Tom Brady 2001 "down" games (yes, back off the ledge)

[Trouty]

NE @ MIA 10-7-2001 (loss) [took over for Bledsoe]

Brady 12-24 86 yds 0 TDs 0 INT 58.7 QB rating

NE @ DEN 10-28-2001 (win)

Brady 25-38 203 yds 2 TDs 4 INTs 57.1 QB rating

BUF @ NE 11-11-2001 (win)

Brady 15-21 107 yds 1 TD 1 INT 78.9 Rating

STL @ NE 11-18-2001 (loss)

Brady 19-27 185 yds 1 TD 2 INTs 70.8 Rating (Warner threw for 30-42 401 3 TDs)

NE @NYJ 12-02-2001 (win)

Brady 20-28 213 yds 0 TDs 0 INT 93.3 Rating

MIA @ NE 12-22-2001 (win)

Brady 11-19 108 yds 1 TD 0 INT 91.6 Rating

Pretty pedestrian, ey? They won the Super Bowl that year. Brady didn't turn into the GOAT over-night

Look at those stats. Then shoot on over to ESPN and compare them to our rook. Yes, they (Brady/Dak) are a good comp.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

 

[superonyx]

Who is this Bradley guy you are comparing Dak to?
He sounds like a bum based on those numbers. He looks like he would be better to compare to Wentz not Prescott. Sheesh.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Wait so there are ebbs and flows involved in the game of football. Teams lose? Have bad days? Young QB's have to learn through adversity sometimes? AMAZING STUFF...

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yup, Bledsoe fans pretty sure would have wanted Brady benched after his 2nd loss, or 2nd really bad game. It's all on Dak. Not the wr's or the ol that couldn't pick up a blitz. Or Zeke getting 20 yds in the 2nd half.

 

[Trouty]

Who is this Bradley guy you are comparing Dak to?
He sounds like a bum based on those numbers. He looks like he would be better to compare to Wentz not Prescott. Sheesh.

Bradley is my son's name (random aside, Onyx )

 

[Cowboysfan917]

The difference doesn't all lie in the completion percentage. Pretty sure Brady didn't miss the receivers like Dak was missing last night... or failed to pick up any yards in four downs the last drive

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Wait so there are ebbs and flows involved in the game of football. Teams lose? Have bad days? Young QB's have to learn through adversity sometimes? AMAZING STUFF...

apparently not, Lord knows Steeler Fan is telling me we have no shot and that they will win the SB now

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

The difference doesn't all lie in the completion percentage. Pretty sure Brady didn't miss the receivers like Dak was missing last night... or failed to pick up any yards in four downs the last drive

but did he in 2001, that is the issue

 

[kramskoi]

NE @ MIA 10-7-2001 (loss) [took over for Bledsoe]

Brady 12-24 86 yds 0 TDs 0 INT 58.7 QB rating

NE @ DEN 10-28-2001 (win)

Brady 25-38 203 yds 2 TDs 4 INTs 57.1 QB rating

BUF @ NE 11-11-2001 (win)

Brady 15-21 107 yds 1 TD 1 INT 78.9 Rating

STL @ NE 11-18-2001 (loss)

Brady 19-27 185 yds 1 TD 2 INTs 70.8 Rating (Warner threw for 30-42 401 3 TDs)

NE @NYJ 12-02-2001 (win)

Brady 20-28 213 yds 0 TDs 0 INT 93.3 Rating

MIA @ NE 12-22-2001 (win)

Brady 11-19 108 yds 1 TD 0 INT 91.6 Rating

Pretty pedestrian, ey? They won the Super Bowl that year. Brady didn't turn into the GOAT over-night

Look at those stats. Then shoot on over to ESPN and compare them to our rook. Yes, they (Brady/Dak) are a good comp.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

As a rebuttal...one must remember that the Patriot defense only gave up 17 ppg in 2001...they also had 22 INTs and 39 sacks on the year...and they had less than 1800 yds rushing as a team.

 

[Trouty]

As a rebuttal...one must remember that the Patriot defense only gave up 17 ppg in 2001...they also had 22 INTs and 39 sacks on the year...and they had less than 1800 yds rushing as a team.

Was only comparing QB production, not team output or efficiency, my man, Kramskoi (loooove your avatar, btw )

 

[Trouty]

The difference doesn't all lie in the completion percentage. Pretty sure Brady didn't miss the receivers like Dak was missing last night... or failed to pick up any yards in four downs the last drive

12-24

25-38

 

[tecolote]

Yup, Bledsoe fans pretty sure would have wanted Brady benched after his 2nd loss, or 2nd really bad game. It's all on Dak. Not the wr's or the ol that couldn't pick up a blitz. Or Zeke getting 20 yds in the 2nd half.

Except Bledsoe had 19 tds and 21 ints and a 77 QB rating the previous year and Tony was 2nd in the league MVP vote the last season he played.

 

[Trouty]

Except Bledsoe had 19 tds and 21 ints and a 77 QB rating the previous year and Tony was 2nd in the league MVP vote the last season he played.

This is only about comparing two similar QBs and their first year production.

Please don't deviate from the topic. Respectfully, tecolote. There's plenty of threads for that argument

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

A two time super bowl qb had the ball slip from his hand on a throw and said after the game the ball was hard to grip. He also threw for pretty much the same yards, first downs and tds/ints as his counter part.

It's wasn't a game for qbs, it happens.

 

[darthseinfeld]

but did he in 2001, that is the issue

Some people have an eidetic memory when it comes to QB play. They can vividly remember every pass Tom Brady threw in 2001 like it just happened

 

[tecolote]

This is only about comparing two similar QBs and their first year production.

Please don't deviate from the topic. Respectfully, tecolote. There's plenty of threads for that argument

Ok Trouty got it!

 

[darthseinfeld]

As a rebuttal...one must remember that the Patriot defense only gave up 17 ppg in 2001...they also had 22 INTs and 39 sacks on the year...and they had less than 1800 yds rushing as a team.

We are at 18.3 ppg

The sacks and turnovers on the other hand....

Granted I don't think we are a Super Bowl with Prescott or Romo

 

[Trouty]

Some people have an eidetic memory when it comes to QB play. They can vividly remember every pass Tom Brady threw in 2001 like it just happened

Marine, even I had to look up "eidetic".

And I'm a (self-proclaimed) wordsmith

 

[waving monkey]

Wait so there are ebbs and flows involved in the game of football. Teams lose? Have bad days? Young QB's have to learn through adversity sometimes? AMAZING STUFF...

No that's not true the fans team [if he's a Cowboy fan] can not lose. If that happens we must throw a fit.\It's in the Fan bylaws

 

[Trouty]

We are at 18.3 ppg

The sacks and turnovers on the other hand....

Granted I don't think we are a Super Bowl with Prescott or Romo

We could be if we catch lightening in the bottle.

IMO, this loss better serves that scenario. We needed this loss. So damn badly. We gonna do some damage, Darth.

When we fix this D, it's a wrap.