Trade out of 4 and net another second round pick

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1 Ezekiel Elliott, RB, 6 #225 Ohio State
Elliott is extremely well-rounded as a runner with ideal size for the position along with coordinated footwork that is always in sync with his eyes. He runs with natural pad level and fantastic forward lean, using his balance, leg drive and relentless fight to move the chains and pick up every inch he can. Plays with a strong intensity for the game

2a Kenny Clark, DT, 6-3 #315 UCLA
He was a high school wrestling champ, and many of those maneuvers translate from the mat to the football field, playing with low hips, leverage and power. He's a stout run defender who comes off the ball low and hard, consistently winning the leverage battle. Anchors well to double teams, planting his feet into the turf and locking out his arms. Clark flashes a quick burst but doesn't rely on it, exploding through the gap to wreak havoc at the line of scrimmage when opponents attempt to pull to block others.Asked to play defensive end, defensive tackle and nose guard for the Bruins, Clark will enter the NFL with plenty of position and schematic versatility.

2b Connor Cook, QB, 6-4, #220 Mich State
Possesses ideal size for the next level with the build to take consistent punishment, including as a short-yardage rusher with his deceiving athleticism. Cook scans the entire field and is a confident passer to all levels, showing touch, anticipation and toughness in the pocket. He has effortless arm strength when he steps into his throws with proper mechanics and torque through his hips to deliver the proper trajectory on downfield passes. Mastered Michigan State's offense, firing quick passes underneath with the ability to thread the needle on deeper sideline throws. Has excellent experience, and his poise in key situations has improved throughout his career.

3 Joe Haeg, OT, 6-6 #305 North Dakota State
An athletic mover with a smooth lateral shuffle off the snap and the range to easily reach the perimeter, blocking outside the numbers and at the second level. He squares well to his target and carries his weight well, displaying terrific reaction quickness to handle secondary moves. Also shows excellent vision to recognize multiple pressures and communicate with his teammates to have every rusher accounted for on the left side of the line

4 Karl Joseph, SS, 5-11 #200 West Virginia
Pound-for-pound one of the most physical players in the country, Joseph doesn't have ideal size, but he plays much bigger and tougher than he looks. He loves violent contact and times his hits well to jar the ball loose, accounting for eight forced fumbles over his career

4 C Paul McRoberts, WR, 6-2 #205 Southeast Missouti State
He was a first team All-Ohio Valley Conference player by the media after catching 76 passes for 940 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 12.4 yards per catch in 2015. McRoberts broke Southeast's all-time career record in receiving touchdowns (29) and had four 100-yard receiving games He also compiled 162 yards on 14 punt returns, including a 69-yard return for a touchdown. McRoberts finished his Southeast career with 2,435 receiving yards, third-most in school history

6 Anthony Zettel, DE/DT, 6-4 #280 Penn State
Lining up at several positions on the defensive line for Penn State, Zettel is a disruptive penetrator with a versatile skill-set to win with power and/or quickness off the snap. A defensive end when he arrived in Happy Valley, he added 25 pounds of muscle and moved inside for his junior season, giving the Nittany Lions and interior rush presence. No player in the Big Ten had as many tackles for loss as Joey Bosa (21.5) in 2014, but Zettel was the closest with 17 stops behind the line of scrimmage, adding 42 tackles, 8.0 sacks, three interceptions and eight passes defended. Zettel was often overshadowed in 2015 by his defensive line teammates Austin Johnson and Carl Nassib, finishing seventh on the team with 47 tackles, including 11.0 tackles for loss and 4.0 sacks. He also finished with six pass break-ups and six passes defended.

6c Matt Judon, DE, 6-3 #255 Grand Valley State
Set records at Grand Valley State and led the nation in sacks last season, is now looking to prove he belongs in the NFL. The defensive end, whose 20 sacks was the best among in all college football

6c Cre'von LeBlanc, CB, 5-10 #195 Florida Atlantic
Shows off his versatility in coverage and as a run defender. Has an excellent understanding of field leverage. Protects against inside routes and forces receivers to stay outside. Does a nice job staying in phase with receivers, using patient feet in his transition to press, sink and run vertically. In run support, strings runs outside and forces ballcarriers to the sideline. High competitive nature

6c Nick Kwiatkoski, ILB, 6-2 #245 West Virginia
A former safety who has built himself into an All-Big 12 linebacker, Kwiatkoski has made a career out of exceeding expectations. With his relatively slim frame, Kwiatkoski doesn't necessarily look the part of a classic inside linebacker but he's instinctive, athletic and physical. At the very least, he could emerge as a quality special teamer and with greater strength at the point of attack, could surprise as much more.
 

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1 Ezekiel Elliott, RB, 6 #225 Ohio State
Elliott is extremely well-rounded as a runner with ideal size for the position along with coordinated footwork that is always in sync with his eyes. He runs with natural pad level and fantastic forward lean, using his balance, leg drive and relentless fight to move the chains and pick up every inch he can. Plays with a strong intensity for the game

2a Kenny Clark, DT, 6-3 #315 UCLA
He was a high school wrestling champ, and many of those maneuvers translate from the mat to the football field, playing with low hips, leverage and power. He's a stout run defender who comes off the ball low and hard, consistently winning the leverage battle. Anchors well to double teams, planting his feet into the turf and locking out his arms. Clark flashes a quick burst but doesn't rely on it, exploding through the gap to wreak havoc at the line of scrimmage when opponents attempt to pull to block others.Asked to play defensive end, defensive tackle and nose guard for the Bruins, Clark will enter the NFL with plenty of position and schematic versatility.

2b Connor Cook, QB, 6-4, #220 Mich State
Possesses ideal size for the next level with the build to take consistent punishment, including as a short-yardage rusher with his deceiving athleticism. Cook scans the entire field and is a confident passer to all levels, showing touch, anticipation and toughness in the pocket. He has effortless arm strength when he steps into his throws with proper mechanics and torque through his hips to deliver the proper trajectory on downfield passes. Mastered Michigan State's offense, firing quick passes underneath with the ability to thread the needle on deeper sideline throws. Has excellent experience, and his poise in key situations has improved throughout his career.

3 Joe Haeg, OT, 6-6 #305 North Dakota State
An athletic mover with a smooth lateral shuffle off the snap and the range to easily reach the perimeter, blocking outside the numbers and at the second level. He squares well to his target and carries his weight well, displaying terrific reaction quickness to handle secondary moves. Also shows excellent vision to recognize multiple pressures and communicate with his teammates to have every rusher accounted for on the left side of the line

4 Karl Joseph, SS, 5-11 #200 West Virginia
Pound-for-pound one of the most physical players in the country, Joseph doesn't have ideal size, but he plays much bigger and tougher than he looks. He loves violent contact and times his hits well to jar the ball loose, accounting for eight forced fumbles over his career

4 C Paul McRoberts, WR, 6-2 #205 Southeast Missouti State
He was a first team All-Ohio Valley Conference player by the media after catching 76 passes for 940 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 12.4 yards per catch in 2015. McRoberts broke Southeast's all-time career record in receiving touchdowns (29) and had four 100-yard receiving games He also compiled 162 yards on 14 punt returns, including a 69-yard return for a touchdown. McRoberts finished his Southeast career with 2,435 receiving yards, third-most in school history

6 Anthony Zettel, DE/DT, 6-4 #280 Penn State
Lining up at several positions on the defensive line for Penn State, Zettel is a disruptive penetrator with a versatile skill-set to win with power and/or quickness off the snap. A defensive end when he arrived in Happy Valley, he added 25 pounds of muscle and moved inside for his junior season, giving the Nittany Lions and interior rush presence. No player in the Big Ten had as many tackles for loss as Joey Bosa (21.5) in 2014, but Zettel was the closest with 17 stops behind the line of scrimmage, adding 42 tackles, 8.0 sacks, three interceptions and eight passes defended. Zettel was often overshadowed in 2015 by his defensive line teammates Austin Johnson and Carl Nassib, finishing seventh on the team with 47 tackles, including 11.0 tackles for loss and 4.0 sacks. He also finished with six pass break-ups and six passes defended.

6c Matt Judon, DE, 6-3 #255 Grand Valley State
Set records at Grand Valley State and led the nation in sacks last season, is now looking to prove he belongs in the NFL. The defensive end, whose 20 sacks was the best among in all college football

6c Cre'von LeBlanc, CB, 5-10 #195 Florida Atlantic
Shows off his versatility in coverage and as a run defender. Has an excellent understanding of field leverage. Protects against inside routes and forces receivers to stay outside. Does a nice job staying in phase with receivers, using patient feet in his transition to press, sink and run vertically. In run support, strings runs outside and forces ballcarriers to the sideline. High competitive nature

6c Nick Kwiatkoski, ILB, 6-2 #245 West Virginia
A former safety who has built himself into an All-Big 12 linebacker, Kwiatkoski has made a career out of exceeding expectations. With his relatively slim frame, Kwiatkoski doesn't necessarily look the part of a classic inside linebacker but he's instinctive, athletic and physical. At the very least, he could emerge as a quality special teamer and with greater strength at the point of attack, could surprise as much more.

You picked Cook over Dak? Why?
 

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South Carolina State's Javon Hargrave were big winners, more than measuring up to their more well-known peers.
Judon was the most impressive of the three, demonstrating the combination of speed (4.73 seconds in the 40), explosiveness (35-inch vertical) and power (30 reps) that helped him lead all of college football with 20 sacks last season, earning the Gene Upshaw Award as the top lineman at the Division II level.

Like Judon, Hargrave dominated the lower level, registering 29.5 sacks over the past two seasons -- a staggering number for a defensive tackle. The 6-foot-1, 309 pound Hargrave was the best player at the East-West Shrine Game and fared well as a late call-up to the Senior Bowl as well. The power he used to bull rush through opponents into the backfield was quantified this weekend with 29 reps, but his speed (4.93) excited scouts most.
He might get had in the fourth but I think 3rd
I like this guy
 
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We can get more than just 1 additional 2nd round pick by trading down.
We could get 2 2nd's from the Rams, as well as swapping 1st's. This would put us at #15 overall, and still possibly get Elliot.

I do like some of the picks, especially Elliot. Though many of these later round picks I do not know anything about. But that will be true with 98% of any mock draft from any person, rather a guru or not.
You did pick 3 DL and 2 CB, areas of need. But I also think LB would be addressed earlier. Depending FA of course. Maybe use the pick earlier for a LB and later for a WR.

Wouldn't mind cook at QB if they do not go QB in the 1st. I like him over Prescott, as was posted asking why not Prescott.
I seen Zettel play some, I liked what I seen from those few games.
 

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What we do in the draft is going to largely determined by what we do in free agency
 

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That would be 1 god awful draft...

1st round RB= no way
2nd round DT with very little pass rush ability, no thanks.
Connor Cook- Yuck
Haeg- let's replace the RT we drafted last year before he touches the field?

You'd have to try pretty hard to find a realistic 1st 4 picks I would like less....and where are you trading down to take Elliot where you are only receiving 1 2nd?If we are going to pass on a possible franchise QB or an elite defensive prospect for a RB there better be a literal boat load of picks coming with it.
 

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That would be 1 god awful draft...

1st round RB= no way
2nd round DT with very little pass rush ability, no thanks.
Connor Cook- Yuck
Haeg- let's replace the RT we drafted last year before he touches the field? -

You'd have to try pretty hard to find a realistic 1st 4 picks I would like less....and where are you trading down to take Elliot where you are only receiving 1 2nd?If we are going to pass on a possible franchise QB or an elite defensive prospect for a RB there better be a literal boat load of picks coming with it.

elite defensive prospect - I don't see any

Cook went 34-5 as Michigan State's starting quarterback the past three seasons, including 5-2 against top 10 teams, and O'Connor made it clear he expects Cook to continue his winning ways.

"Y'all can look for dirt, or reasons not to appreciate CC," O'Connor wrote, "it won't stop him from winning."
 

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I know about the picks - but I don't know the formal for trading picks

so I keep it simple
 

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because Cook can actually play

my opinion on Dak WHY ? AN YUCK

I'd be so pissed a taking DAK

I am not bullish on Prescott but I think it's highly debateable that Cook can "actually play".

1) He never had a completion percentage over 60% at MSU. So he's not a very accurate QB.

2) His 5-2 record against Top 10 teams is a deceptive stat when you actually dig into those games:

#4 Iowa (W) - Dec 2015 - He was dreadful and finished with a 33 QBR in that game. He did everything to lose that game, the MSU D saved him.
#7 Oregon (W) - Sept 2015 - He was decent that game. Finished with a QB rating of 127 in that game.
#2 Bama (L) - Jan 2016 - He was woeful in that game.
#3 Oregon (L) - Sept 2014 - Decent game, QB rating of 128 that game.
#4 Baylor (W) - Jan 2015 - Decent game, QB rating again of 127.

So in the last two seasons, he's played anywhere from awful to decent in their best games. The only times he played really, exceptionally well against Top 10 teams happened 3 seasons ago when he played well in back to back games against OSU and Stanford.
 

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Like the strategy, Mehh on the picks. I want to trade down but in the second I want whatever QB, 1 Tech and/or RB is at the top of the draft board.
 

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elite defensive prospect - I don't see any

Cook went 34-5 as Michigan State's starting quarterback the past three seasons, including 5-2 against top 10 teams, and O'Connor made it clear he expects Cook to continue his winning ways.

"Y'all can look for dirt, or reasons not to appreciate CC," O'Connor wrote, "it won't stop him from winning."

He won college games in the Big 10 AND his backup QB said he's going to be good?!?! Gee golly where do I sign up? We should just pick him at 4!
 
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When it comes to the QB position, my only interest is in a franchise guy. There are only 2, or maybe 3 of those in this draft. I don't see any of the others having that kind of potential. If your scouts say there are no franchise QB's, close the book on them and pick other positions.

So if your not taking one a #4, forget it. Draft defense and hope Romo survives another year. I am not interested in the next Cousins or Tannehill.
 

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When it comes to the QB position, my only interest is in a franchise guy. There are only 2, or maybe 3 of those in this draft. I don't see any of the others having that kind of potential. If your scouts say there are no franchise QB's, close the book on them and pick other positions.

So if your not taking one a #4, forget it. Draft defense and hope Romo survives another year. I am not interested in the next Cousins or Tannehill.

oh I rather have Wentz or Goff also but the brain trust already said Romo can play another 5 years
 
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oh I rather have Wentz or Goff also but the brain trust already said Romo can play another 5 years

I see you use the term "brain trust" loosely. :)

I know what they have said. But I'm just going to close my eyes, plug my ears and hope they are blowing smoke.
 

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oh I rather have Wentz or Goff also but the brain trust already said Romo can play another 5 years

Let'ss say we draft either of the top two QB' and the brain trust is wrong

any way Zeek doesn't disturb me as we're looking for difference makers and he will be.

I've heard too many negs about Connor's attitude ,I doesn't seem like his a franchise guy.
I have a question, if we're investing in lower ranked QB's can we find one like around the fourth round?


Replace the Connor pick it with Vonn Bell

by the way bodi I appreciate your time and effort
we're just discussing
 
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