Trading Down Mock - DEFENSE

[Biggems]

Waiting till the 3rd round to get a RB is risky, I would really prefer a RB no later than pick 60. I just don't trust McFadden and company to handle the load. Ideally, I would prefer either Coleman or the Boise kid at pick 60, but the rest of your mock looks pretty good.

RB is not a big need, not as big as many of you want to believe. I would be happy with this many RBs in the draft....0

 

[ColeBeasley11]

I really like Williams and Jarrett. Both are very solid picks.

Randall I like, but I'd probably rather take Eric Rowe as a FS prospect if he was there. I might would go RB at 60, depending on who was there.

Davis is growing on me and Heeney is a solid enough LB prospect for the 4th round.

Havenstein is not one of my favorites. I don't think he fits with what Dallas likes to do on their OL.

Frank Clark is a favorite late round pick of mine... particularly since his charges of assault and domestic violence have been reduced down to disorderly conduct. The problem is with that being reduced he will likely go before the 7th round now... and even if he doesn't, someone who picks before Dallas in the 7th will have the same idea of taking him in the last round and giving him a shot.

With no 6th, it looks like Dallas might would have to use their 5th on him at the latest.

Thanks for the input appreciate it....I like other OT's too but i figured they'd be long gone. How about Frank Clarke in the fifth instead? We really need another solid young DE. Also regarding Randall I read we view him as the best safety in the class, Rowe looks real good too tho i'd be happy with either.

 

[Idgit]

Who would be your targets? I like Buck Allen and Yeldon a lot. Heard a lot of good things about Davis on the board.

I like a lot of them. Ajayi and Johnson are probably my favorites. Yeldon makes alot of sense, too.

 

[Beast_from_East]

RB is not a big need, not as big as many of you want to believe. I would be happy with this many RBs in the draft....0

I beg to differ my friend, I don't think you just replace the league's leading rusher with McFadden and call it a day.

The fact that every RB under that sun that is any good has been brought in for a visit tells me the team thinks RB is a huge need. We have had like 5 RBs out of 22 visits. Dallas does not bring in guys for visits just for the hell of it, over 8 guys that have come in for visits have been drafted over the last couple of seasons so this is basically our draft pool we are talking about.

Hence, if over 20% of your draft pool is RBs, I think it is safe to say the team views that position as a huge need. Has there been any other position with that many players visiting? I don't think so.

 

[AsthmaField]

Thanks for the input appreciate it....I like other OT's too but i figured they'd be long gone. How about Frank Clarke in the fifth instead? We really need another solid young DE. Also regarding Randall I read we view him as the best safety in the class, Rowe looks real good too tho i'd be happy with either.

You're right about the team liking Randall and I would imagine they'd take him before Rowe.

 

[jnday]

RB is not a big need, not as big as many of you want to believe. I would be happy with this many RBs in the draft....0

You have got to be kidding. 95% of last season's success was due to a very good running game provided by a very good oline and a good RB. The RB is gone. So you want to go back to the average seasons with 8-8 records? RB by committee is not an answer and the low quality talent at the RB position that is already on the roster would be a disaster if counted on to carry the season. All the work that it took to make this a dominant running team would be wasted. Dallas needs the best RB available to carry the load and keep the running game at the same level. If not, the defense will be exposed for the average unit it is and the offense will be exposed when all the pressure comes down squarely on Romo's shoulders. I can't understand why some fans can't see that a dominant running team needs a dominant RB. This oline is not good enough for any RB to produce at a high level and the defense will be exposed time and time again after staying on the field for s large part of the game. Make no mistake, nothing will be gained by taking the team's strength and making it a weakness.

 

[Biggems]

You have got to be kidding. 95% of last season's success was due to a very good running game provided by a very good oline and a good RB. The RB is gone. So you want to go back to the average seasons with 8-8 records? RB by committee is not an answer and the low quality talent at the RB position that is already on the roster would be a disaster if counted on to carry the season. All the work that it took to make this a dominant running team would be wasted. Dallas needs the best RB available to carry the load and keep the running game at the same level. If not, the defense will be exposed for the average unit it is and the offense will be exposed when all the pressure comes down squarely on Romo's shoulders. I can't understand why some fans can't see that a dominant running team needs a dominant RB. This oline is not good enough for any RB to produce at a high level and the defense will be exposed time and time again after staying on the field for s large part of the game. Make no mistake, nothing will be gained by taking the team's strength and making it a weakness.

Well, I firmly believe with Williams, Randall, McFadden, and Dunbar......we have enough to have a 2000+ yd season from the combined 4. That is over 100 yds a game and a good amount of ball control.

 

[dallasdave]

Good mock and players but I don't see DT being drafted.

I agree no Dt, it's going to RB or CB

 

[JoeyBoy718]

The way it's shaping up, I'm almost certain we go CB in the 1st and RB in the 2nd. There's only one (Gurley) RB worthy of a 1st round pick -- maybe two (Gordon) -- but there are a lot of CBs I think we'd be willing to take in the 1st. So if Gurley is off the board, I see us going CB in the 1st and the best RB in the 2nd. I was hoping we'd go DT in the 1st but I just don't see that happening.

 

[AsthmaField]

The way it's shaping up, I'm almost certain we go CB in the 1st and RB in the 2nd. There's only one (Gurley) RB worthy of a 1st round pick -- maybe two (Gordon) -- but there are a lot of CBs I think we'd be willing to take in the 1st. So if Gurley is off the board, I see us going CB in the 1st and the best RB in the 2nd. I was hoping we'd go DT in the 1st but I just don't see that happening.

I think they could take a DT in the 3rd on, but I agree early... I don't see a DT at 27.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I think they could take a DT in the 3rd on, but I agree early... I don't see a DT at 27.

I'd like Malcolm Brown or Danny Shelton in the 1st, but even if they fell to us, I don't know if we'd take them. I could see us trading back since teams would be excited to draft those guys late in the 1st. I just don't see us getting a 320+ lb DT. The only guy close to that on our roster is Brent and I think he's here because of Jerry, not Marinelli. I think a more likely guy would be someone like Grady Jarrett in the 3rd. Not an elite talent but a 300 lb true 1-tech and hopefully good enough to compete for a starting job. I think a guy like Carl Davis has more talent but I don't think we'd spend a high pick on a guy with questionable passion.

 

[AsthmaField]

I'd like Malcolm Brown or Danny Shelton in the 1st, but even if they fell to us, I don't know if we'd take them. I could see us trading back since teams would be excited to draft those guys late in the 1st. I just don't see us getting a 320+ lb DT. The only guy close to that on our roster is Brent and I think he's here because of Jerry, not Marinelli. I think a more likely guy would be someone like Grady Jarrett in the 3rd. Not an elite talent but a 300 lb true 1-tech and hopefully good enough to compete for a starting job. I think a guy like Carl Davis has more talent but I don't think we'd spend a high pick on a guy with questionable passion.

When I said I could see a 3rd (or later) being used on a DT... Jarrett was the exact guy I had in mind. I think he would be a very good prospect for Marinelli to work with. I'm with you on Davis too... I don't think they would want him.

 

[Derinyar]

I'd like Malcolm Brown or Danny Shelton in the 1st, but even if they fell to us, I don't know if we'd take them. I could see us trading back since teams would be excited to draft those guys late in the 1st. I just don't see us getting a 320+ lb DT. The only guy close to that on our roster is Brent and I think he's here because of Jerry, not Marinelli. I think a more likely guy would be someone like Grady Jarrett in the 3rd. Not an elite talent but a 300 lb true 1-tech and hopefully good enough to compete for a starting job. I think a guy like Carl Davis has more talent but I don't think we'd spend a high pick on a guy with questionable passion.

I'm thinking that Brown might actually be an option for us. I don't think we value the 1 tech, because most 1 tech's don't have any pass rush ability. I think Brown does, at least a modicum of it.

I've seen Jarret mentioned as a 1 tech a couple of times on this board. The other places I've read about him seem to think he's an undersized 3 based on what he was in college. He's added some weight since the fall so maybe he is, but I'm curious why you see him as a 1 as opposed to a rotational 3.