Tony Romo gives Dallas a chance to win

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Chocolate Lab;2965514 said:
I guess Jerry made him pass over Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, too.

That Jerry is pretty powerful.
he drafted Henne but maybe he just isn't ready yet. i'm not sure I don't pay that much attention to the Dolphins. he also chose to get a left tackle to protect whatever qb they have.
 

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Rampage;2965515 said:
he drafted Henne but maybe he just isn't ready yet. i'm not sure I don't pay that much attention to the Dolphins

I doubt a bottom-of-the-second-round pick is what Bach meant when he said "draft a QB high".

But then I won't know unless someone quotes him because he's on ignore.
 

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Rampage;2965512 said:
I think part of that was because of Jerry's win now policy.
Yeah Jerry was the guy who wanted Testaverde and Bledsoe. Good point.

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, Jason Fabini, Adrien Murrell, all Jerry guys. Pure coincidence who they played for prior to joining this team.

The only Parcells guy who was truly good was Terry Glenn. I miss the heck out of him. I still think we stole him form Green Bay.
 

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Hostile;2965519 said:
Yeah Jerry was the guy who wanted Testaverde and Bledsoe. Good point.

Ryan Young, Dedric Ward, Jason Fabini, Adrien Murrell, all Jerry guys. Pure coincidence who they played for prior to joining this team.

The only Parcells guy who was truly good was Terry Glenn. I miss the heck out of him. I still think we stole him form Green Bay.
Bill isn't Perfect just like anybody else. But imo once Jerry saw Bill win 10 games with a bunch of scrubs it was win now from that point on. you gotta admit they and our current qb are better than any of the guys Jerry brought in.
 

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btcutter;2965210 said:
Until we win a SB, every QB and coach will be doubted in Dallas. The expectation here is SB or bust.

It is SB or bust each year which is the opposite end of the spectrum here in Buffalo. Fans here would be happy just making the playoffs and the preseason looked so bad at one point, many Bills fans were saying they'd be satisfied with just getting some "entertaining football" this year.

I'm not sure how you could run a team organization or be a fan of a team with that kind of attitude.
 

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Rampage;2965537 said:
Bill isn't Perfect just like anybody else. But imo once Jerry saw Bill win 10 games with a bunch of scrubs it was win now from that point on. you gotta admit they and our current qb are better than any of the guys Jerry brought in.
No, I don't have to admit that because it isn't even close to true. Look at the roster. Not every talented guy on the roster is a Parcells acquisition. Here I will name just a few to get you started.

BIGG
Gurode
Spencer
Felix
Choice
Bennett
Scandrick
Jenkins
Brooking

I'll stop, but it isn't even close to the entire list of guys Parcells had nothign to do with.
 

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Gemini Dolly;2965538 said:
Im going to ride with Romo until some fat lady sings.

Give me a better option or a player with a better attitude about winning and I'll show you some ocean front property in Arizona.
 

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Hostile;2965549 said:
No, I don't have to admit that because it isn't even close to true. Look at the roster. Not every talented guy on the roster is a Parcells acquisition. Here I will name just a few to get you started.

BIGG
Gurode
Spencer
Felix
Choice
Bennett
Scandrick
Jenkins
Brooking

I'll stop, but it isn't even close to the entire list of guys Parcells had nothign to do with.
my bad, I was referring to the quarterback position.
 

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Bach;2965448 said:
He's an erratic gunslinger who has a knack for making at least a couple of boneheaded plays a game. He will make quite a few plays and have quite a few big regular season games. But overall, he's unreliable.

He's the type that can win games but will also singlehandedly lose several games. He's definitely not a "big game QB".

And in order to actually win a SB, you have to win at least 3-4 games in a row in do or die situations and I don't see him being able to string together that many error free games in a row, especially in that kind of atmosphere. And in the big games, when it starts going bad for him I've noticed he seems to mentally go in the tank.

With all the scrubs we've had since Aikman, he's definitely the best we've had since then, but I think we'll have to have a much better team, especially defense for us to win any kind of championship with him.

What's ironic is it's been said taking a QB high in the draft and missing on him can set your franchise back several years. But look where we've been by not drafting a QB high since Aikman in '89, other than the reach for QC.

The philosophy that it's better to rely on journeymen QB's, castoffs or undrafted FA's rather than draft one high is mindboggling to say the least.

I disagree. I think you're mostly speculating here.
 

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Rampage;2965568 said:
which part do you disagree with?

What's ironic is it's been said taking a QB high in the draft and missing on him can set your franchise back several years. But look where we've been by not drafting a QB high since Aikman in '89, other than the reach for QC.

The philosophy that it's better to rely on journeymen QB's, castoffs or undrafted FA's rather than draft one high is mindboggling to say the least.

That and the fact that games are won and lost by the quarterback. I think the biggest mistakes last Sunday were made by Jason Garrett. His play calling was poor in regards to how many runs vs. passes he called. He should have never put Romo in that situation. It's his job to put Romo in the best position possible.

Having said that, I think with Romo we have a really good chance against NY next time we play them.
 

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Hostile;2965549 said:
No, I don't have to admit that because it isn't even close to true. Look at the roster. Not every talented guy on the roster is a Parcells acquisition. Here I will name just a few to get you started.

BIGG
Gurode
Spencer
Felix
Choice
Bennett
Scandrick
Jenkins
Brooking

I'll stop, but it isn't even close to the entire list of guys Parcells had nothign to do with.

Just to be clear, are you saying that Jerry has brought in better players than Parcells did?
 

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CowboyMcCoy;2965583 said:
That and the fact that games are won and lost by the quarterback. I think the biggest mistakes last Sunday were made by Jason Garrett. His play calling was poor in regards to how many runs vs. passes he called. He should have never put Romo in that situation. It's his job to put Romo in the best position possible.

Having said that, I think with Romo we have a really good chance against NY next time we play them.
so you wanted to continue running the rock more? If so I agree I mean they really couldn't stop it at all. but I don't get what you mean by he put Romo in a bad position. those were good play calls regarding the fact that Romo wasn't pressured by the giants. he just simply wasn't accurate. I also agree with your last comment but only time will tell.
 

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Rampage;2965558 said:
my bad, I was referring to the quarterback position.
You lost me. Romo is better than anyone Jerry brought in?

Was that what you meant? I wasn't taking it that way at all.
 

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Hoofbite;2965590 said:
Just to be clear, are you saying that Jerry has brought in better players than Parcells did?
Some of them have been. Some have not been.

Should I make a list of who each has brought in and grade them to explain, or can it just be accepted that Keith Brooking is better than Bobby Carpenter, so kudos to Jerry. Jason Witten is better than anyone at TE, so kudos to Bill.
 

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Hostile;2965600 said:
You lost me. Romo is better than anyone Jerry brought in?

Was that what you meant? I wasn't taking it that way at all.
Drew,Vinny and Romo were all brought in by Parcells. now I know supposedly Sean Payton had a big say in getting Romo who at the time was coaching under Parcells. so I give Parcells more credit towards getting El Romo than Jerry. those 3 guys are by far better than any qbs Jerry has brought in since Troy. that's what I meant.
 

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Rampage;2965607 said:
Drew,Vinny and Romo were all brought in by Parcells. now I know supposedly Sean Payton had a big say in getting Romo who at the time was coaching under Parcells. so I give Parcells more credit towards getting El Romo than Jerry. those 3 guys are by far better than any qbs Jerry has brought in since Troy. that's what I meant.
Jerry brought in Aikman, Kosar, Beuerlein, and a couple of others who were decent.

I get what you are saying though if you meant it strictly post Aikman.
 

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Hostile;2965602 said:
Some of them have been. Some have not been.

Should I make a list of who each has brought in and grade them to explain, or can it just be accepted that Keith Brooking is better than Bobby Carpenter, so kudos to Jerry. Jason Witten is better than anyone at TE, so kudos to Bill.

No need to make a list. Each has their good moves and each has their bad. We all know the count.
 
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