Too many soft players

[Randy White]

After watching these two teams, Dallas probably has the softest team in the league.

I wouldn't say the softest, but they do have a bunch of softies. Mentally soft in particular..

 

[Doomsday101]

It's never Romo's fault is what you are telling me?

Of course Romo makes mistakes we are just smart enough to know he is one of the top QB's in the NFL elite or not and the problems around the Cowboys center on OL and defense. Unlike many of us know it is a team game given what Romo has done as an individal it is not hard to see that he is not the problem but your so intent on getting rid of him that you fail to see that.

So continue on with Romo is the problem

 

[birdwells1]

I think what happens is when we draft new players they get mingled in with the rest of our weak minded quiet team and they emulate them to an extent. So in other words, the weak minded behavior is contagious.

If you come from a job that has an excellent culture of hard work and getting the job done and go to a job that has a bad culture where being lazy is tolerated, you are more likely to make a difference in changing attitudes.

If you bring a rookie into that same situation they are more likely fall in line with the culture that's already in place.

We need to sign fa from successful organizations to help change the culture inDallas..

 

[Gaede]

Completely ******** to say Romo is the problem, when he was the sole reason we beat the team that supposedly shows how much of problem Romo is....

 

[MissionCoach]

Too lazy to look through the thread, but OP is right on.

Watching yesterdays games was very discouraging. I saw 4 mentally and physically tough teams. And we don't look ANYTHING like them. They were prepared, competitive, smart, tough--and if someone went down, someone came in and filled the spot adequately.

We need a lot of help on this team. We need pass rushers on the DL and pass blockers on the OL. We need fast linebackers that can compete with todays athletic TEs, secondary that can cover and tackle. And we need toughness. Intelligence. Athleticism. Our D is old and tired and our O is fast but weak and unprepared.

This team needs ALOT of work in the offseason

sad but true

Poor drafting, mediocre FA signings, wasted draft picks on has been FA's who don't contribute, carousel of coaching, the list is endless.

Will our GM ever get it???

 

[birdwells1]

just because you say it is so does not make it true.

Romo is let down at those points in games by either his WRs dropping balls or his O line collapsing.
Or the D giving up the lead he just got them
Eli whom you clearly worship has a better O line; better WRs and a better D. You put Eli on this team this year and he is on IR by week 10.

wow, right on cue.

 

[ufcrules1]

Of course Romo makes mistakes we are just smart enough to know he is one of the top QB's in the NFL elite or not and the problems around the Cowboys center on OL and defense. Unlike many of us know it is a team game given what Romo has done as an individal it is not hard to see that he is not the problem but your so intent on getting rid of him that you fail to see that.

So continue on with Romo is the problem

I'm not content with getting rid of him at all. I've just pointed out faults I see in his game and everyone here is so in love with them that they ignore them. I'm also not obsessed with the offensive line. It needs to get better for sure but it's not far away from getting there. The defensive line and secondary are what I'm obsessed about. I think if he had a very tough defense and improved our offensive line a bit, that the sky would be the limit. I want a well rounded team like the Giants are this year.

 

[ufcrules1]

If you come from a job that has an excellent culture of hard work and getting the job done and go to a job that has a bad culture where being lazy is tolerated, you are more likely to make a difference in changing attitudes.

If you bring a rookie into that same situation they are more likely fall in line with the culture that's already in place.

We need to sign fa from successful organizations to help change the culture inDallas..

Completely agree. Nice post man.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not content with getting rid of him at all. I've just pointed out faults I see in his game and everyone here is so in love with them that they ignore them. I'm also not obsessed with the offensive line. It needs to get better for sure but it's not far away from getting there. The defensive line and secondary are what I'm obsessed about. I think if he had a very tough defense and improved our offensive line a bit, that the sky would be the limit. I want a well rounded team like the Giants are this year.

Yes he has faults as does other QB overall Romo still makes plays. Like other QB even the elite he needs protection and yes we can do a lot to sure up the interior line and provide a pocket to step up in, instead of having a pocket being shoved back into his face. Defensively we were in several games where we let 4th qrt leads vanish because the defense failed to step up.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Those were real men playing football out there today the way it's suppose to be played.

This team is too soft mentally and physically but some on this board disagree profusely.

You are wasting your time arguing with cats on this board. On how Newman was great up until this year. Or Bradie is and was a very necessary commodity. I have been saying it for years...to many guys that have never won anything have been retained on this team. And it only becomes glaring when we FINALLY bring someone else in and we immediatley see what we have been missing. Ogletree has been here how long? How long did it take for us to see Robinson, signed off the street....is better than Ogletree will EVER be? How long have we heard about how "you need guys like Bradie James"....then we insert Sean Lee and we realize in less than a full season how much better the play at ILB could be if we actually put a player in there. I can go on and on. Hatcher, Spears, Ball....the bottom line is you keep a core together that has PROVEN they should not be broken up. All this core has EVER proven is that they are average.

And I am going to call another mainstay on this team. Witten. Love him. We need him. He should be on this team. BUT...we need to NOW bring in someone to compliment him. We should not get stuck in a mode of doing everything we can to make sure he gets in the HOF. If he continues to produce while we are on our way to WINNING...then fine. But force feeding him and refusing to develop anybody else because we are trying to protect his legacy will just be plain dumb...but that is what we do!

Look at the guys we finally move on from and see what the rest of the NFL thinks of them. Ken Hamlin was treated like red headed step child by the Ravens. Andre Gurode was picked up as a BACKUP for the Ravens. Leonard Davis sat on his couch for MOST of the year. Columbo got picked up and promplty picked where he left off...stinking and helping get a coach fired. How long did we wait on Isiah Stanback? Did he EVER put on a uniform for another team after we FINALLY gave up on him? You think Igor Olshansky will ever play a down in the NFL again? Did you see how Marion Barber and Roy Williams peformed in Chicago?

 

[ufcrules1]

Yes he has faults as does other QB overall Romo still makes plays. Like other QB even the elite he needs protection and yes we can do a lot to sure up the interior line and provide a pocket to step up in, instead of having a pocket being shoved back into his face. Defensively we were in several games where we let 4th qrt leads vanish because the defense failed to step up.

You and I will just have to agree to disagree on the defense. We had terrible players trying their best to stay in games and keep up but just couldn't. Our defense is and was twice as bad as our offensive line. Romo put up some great stats this year and no he did not do it all on his own. The offensive line did play a role in him having his best year ever. Again, it needs to improve but is nowhere close to as bad as the defense IMO.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

we beat the 49ers and were a a play or two away from winning the NFC east and you guys act like our team is an embarrassment--and don't give me any of that "win the SB or you are a loser" crap. We were an 8-8 team from start to finish, about where we should be, in the process of making big changes (OL revamping)which hopefully will continue next year on defense.

 

[Woods]

sad but true

Poor drafting, mediocre FA signings, wasted draft picks on has been FA's who don't contribute, carousel of coaching, the list is endless.

Will our GM ever get it???

Our GM is making his decisions based on the guys advice around him. It's not like JJ is breaking down film.

That's Tom C in the scouting, Garrett, etc.

We can only hope that Garrett is a realist in what he actually has on the roster as of today.

I think Garrett does get it, if only because his first move was to start the upgrading process on the OL. That showed me that he was in it for the long run and that he values the trenches in building a consistent winner. Also, Garrett and scouts drafted a blue chip OL in Round 1 to start building the trenches.

Garrett also put in pad practices on Wednesdays to try and toughen up the team and make them more physical.

I'm not saying Garrett was without fault, because his game management skills could have been better, imo.

But in terms of recognizing the type of player he wants on the roster, understanding the value of the trenches, trying to surround himself with quality coaches, I think that aspect of football he does get.

We'll see if he knows how to help put together a winning roster in another 1-2 years.

 

[Doomsday101]

You and I will just have to agree to disagree on the defense. We had terrible players trying their best to stay in games and keep up but just couldn't. Our defense is and was twice as bad as our offensive line. Romo put up some great stats this year and no he did not do it all on his own. The offensive line did play a role in him having his best year ever. Again, it needs to improve but is nowhere close to as bad as the defense IMO.

I agree that defense has to have changes and have not said anything contrary to that.

OL wise Romo put up stats the problem was all too often those passes where made because Romo had to get outside and avoid the pressure most of the time Romo would get hit and knocked down and those hit add up over the course of a game. OL could not pick up short yardage to keep drives alive the OL could not get a push in the redzone to help the RB put the ball in for points.

Dallas has to address both because both play a big role in getting this team turned around

 

[tyke1doe]

btw, this is the first time I've had an unbiased intellectual conversation candidly by a Romo fan. I usually get the conventional, you're a troll, Romo is the team, you're just a hater. Romo has no team around him, you know, just foolishness. So since they want to talk foolishly, I return the favor.

I can't seem to have a decent discussion about the guy because his fans totally FREAK OUT!

Yeah, I have to commend Tupperware on his level-headed approach to the subject of Tony Romo and his discussion with you.

I don't necessarily agree with you in every point (some points I do agree with), but I don't see red because you criticize Romo.

 

[DallasDomination]

we beat the 49ers and were a a play or two away from winning the NFC east and you guys act like our team is an embarrassment--and don't give me any of that "win the SB or you are a loser" crap. We were an 8-8 team from start to finish, about where we should be, in the process of making big changes (OL revamping)which hopefully will continue next year on defense.

This is how jerry will look at it. Well we beat the niners and could of should of beat the Giants. Thanks for making us feel better with the silver lining of the year.

We beat 1 team with a winning record, and went 8-8 in the easiest schedule Dallas has seen in the last 10 years. So yes, we are an embarrassment.

 

[tyke1doe]

I guess you missed several plays that should have been picks by the player you are slobbering over.

Just like in the SB when on the last drive he put one right in the hands of Samuels- and he drops it.*

Ah, the shoulda, woulda, coulda game. :laugh2:

The Cowboys shoulda be in the Super Bowl if... (insert any hypothetical scenario) :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

*He didn't put one in the hands of Samuel. He puts it up high, Samuel has to jump to get it and doesn't pull it down.

 

[tyke1doe]

BS. As has been pointed out by several posters, Eli is incredibly lucky. He has had picks dropped in all of his big games.

Too bad Romo doesn't have his interceptions dropped. Why, he'd be just like Eli if he did. :laugh2:

Yeah, right.

 

[ufcrules1]

This is how jerry will look at it. Well we beat the niners and could of should of beat the Giants. Thanks for making us feel better with the silver lining of the year.

We beat 1 team with a winning record, and went 8-8 in the easiest schedule Dallas has seen in the last 10 years. So yes, we are an embarrassment.

Yup, completely agree with you. This year was an embarrassment. Next year we get a ridiculously hard schedule.

It's looking like another 8-8 season next year.


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[tyke1doe]

It's never Romo's fault is what you are telling me?

He's basically saying that Romo is average. If Romo can't win unless everything around him is perfect, that means he's average.