Top 5 QB's in the NFL and here's my opinion why, what's your's?

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Here's my list of the top 5 QB's with what they have that makes them special and where they rank in my opinion as their careers stand currently in Today's NFL:

1. Peyton Manning: Coach's mind/game management, leadership, throwing power/needle thin accuracy, creativity, superior play calling flexibilty, can bring you back from behind, soon to be all time greatest QB production, definite Hall of Famer, huge IT factor.

2. Tom Brady: Unmatched/legendary composure, leadership, unmatched game management, throwing power/needle thin accuracy, Absolute Ace and no better closer in the NFL today and 2nd to Montana ever, can bring you back from behind, heart and knack for championships, definite Hall of Famer, huge IT Factor.

3. Tony Romo: No one is better at making something out of a nothing play at the QB position today and 2nd to Favre all time in this regard currently, unique combination of Arm strength/Accuracy/Mobility/Game and play recognition/Ball Release, Best at throwing on the run and devistating when given time in the pocket, Becoming one of the best game manager's, Unmatched confidence and charisma, top 5 composure and can bring you back from behind, Outstanding at nailing hot blonde celebrities but must prove focus on NFL big stage (not something that helps his NFL stock and therefore needs more maturity, it's growing), Exceptional creativity and big play ability, "IT" factor, still lot's of potential as current body of work show's incredible stats in such a short period of time.

4. Ben Roethsliberger: Cannon for an arm, accurate, born leader, Youthful yet very decorated for a short body of work, Starter and game manager from day one, Super tough, Composure, Consistent, Accurate, Exceptional under pressure, Is an already top tier player at QB and will only get better, WIll be a very good player for a very long time. Won a championship in his 2nd season starting, Very productive error free QB

5. Carson Palmer: Cannon for an arm, Accurate, good game manager, minimal errors, will tear a D apart with adequate time in the pocket, can outright control a game from the pocket with a minimal running game. Mature, composed, with the right team definitely top 3 talent, Great production.


** Honorable Mention: Drew Brees (weak arm), Donovan McNabb (Durability issues, but also uncanny combination of arm strength/accuracy/mobility) Brett Favre (3 time MVP, Most productive yet errored QB in history of NFL, Sure fire Hall of Famer, unmatched durability and heart, a champion/playing legend, currently productive but getting up there in age, is not as dynamic asonce was, stillputs fear in a defense with his unmatched cannon arm.)

Please share your lists and/or opinions and why.
 

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The only problem I have is with Ben. There are a few other QB's I would put in his spot. I'll catch heat for it but I would even put Farve there. The one I feel you are missing is Brees though.
 

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ABQcowboyJR;2251286 said:
The only problem I have is with Ben. There are a few other QB's I would put in his spot. I'll catch heat for it but I would even put Farve there. The one I feel you are missing is Brees though.

I like Brees too and that's why I had him first on honorable mention. The reason why I didn't have him in top 5 is because he gets very hot and then cold. As most QB's, he relies heavily on a strong running game and passes to the flats as his deep ball doesn't scare defenses, therefore opposing teams can game plan easier for him. What do you think of Romo as # 3? I'm hoping I can get him up to # 2 or #1 by end of season without getting flack ;-).
 

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AKATheRake;2251310 said:
I like Brees too and that's why I had him first on honorable mention. The reason why I didn't have him in top 5 is because he gets very hot and then cold. As most QB's, he relies heavily on a strong running game and passes to the flats as his deep ball doesn't scare defenses, therefore opposing teams can game plan easier for him. What do you think of Romo as # 3? I'm hoping I can get him up to # 2 or #1 by end of season without getting flack ;-).
I think the only way you can really justify putting him at two is if he wins a SB and keeps pace with Manning this year. I feel like you should have Brady at the top and Manning at two. The factor that is gonna put Romo over Manning is the ability to make a play and be clutch.
 

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ABQcowboyJR;2251324 said:
I think the only way you can really justify putting him at two is if he wins a SB and keeps pace with Manning this year. I feel like you should have Brady at the top and Manning at two. The factor that is gonna put Romo over Manning is the ability to make a play and be clutch.

Totally agree with your assessment on Romo possibly superseeding Manning at # 2. I keep Manning # 1 because 4 out of the last 5 years he's been #1 and I know Brady is hurt. Manning also had no defense for the longest time, but yes had more offensive weapons until last year. 3 SB rings though is really what counts beyond the personal stats. I was going to put Brady but the injury, who knows how he will recover. That team is also losing it's windowsince it's soold. Thanks for your feedback, I respect your football knowledge.
 

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why does Palmer always get a pass? he's been very very mediocre for awhile now. Highly over rated imho.
 

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Drew Brees puts up numbers year in and year out yet he still gets no respect and has bums in the top 5 over him Carson Palmer sucks he hasn't been the same since he got injured against Pitt. Ben is alright wouldn't give him top 5.

here's my type five

Manning
Brady
Romo
Bress
Warner
 

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Nexx;2251356 said:
why does Palmer always get a pass? he's been very very mediocre for awhile now. Highly over rated imho.
I feel it is because of where he plays. He has already show cased that he can be premier. You are right in the sense that he has not been sharp as of late. I guess the next two seasons will reveal all we need to know about him.
 

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ABQcowboyJR;2251368 said:
I feel it is because of where he plays. He has already show cased that he can be premier. You are right in the sense that he has not been sharp as of late. I guess the next two seasons will reveal all we need to know about him.

He was good at a time and now he isn't it happens to a lot of players in the league that doesn't mean he still should be considered a top 5 QB based off of past accolades. He threw for 99 yards in his first game and they sucked really bad.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2251380 said:
He was good at a time and now he isn't it happens to a lot of players in the league that doesn't mean he still should be considered a top 5 QB based off of past accolades. He threw for 99 yards in his first game and they sucked really bad.
I understand where your coming from, but in that case maybe you have to start looking at the supporting cast.
 

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ABQcowboyJR;2251385 said:
I understand where your coming from, but in that case maybe you have to start looking at the supporting cast.

ah c'mon I don't want to hear that. Chad Johnson and Houshmansada and he still put up bad numbers last year. Each QB in the top 5 has at least one pro bowl WR including Palmers he just haven't been getting it done.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2251359 said:
Drew Brees puts up numbers year in and year out yet he still gets no respect and has bums in the top 5 over him Carson Palmer sucks he hasn't been the same since he got injured against Pitt. Ben is alright wouldn't give him top 5.

here's my type five

Manning
Brady
Romo
Bress
Warner

Imagine putting Carson Palmer on a team with a running game. He does have an excellent receiving core but Chad Johnson is not as good as advertised and T.J is more reliable than explosive/game changing. I regards to Brees, you are right on him getting looked over and that's why I have him basically top 6. If Roethlisberger or Palmer are in the NO offense or the Chargers offense Brees had there would be no drop in their production compared to Brees' past. Palmer every game has to take that whole team on his shoulders because of no running game and no defense. Roethlisberger had a great season last year, very comparable to Brees current and past, is younger, has a better arm and has won a championship, so that experience is key come playoff time. I'd take Ben over Brees in a playoff game any day and that's why I think people like myself rate Ben higher. No doubting Brees is good and underrated though, he's a team player too. Can be game planned for though because of his arm.
 

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AKATheRake;2251279 said:
Here's my list of the top 5 QB's with what they have that makes them special and where they rank in my opinion as their careers stand currently in Today's NFL:

1. Peyton Manning: Coach's mind/game management, leadership, throwing power/needle thin accuracy, creativity, superior play calling flexibilty, can bring you back from behind, soon to be all time greatest QB production, definite Hall of Famer, huge IT factor.

2. Tom Brady: Unmatched/legendary composure, leadership, unmatched game management, throwing power/needle thin accuracy, Absolute Ace and no better closer in the NFL today and 2nd to Montana ever, can bring you back from behind, heart and knack for championships, definite Hall of Famer, huge IT Factor.

3. Tony Romo: No one is better at making something out of a nothing play at the QB position today and 2nd to Favre all time in this regard currently, unique combination of Arm strength/Accuracy/Mobility/Game and play recognition/Ball Release, Best at throwing on the run and devistating when given time in the pocket, Becoming one of the best game manager's, Unmatched confidence and charisma, top 5 composure and can bring you back from behind, Outstanding at nailing hot blonde celebrities but must prove focus on NFL big stage (not something that helps his NFL stock and therefore needs more maturity, it's growing), Exceptional creativity and big play ability, "IT" factor, still lot's of potential as current body of work show's incredible stats in such a short period of time.

4. Ben Roethsliberger: Cannon for an arm, accurate, born leader, Youthful yet very decorated for a short body of work, Starter and game manager from day one, Super tough, Composure, Consistent, Accurate, Exceptional under pressure, Is an already top tier player at QB and will only get better, WIll be a very good player for a very long time. Won a championship in his 2nd season starting, Very productive error free QB

5. Carson Palmer: Cannon for an arm, Accurate, good game manager, minimal errors, will tear a D apart with adequate time in the pocket, can outright control a game from the pocket with a minimal running game. Mature, composed, with the right team definitely top 3 talent, Great production.


** Honorable Mention: Drew Brees (weak arm), Donovan McNabb (Durability issues, but also uncanny combination of arm strength/accuracy/mobility) Brett Favre (3 time MVP, Most productive yet errored QB in history of NFL, Sure fire Hall of Famer, unmatched durability and heart, a champion/playing legend, currently productive but getting up there in age, is not as dynamic asonce was, stillputs fear in a defense with his unmatched cannon arm.)

Please share your lists and/or opinions and why.


my list...

1st level

manning
brady
romo
favre
mcnabb (if he could stay healthy he would be in a 3 way tie for 3)

--------brees right at the brink

palmer (use to be 1st level)
ben rothelisberger (cant spell it dont feel like lookin it up)
 

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AKATheRake;2251396 said:
Imagine putting Carson Palmer on a team with a running game. He does have an excellent receiving core but Chad Johnson is not as good as advertised and T.J is more reliable than explosive/game changing. I regards to Brees, you are right on him getting looked over and that's why I have him basically top 6. If Roethlisberger or Palmer are in the NO offense or the Chargers offense Brees had there would be no drop in their production compared to Brees' past. Palmer every game has to take that whole team on his shoulders because of no running game and no defense. Roethlisberger had a great season last year, very comparable to Brees current and past, is younger, has a better arm and has won a championship, so that experience is key come playoff time. I'd take Ben over Brees in a playoff game any day and that's why I think people like myself rate Ben higher. No doubting Brees is good and underrated though, he's a team player too. Can be game planned for though because of his arm.

I don't understand these excuse for Carson Palmer. A successful running game doesn't always breed success at the QB position ask Tarvsis Jackson also ask Matt Hassleback and Drew Bress. If you think Romo Brady or Manning put up numbers like they did because of their running game you're mistaken. I just think your coming up with excuses for some ones poor play where it isn't warranted or needed.
 

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thechosen1n2;2251399 said:
my list...

1st level

manning
brady
romo
favre
mcnabb (if he could stay healthy he would be in a 3 way tie for 3)

--------brees right at the brink

palmer (use to be 1st level)
ben rothelisberger (cant spell it dont feel like lookin it up)


I agree, if McNabb could stay healthy he is as dynamic as any. Palmer's stats aren't as bad as people are letting on and it is that garbage team he plays for that is holding back a player with tremendous talent. Palmer has never whined about that team either and has been a class act. Like I said, put him on a team like the Chargers, Dallas, Indy, NE, NO, heck Cleveland and you would have no problem with him being top 5.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2251414 said:
I don't understand these excuse for Carson Palmer. A successful running game doesn't always breed success at the QB position ask Tarvsis Jackson also ask Matt Hassleback and Drew Bress. If you think Romo Brady or Manning put up numbers like they did because of their running game you're mistaken. I just think your coming up with excuses for some ones poor play where it isn't warranted or needed.
You cannot throw the ball all day and expect to win. The running game does not make a QB but if you don't have it it can tear one down.
 

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ABQcowboyJR;2251404 said:
His stats are really not that bad. The team just has a problem winning.

his last season stats were terrible considering the numbers he put up and this season he continued the trend. He put up Eli manning type numbers last year.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2251423 said:
his last season stats were terrible considering the numbers he put up and this season he continued the trend. He put up Eli manning type numbers last year.
They are bad in comparison to the season before. That in itself is showcasing how good of a QB he is though.
 
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