Tony Dungy is a Hypocrite

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I like Tony Dungy but as an equal opportunity offender, I have to call him out on his hypocritical stance. I don't mind that he is returning to coaching. What I do take issue with is his stance that family means the most to him and he is using the football coaching position as a "form of ministry" That's a lot of b.s. if you ask me. He is returning to coach the Colts because

1. They have a shot at a title next year
2. He is being paid well
3. He still enjoys coaching

If he had just said that, i would have no problem with him returning to coach. What I don't respect is how he is lying to himself and the public. Don't pretend that family means the most to you. If it did, you would have retired at the end of last season. He could have retired and served as a minister in his community.

And this whole, "it was a family decision" is b.s. too. Like his family has any real say in the matter! And besides, his family like most families are loving enough to allow him to ultimately return to coaching but that doesn't mean the wanted him to return to coaching. They just gave in to Tony.

I like Tony but I lost a lot of respect for him. He is not a man of his word. Instead, he is hypocrite pretending to be different than the other head coaches in this league. It's not about your family, it's about you...just admit it
 

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mr.jameswoods;1921873 said:
I like Tony Dungy but as an equal opportunity offender, I have to call him out on his hypocritical stance. I don't mind that he is returning to coaching. What I do take issue with is his stance that family means the most to him and he is using the football coaching position as a "form of ministry" That's a lot of b.s. if you ask me. He is returning to coach the Colts because

1. They have a shot at a title next year
2. He is being paid well
3. He still enjoys coaching

If he had just said that, i would have no problem with him returning to coach. What I don't respect is how he is lying to himself and the public. Don't pretend that family means the most to you. If it did, you would have retired at the end of last season. He could have retired and served as a minister in his community.

And this whole, "it was a family decision" is b.s. too. Like his family has any real say in the matter! And besides, his family like most families are loving enough to allow him to ultimately return to coaching but that doesn't mean the wanted him to return to coaching. They just gave in to Tony.

I like Tony but I lost a lot of respect for him. He is not a man of his word. Instead, he is hypocrite pretending to be different than the other head coaches in this league. It's not about your family, it's about you...just admit it

When he retires he can minister to more than just his community. Tom Landry traveled and ministered quite a bit outside of his own community.

I don't know if Dungy is a hypocrite. Just don't know what the discussion was at home with his family. Pretty much anything he could have said could be over analyzed to make him look good or bad. Too many things that I don't know to judge him so harshly.

I like the coaches that quit because they want to spend more time with their families and then turn around and take a commentator gig. Commentating is not as grueling as coaching, but there still is a lot of travel that takes them away from their families. It seems to happen in the NBA a lot.
 

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No one other than Dungy and his family knows whether or not it was a family decision.

Calling him a hypocrite without intimate knowledge of his family's decision making, is harsh and moronic.

All coaches spend considerable time away from their family, it's sacrifice they make to provide better things for their family and to live their dream and as long as their family is ok with it then who are we to judge them.
 

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03EBZ06;1921902 said:
No one other than Dungy and his family knows whether or not it was a family decision.

Calling him a hypocrite without intimate knowledge of his family's decision making, is harsh and moronic.

All coaches spend considerable time away from their family, it's sacrifice they make to provide better things for their family and to live their dream and as long as their family is ok with it then who are we to judge them.

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There has to be something more to this post. You didn't like something he said, so you rail on this perceived "hypocracy," despite knowing next to nothing about the situation.

I don't even understand what action you think is hypocritical. Is it that you think he lied? There's definitely no proof out there that he lied.

Is it that you perceive him to believe he's better than everyone else? How do you know he feels that way?
 

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mr.jameswoods;1921873 said:
I like Tony Dungy but as an equal opportunity offender, I have to call him out on his hypocritical stance. I don't mind that he is returning to coaching. What I do take issue with is his stance that family means the most to him and he is using the football coaching position as a "form of ministry" That's a lot of b.s. if you ask me. He is returning to coach the Colts because

1. They have a shot at a title next year
2. He is being paid well
3. He still enjoys coaching

If he had just said that, i would have no problem with him returning to coach. What I don't respect is how he is lying to himself and the public. Don't pretend that family means the most to you. If it did, you would have retired at the end of last season. He could have retired and served as a minister in his community.

And this whole, "it was a family decision" is b.s. too. Like his family has any real say in the matter! And besides, his family like most families are loving enough to allow him to ultimately return to coaching but that doesn't mean the wanted him to return to coaching. They just gave in to Tony.

I like Tony but I lost a lot of respect for him. He is not a man of his word. Instead, he is hypocrite pretending to be different than the other head coaches in this league. It's not about your family, it's about you...just admit it

:rolleyes:
 

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Being a commentator minimally takes you away from your families. Guys like Aikman fly out on Friday morning and return after their Sunday game. He probably spends a little time familiarizing himself with both teams, etc but minimal time is probably required to do that.

A head coach works at least 12 hours a day about 7 days a week during OTAs, minicamps, preseason/regular season and the playoffs along with lot of time spent in the offseason in meetings to discuss which FAs to keep/sign, monitoring the offseason weight conditioning program, studying profiles of younger players we might be interested in drafting to identify to Jerry and the coaching staff where he sees the need to upgrade and which players might fit into his system, etc. The demands on a head coach are huge compared to some minor inconvenience to work as a commentator/analysis.

As for Dungy, I don't think he is a hypocrite but must admit with his son dead about 2-3 years & given circumstances, I'd think he might be better off taking maybe 2 years off to spend with his wife & teenage son who now attending school in Tampa. It just seems to me that too much is put on his wife to handle any problems and teenage sons might need their father around.

Must admit I feel the same about Reid in Phlly. His 2 20+ year old sons are a mess/in jail and he's got 3 other children also in their teens. Gotta wonder whose holding down the fort cause his wife sure had problems with the 2 olders sons and gotta wonder how she deals with these 3. Again, it's fine to have a mother but children also need a father's time -- particularly sons.
 

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03EBZ06;1921902 said:
No one other than Dungy and his family knows whether or not it was a family decision.

Calling him a hypocrite without intimate knowledge of his family's decision making, is harsh and moronic.

All coaches spend considerable time away from their family, it's sacrifice they make to provide better things for their family and to live their dream and as long as their family is ok with it then who are we to judge them.

What knowledge do we need? Regardless of his family's opinion, if family was truly his #1 priority, then I fail to understand why he couldn't have retired after his first Superbowl to spend time with them. If Tony retired, do you really think his family would tell him "No Dad, don't retire, continue to be a head coach so that we will rarely spend time with you." Give me a break and use your common sense
 

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Its more like 16-20 hour days.

These guys can rationalize it all they want. Their job is not conducive to being a good parent. It is what it is and I'm sure it tears at them.
 

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peplaw06;1922086 said:
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There has to be something more to this post. You didn't like something he said, so you rail on this perceived "hypocracy," despite knowing next to nothing about the situation.

I don't even understand what action you think is hypocritical. Is it that you think he lied? There's definitely no proof out there that he lied.

Is it that you perceive him to believe he's better than everyone else? How do you know he feels that way?

Yes, I think he is being less than honest with himself and the media. I don't care that he went back into coaching but don't give us this p.c. religous nonsense about your family comes first when it obviously doesn't come first. I'm just sick of the dishonesty that people like him spew. He is being very santimonious and hypocritical.

And this excuse about "Not knowing what was discussed between him and his family" is also weak. Do you really think his family would oppose him retiring and spending more time with them. No, so it had nothing to do with his "family's discussion" If Tony wanted to retire, he could have done so. He just didn't want to retire because he wants to coach another year. That's fine but then don't be fake and tell people you value family and ministering. Because if he cared about those things, he would have retired and become a minister. It's really that simple. Now if I wanted to be his PR person or lawyer, I would also contrive this excuse like" How dare you judge him. You don't know what was discussed between him and his family. You don't know how his family feels" PLEASE
 

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Man, it's impressive to me how on a day when Colin Cow...teh..teh..teh..hurd spends most of his show calling Tony Dungy a "hypocrite" someone logs on and tries to be a dittohead.

Now, the thing about Colin is he's God's gift to front runners. There isn't a leader in any sports whose hind parts he isn't anatomically attached to, but of course I do expect this crowd to be a little more perceptive.

Sometimes ;)

:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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Leave it to Jameswoods to crap all over a decent man like Dungy.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1922316 said:
And this excuse about "Not knowing what was discussed between him and his family" is also weak. Do you really think his family would oppose him retiring and spending more time with them. No, so it had nothing to do with his "family's discussion" If Tony wanted to retire, he could have done so. He just didn't want to retire because he wants to coach another year. That's fine but then don't be fake and tell people you value family and ministering. Because if he cared about those things, he would have retired and become a minister. It's really that simple. Now if I wanted to be his PR person or lawyer, I would also contrive this excuse like" How dare you judge him. You don't know what was discussed between him and his family. You don't know how his family feels" PLEASE
Is it not within the realm of possibility that he does indeed value family, his ministry and his football team? You don't know what type of relationships he has with people in his organization (players, coaches, etc).

Without any evidence that he has lied (and believe me there is none. What you think is evidence is mere conjecture) you look like a fool.
 

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Is it not within the realm of possibility that he does indeed value family, his ministry and his football team? You don't know what type of relationships he has with people in his organization (players, coaches, etc).

Without any evidence that he has lied (and believe me there is none. What you think is evidence is mere conjecture) you look like a fool.

He can value all he wants.
He can't do it all as a fulltime NFL Coach.

Dungy would be better served just not addressing the matter and keeping his personal life personal.

Imagine what it must feel like when a teenager hears his Daddy preaching about how much his family means to him, yet is mostly never there..... And that he or she is forever "Dungy's" kid.
 

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He can value all he wants.
He can't do it all as a fulltime NFL Coach.

Dungy would be better served just not addressing the matter and keeping his personal life personal.

Imagine what it must feel like when a teenager hears his Daddy preaching about how much his family means to him, yet is mostly never there..... And that he or she is forever "Dungy's" kid.

Still no evidence. Lots of conjecture.
 

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windward;1922436 said:
Still no evidence. Lots of conjecture.

What evidence do we need. This isn't a court trial. You are just using that angle to deny the obvious because you want defend Tony Dungy. I'll break it down for you again

Dungy claims that family and ministering to others is his priority. His son died two years ago. He has another teenage son that needs him. He has enough money to raise his family without working. He could become a minister of a local church and preach the gospel while raising his son. If a man is truly committed to his family and the gospel, I fail to see why he would coach football at a time like this especially after he has already achieved his goal of a Superbowl. Isn't his son his responsibility? What about ministering to your family?

I know a lot of coaches put coaching ahead of their family. But a lot of coaches don't try to preach family obligations and the gospel as their priority either. Tony is a good guy but he is lying to himself and the public in regards to his priorities. He is just like any other coach whose priority is to coach football.
 

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Leave it to Jameswoods to crap all over a decent man like Dungy.

Decent man! Look I'm no saint but if my son died and I had another one that needed a father, there is no way I would coach in the NFL especially if I had enough money and I won a Superbowl. Some of us know where to draw line in the sand. I'm sorry that you don't
 

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Leave it to MR James Woods to jump up on his soap box again and tell everybody what somebody else is thinking and doing when he knows nothing about the situation. Tony Dungy is one of the finest human beings to ever walk around and the only person that has ever questioned that character again is YOU!!!! Do YOU know how much time he is going to have with his kids during the offseason? Do you know what the plan is once the season starts? Did you know that during the offseaon he will spend between three and four days a week at home in Tampa. That is probably more quality time at home than most fathers have when they are the resident parent. You have no clue and yet you are up on your soap box throwing stones at him.

Who died and left you with the moral compass of character? What gives you the right to question someones decision that affect their lives and their familys lives and have probably prayed about it for days and weeks and months before coming to a decision. How do YOU know how God is directing someones life?

You say he came back for the money-Tony is reverred in the Tampa area. He could do endorsements and speaking engagments around here and make more than he can as a coach.

You say he came back because he thinks INdy is good enough to compete for a championship. Maybe so, but if Tony believes in his heart God was leading him to stay in Indy for one more year, the talent around the team would not affect his decision. It's called character.

3 You said He sitll enjoys coaching. Probalby so and nothing wrong with that.

Whether you believe him or not is not the question, Tony Dungy always does what HE believes God is telling him to do. Why anybody would question that is beyond me.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1922466 said:
Decent man! Look I'm no saint but if my son died and I had another one that needed a father, there is no way I would coach in the NFL especially if I had enough money and I won a Superbowl. Some of us know where to draw line in the sand. I'm sorry that you don't

If in Tonys private time, he believed God was directing him to stay home in Tampa, he would have. There is not one part of me that believes any different. If you spent five minutes with the man you would know that.
 
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