
Clove;1146495 said:
I have no problems with celebrations, just not the ones that will cost us the game, although his didn't cost us anything. Where he screwed up was yelling at people for not getting him the ball, but he can't be counted on when you throw him the ball in a clutch situation.

Dallas overcame his 15 yarder that is why it didn't cost us but there is no need in putting the team in that situation to begin with. This is Football not Hollywood if he want to act then go act, if he wants to dance go dance but on the football field play football and cut the stupid thing out. Dallas has a lot of work ahead of them to get where we would like to be and until that time I don't see any need for trash talking or endzone antics to draw attention to yourself.
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,894
Reaction score
27,491
Doomsday101;1146508 said:
Dallas overcame his 15 yarder that is why it didn't cost us but there is no need in putting the team in that situation to begin with. This is Football not Hollywood if he want to act then go act, if he wants to dance go dance but on the football field play football and cut the stupid thing out. Dallas has a lot of work ahead of them to get where we would like to be and until that time I don't see any need for trash talking or endzone antics to draw attention to yourself.
None of this is the reason we lost the game so it's not worth discussing. Let's talk about this defense and dropped passes and penalties and Witten not knowing which man to block on a field goal, and coaching when it comes to time outs at the end of the game, and going for 2 early in the game, and draft day moves where we had opportunities to get solid pass rushers and linemen and wound up with inactives/stiffs/ and a slow return man - or how about we talk a bout a defensive line built to stop the run but not get after the quarterback, and linebackers that are so average it's pathetic, or how about an outside linebacker that is wayyyyyyyyyy to slow (Ellis) to play every down as a linebacker or a fake pro-bowl safeties that continuously gives up big plays, and when it's time to make a game changing play (the dropped interception) he chokes- How about a punter that can boom the crap out of the ball, but can't land one inside the 10 to save his life, or a kicker that can't kick the ball into the endzone for a touch back to save his life.

WE have bigger fish to fry on this team dude, what you're talking about is small compared to our bigger issues. I'm more worried about TO dropping balls.
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
Clove;1146531 said:
None of this is the reason we lost the game so it's not worth discussing. Let's talk about this defense and dropped passes and penalties and Witten not knowing which man to block on a field goal, and coaching when it comes to time outs at the end of the game, and going for 2 early in the game, and draft day moves where we had opportunities to get solid pass rushers and linemen and wound up with inactives/stiffs/ and a slow return man - or how about we talk a bout a defensive line built to stop the run but not get after the quarterback, and linebackers that are so average it's pathetic, or how about an outside linebacker that is wayyyyyyyyyy to slow (Ellis) to play every down as a linebacker or a fake pro-bowl safeties that continuously gives up big plays, and when it's time to make a game changing play (the dropped interception) he chokes- How about a punter that can boom the crap out of the ball, but can't land one inside the 10 to save his life, or a kicker that can't kick the ball into the endzone for a touch back to save his life.

WE have bigger fish to fry on this team dude, what you're talking about is small compared to our bigger issues. I'm more worried about TO dropping balls.

I don't disagree with any of that except I don't see how TO antics are a help to this team. This team lacks focus to start with and needs to start taking care of business not acting like idiots and doing things that do not have anything to do with Football.
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,894
Reaction score
27,491
TO needs to shut up and start making game clinching plays. I'm sick of the talk, and all that other crap unless he's going to take over a game. And the only way to take over a game is to catch the dang ball.

I'll guarantee you that if Crayton had TO speed, he would be the best receiver in the game.
 

Derinyar

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,231
Reaction score
959
TO needs to not do things like that. He knows the rules. He decided that his 10 seconds on SportsCenter was more important than 15 yards. When you combine his drops with the taunting penalties I'm sure are still to come he's definately not all that great.
 

Dat Dude

Benched
Messages
229
Reaction score
0
Clove;1146560 said:
TO needs to shut up and start making game clinching plays. I'm sick of the talk, and all that other crap unless he's going to take over a game. And the only way to take over a game is to catch the dang ball.

I'll guarantee you that if Crayton had TO speed, he would be the best receiver in the game.

If thats the case... I have pretty decent hands in my flag intramural league.. If I could get open like T.O did on that seam route... I could have easily caught it with one hand, did a spin move stiff arm Rogers while telling Troy Vincent he should have retired...

Get real guys... He's just been snake bit in big games this year. Only other person on the team that could have ran past those guys would be TG and he was playing on one leg.. So if we "Cut that Bum T.O" Then what? Are you same people telling me that a Combo of Witten or Crayton would have been open.

I doubt it..

It was a big drop, in a big game but thats the way the game goes sometimes. No need to keep restating the obvious and that is that T.O has average hands. Its what he cab do after the catch.. Problem is he has to make that Grab.
 

sonnyboy

Benched
Messages
7,357
Reaction score
0
TO is the best receiver in the game. He's just not a natural player. Plenty of guys in the league and on this team with better hands. That's his one flaw. Irvin also wasnt a natural receiver, dropped more than his fair share of balls.

You have to understand he is what he is. Throw him plenty of balls becuase he is often the best player on the field.

In a very very very tight spot, 4th and 5, when the catch has to be made, we need to look somewhere else. Fleflickers, where we are certain the receiver is going to be open, need to be thrown to Glenn or Crayton.
 

LittleBoyBlue

Redvolution
Messages
35,766
Reaction score
8,411
BigD_95;1146458 said:
yea the guy is a playmaker but he is also a playkiller.


Im sick of the excuses people make for this guy. Its time to call him out. Too many drops! I believe he leads the NFL in drops? What a joke. :mad:

I agree. He needs to be called out BIG TIME.
He dropped 2 game changed passes... one against Giants and one yesterday.

While I am not going to outright call him a bonefide playkiller... because this offense is better with him... he has not closed the deal on big plays.
 

LittleBoyBlue

Redvolution
Messages
35,766
Reaction score
8,411
sonnyboy;1146630 said:
You have to understand he is what he is. Throw him plenty of balls becuase he is often the best player on the field.

I think you are right. He will get his drops. You have to throw to him alot. Argghhh!!
 

Derinyar

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,231
Reaction score
959
sonnyboy;1146630 said:
TO is the best receiver in the game. He's just not a natural player. Plenty of guys in the league and on this team with better hands. That's his one flaw. Irvin also wasnt a natural receiver, dropped more than his fair share of balls.

You have to understand he is what he is. Throw him plenty of balls becuase he is often the best player on the field.

In a very very very tight spot, 4th and 5, when the catch has to be made, we need to look somewhere else. Fleflickers, where we are certain the receiver is going to be open, need to be thrown to Glenn or Crayton.

Owens isn't the best WR in the game right now, at least not in my estimation. Give me Harrison hands down, and probably Steve Smith also.
 
Top