Tony "The Tiger" Romo

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Please go watch the play again. He took off trying to pick up yards and realized too late he didn't have the room he thought he did and began to slide two yards shy of the scrimmage. How was that the smart play in that situation? He put us in 3rd and long.

That said, he was a great quarterback; I implied as much in the title. He didn't always make the smartest decisions because he was trying to win the game with every play.

The instances became few and far between the older he got; but the older he got, the more susceptible he became to injury. Coincidentally, those shortcomings reared their ugly head simultaneously, and essentially ended is otherwise illustrious career.

He ran to the open spot and slid. Are QBs not supposed to do that? They should always be statues? They should never attempt to pickup a few yards on the ground if things look open? It's just a really poor example of what you are trying to say.

It comes off as you saying you want a complete and total coward for a qb, or someone completely unathletic.
 

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Please go watch the play again. He took off trying to pick up yards and realized too late he didn't have the room he thought he did and began to slide two yards shy of the scrimmage. How was that the smart play in that situation? He put us in 3rd and long.

That said, he was a great quarterback; I implied as much in the title. He didn't always make the smartest decisions because he was trying to win the game with every play.

The instances became few and far between the older he got; but the older he got, the more susceptible he became to injury. Coincidentally, those shortcomings reared their ugly head simultaneously, and essentially ended is otherwise illustrious career.

I remember thinking as the play was unfolding that he bailed from the pocket early because he didn't trust the rookie running back to pick up the rusher. I saw him keep his eyes downfield then quickly deciding to slide. He had plenty of room in front and I thought at the time that he played it very conservatively by any standard and especially by Romo standard. I think that is the wrong play to use to make your point however valid your point may be.
 

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He ran to the open spot and slid. Are QBs not supposed to do that? They should always be statues? They should never attempt to pickup a few yards on the ground if things look open? It's just a really poor example of what you are trying to say.

It comes off as you saying you want a complete and total coward for a qb, or someone completely unathletic.
I want a QB that understands the situation and plays accordingly. It was the preseason. The preseason is about evaluating talent, not winning the game. Given that, he should have gotten rid of the ball. Pretty simple concept really that in no way suggest I want a coward or an "unathletic" QB.
 

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I remember thinking as the play was unfolding that he bailed from the pocket early because he didn't trust the rookie running back to pick up the rusher. I saw him keep his eyes downfield then quickly deciding to slide. He had plenty of room in front and I thought at the time that he played it very conservatively by any standard and especially by Romo standard. I think that is the wrong play to use to make your point however valid your point may be.
Watch the play again. It was the backside pressure that spooked Romo. The point is he tucked the ball as he was running when he should have gotten rid of the ball. So, in my mind, it was the perfect example.
 

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He ran to the open spot and slid. Are QBs not supposed to do that? They should always be statues? They should never attempt to pickup a few yards on the ground if things look open? It's just a really poor example of what you are trying to say.

It comes off as you saying you want a complete and total coward for a qb, or someone completely unathletic.
Yeah. I re-watched the play. The pocket collapsed and Romo just ran for daylight and somewhere with room to go to the ground. Unfortunately, just as he was entering his slide a second body more than doubled the weight going down...jackhammer...spinal compression.

Oh well, that page has turned and a new (promising) chapter has already begun.
 

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I want a QB that understands the situation and plays accordingly. It was the preseason. The preseason is about evaluating talent, not winning the game. Given that, he should have gotten rid of the ball. Pretty simple concept really that in no way suggest I want a coward or an "unathletic" QB.

And he DID do what seemed like the safe thing. He ran to an open spot and slid well before he thought anyone was there to hit him. It was a freak play. The "get rid of the ball" mantra just doesn't fly in reality.
 

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And he DID do what seemed like the safe thing. He ran to an open spot and slid well before he thought anyone was there to hit him. It was a freak play. The "get rid of the ball" mantra just doesn't fly in reality.
As I said in the OP, in the regular season, post season, and the Super Bowl, you could easily justify what happened; I wouldn't have given the play a second glance. But line one of the preseason is to come away from the game healthy; if nothing else, just make sure you can play when it counts in the regular season. Romo made a poor decision. The last of many. He was still a grrreat QB (as the title of the op implies), but he did make bone-headed decisions at times. Everyone does; but the one he made ended his career.

However, the point of the OP wasn't about Romo making a mistake. That was not the focus at all. The point of the op was why he made that mistake. And the reason is he never says die; he refuses to give up on any play regardless of the situation. Your suggesting he was running just to find an open place to slide, which also happened to be two yards behind the original line of scrimmage. That makes no sense whatsoever; especially considering that had he simply thrown the ball away, we would have had 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 7. You say he did the safe thing, but getting rid of the ball would have been both safer and smarter, as he can throw the ball faster than he can run a yard and it would mean the ball would have been returned to the original line of scrimmage.

I'll grant you there at the end he was trying slide, but it wasn't until he noticed the defender coming from his right that he decided to do that. Before he noticed the defender coming from his right, he was hoping to run for a 3rd and short. But before all of that, he could have easily thrown the ball out of bounds, once he slid out of the tackle box, which occurred well before he initiated the slide. Savvy? Because if you don't now, I give up. o_O
 

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As I said in the OP, in the regular season, post season, and the Super Bowl, you could easily justify what happened; I wouldn't have given the play a second glance. But line one of the preseason is to come away from the game healthy; if nothing else, just make sure you can play when it counts in the regular season. Romo made a poor decision. The last of many. He was still a grrreat QB (as the title of the op implies), but he did make bone-headed decisions at times. Everyone does; but the one he made ended his career.

However, the point of the OP wasn't about Romo making a mistake. That was not the focus at all. The point of the op was why he made that mistake. And the reason is he never says die; he refuses to give up on any play regardless of the situation. Your suggesting he was running just to find an open place to slide, which also happened to be two yards behind the original line of scrimmage. That makes no sense whatsoever; especially considering that had he simply thrown the ball away, we would have had 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 7. You say he did the safe thing, but getting rid of the ball would have been both safer and smarter, as he can throw the ball faster than he can run a yard and it would mean the ball would have been returned to the original line of scrimmage.

I'll grant you there at the end he was trying slide, but it wasn't until he noticed the defender coming from his right that he decided to do that. Before he noticed the defender coming from his right, he was hoping to run for a 3rd and short. But before all of that, he could have easily thrown the ball out of bound, once he slid out of the tackle box, which occurred well before he initiated the slide. Savvy? Because if you don't now, I give up. o_O

Except he didn't make a mistake, so the why is meaningless.
 
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While we're on the Romo banter....loved the guy but his time was up, just couldn't be counted on to stay healthy. In today's NFL, the window is only open for so long in terms of keeping a talented squad together. Unfortunately that window was getting hijacked by his injuries.

Dak coming into the picture, with his high level of play and low rookie contract, extended that window by several years - we are very fortunate actually and couldn't of asked for a smoother landing
 

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While we're on the Romo banter....loved the guy but his time was up, just couldn't be counted on to stay healthy. In today's NFL, the window is only open for so long in terms of keeping a talented squad together. Unfortunately that window was getting hijacked by his injuries.

Dak coming into the picture, with his high level of play and low rookie contract, extended that window by several years - we are very fortunate actually and couldn't of asked for a smoother landing
I'm with you on that. Dak was indeed a God-send. I'm hoping to put together a series of sorts about elite "qualities" and Dak is next on my list. Just something to kill time between now and when I have more info to inspire more content-rich material.
 

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He tried to slide and his fragile bones snapped again. (see career injuries) It was a routine finish to a routine play, you bounce off your butt and head back to the huddle, but not Romo.
I'm with you on that. Dak was indeed a God-send. I'm hoping to put together a series of sorts about elite "qualities" and Dak is next on my list. Just something to kill time between now and when I have more info to inspire more content-rich material.
 

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That might be the weakest comeback in the history of the internet. I'll give you a like out of pity.
You are having a conversation with one who once said it would be "a dream" if we drafted Johnny Manziel and that Jerry should absolutely move up to get him if he fell to 10.
So there's that....
 
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