Trading down to #15 and the value of #4 pick??

[Verdict]

What compensation do you think the Cowboys would require of the Rams to move down to #15? I am guessing a king's ransom that would involve at least #15 and next year's first, or maybe the next two first round picks (potentially more.

The first question I have is would we be willing to move down to #15? I think the answer is : "Possibly", if we don't like one of the QBs and there is not someone we are in love with at the position.

Most likely the Rams are somewhat desperate to draft a QB. They would likely need to move ahead of the 49ers and Eagles to get one of the concensus top two.

Ironically, if Cleveland selects a QB at #2 it might actually drive up the value of the #4 pick if the Chargers don't trade back and take a player who is not a QB at #3. That value goes up even more if the QB selected by Cleveland isn't the QB targeted by the team moving up.

San Francisco might be a potential trade partner, but obviously the compensation would be much less to trade down to them. Then again, if the Rams are wanting to move up and pay a kings ransom to trade up, it might drive the cost of moving up for San Fran and require them to overpay to move up. That would probably be a best case scenario for us.

 

[DBOY3141]

Rams need a splash for their new LA home. can't start the 2016 season after 20 years of no football with Case Keenum as your QB.

Need local Cal product Jarad Goff.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What compensation do you think the Cowboys would require of the Rams to move down to #15? I am guessing a king's ransom that would involve at least #15 and next year's first, or maybe the next two first round picks (potentially more.

The first question I have is would we be willing to move down to #15? I think the answer is : "Possibly", if we don't like one of the QBs and there is not someone we are in love with at the position.

Most likely the Rams are somewhat desperate to draft a QB. They would likely need to move ahead of the 49ers and Eagles to get one of the concensus top two.

Ironically, if Cleveland selects a QB at #2 it might actually drive up the value of the #4 pick if the Chargers don't trade back and take a player who is not a QB at #3. That value goes up even more if the QB selected by Cleveland isn't the QB targeted by the team moving up.

San Francisco might be a potential trade partner, but obviously the compensation would be much less to trade down to them. Then again, if the Rams are wanting to move up and pay a kings ransom to trade up, it might drive the cost of moving up for San Fran and require them to overpay to move up. That would probably be a best case scenario for us.

Not related to this post but I've kinda thought all along that this might be what the team is trying to drive. A trade up. By saying that we are not taking a QB, this kinda sends a message to teams that says, "We are not taking a QB so if you want to trade up...." . I can see no other reason the team would announce such a thing, even if we were not considering a QB.

JMO

 

[superonyx]

I'm not in love with the guys who we would most likely draft at 4. I would be just fine with moving to 15 and picking up an additional first next year. Especially with the Rams who are likely to be bad and the crop of RBs coming out next year.

 

[The Natural]

I don't know how closely team's follow the draft value chart but according to that the Rams would be giving up at minimum their first 3 picks (Rams have two 2nd round picks but would only be trading 1)

 

[DanTanna]

I would have us draft Goff with the agreement that if the Memphis QB is there at 15 we do the trade - Goff for the Rams #15(Memphis QB) and the other future #1s. If the Memphis dude is gone - we keep Goff and never let it leak we were in negotiations. I.smell.superbowel!

 

[DFWJC]

If the Rams wanted Dallas' pick, I think a deal could get done if

Rams get Cowboys' 1st (4) and 4th (101)
Cowboys get Rams' 1st (15) and both 2nd rounders (43 and 45)

 

[Stash]

What compensation do you think the Cowboys would require of the Rams to move down to #15? I am guessing a king's ransom that would involve at least #15 and next year's first, or maybe the next two first round picks (potentially more.

The first question I have is would we be willing to move down to #15? I think the answer is : "Possibly", if we don't like one of the QBs and there is not someone we are in love with at the position.

Most likely the Rams are somewhat desperate to draft a QB. They would likely need to move ahead of the 49ers and Eagles to get one of the concensus top two.

Ironically, if Cleveland selects a QB at #2 it might actually drive up the value of the #4 pick if the Chargers don't trade back and take a player who is not a QB at #3. That value goes up even more if the QB selected by Cleveland isn't the QB targeted by the team moving up.

San Francisco might be a potential trade partner, but obviously the compensation would be much less to trade down to them. Then again, if the Rams are wanting to move up and pay a kings ransom to trade up, it might drive the cost of moving up for San Fran and require them to overpay to move up. That would probably be a best case scenario for us.

I think that your scenario applies even more so for the Chargers than it does for Dallas. I have repeatedly heard that the Chargers are not tied into any one player and are open to moving down.

A team looking to trade up for a quarterback could and would do it there rather than risking the chance of Dallas having the quarterback on their board that they loved and being unwilling to move.

I think that we as Cowboys fans would like for pick #4 to be a windfall, but the #3 pick appears to be significantly more valuable and likely in play too.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

If we feel that one of these QBs is truly a franchise QB, then we better do all we can to get him. Trade up, whatever. But if they're no more special than QBs who come out any year, then I don't see anyone else worth a #4 pick. There are guys just as talented available at 10-20 as who will be around at 4. Best DTs in the draft are expected to go 10-20, edge rushers like Spence and Lawson too, potentially elite WRs, even RB. In my opinion, it's either get a QB by any means possible or trade back and stock up on picks.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

If the Rams wanted Dallas' pick, I think a deal could get done if

Rams gets Cowboys' 1st (4) and 4th (101?)
Cowboys get Rams' 1st (15) and both 2nd rounders (43 and 45)

I'd love that. 4 picks in the top 45.

 

[DFWJC]

I'd love that. 4 picks in the top 45.

Me too.
Dallas would still even have that second 4th rounder and four 6ths too.
Nice

 

[erod]

Yep, I'd do it. Interesting.

 

[LandryFan]

I would have us draft Goff with the agreement that if the Memphis QB is there at 15 we do the trade - Goff for the Rams #15(Memphis QB) and the other future #1s. If the Memphis dude is gone - we keep Goff and never let it leak we were in negotiations. I.smell.superbowel!

 

[Dalmations202]

I just don't see LA giving up both 2nd rounders. I think Dallas would still win, but not by the chart if they swapped 1st with LA and took LA's first 2nd rounder and their 3rd rounder. I know Dallas loses by the chart but that would give them a mid first, 2 -2nds, 2-3rd, and 2-4ths to build with.

 

[canters]

I would have us draft Goff with the agreement that if the Memphis QB is there at 15 we do the trade - Goff for the Rams #15(Memphis QB) and the other future #1s. If the Memphis dude is gone - we keep Goff and never let it leak we were in negotiations. I.smell.superbowel!

Brilliant, I like it.

 

[Chuck 54]

The Cowboys might like trade offers, but I have no doubt they'd do backflips if QBs were taken at #2 and #3 after Tunsil at #1. Ramsey would be an awesome get at #4.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If the Rams wanted Dallas' pick, I think a deal could get done if

Rams get Cowboys' 1st (4) and 4th (101)
Cowboys get Rams' 1st (15) and both 2nd rounders (43 and 45)

15, 34, 43, 45, and 67. Interesting.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I'd love that. 4 picks in the top 45.

I'm down with that as long as Lynch is part of the 4 picks.

 

[Kaiser]

Rams need a splash for their new LA home. can't start the 2016 season after 20 years of no football with Case Keenum as your QB.

Need local Cal product Jarad Goff.

I'd love to see the Rams overpay but I live in LA and very few people here give a rats hiney about the Rams.

EDIT - then again, I might be making your point for you. The Angels overpaid Luis Pujols by a ton so they could highlight him in their local marketing campaign, Goff might be the same thing.

 

[Rogerthat12]

15, 34, 43, 45, and 67. Interesting.

You could do some damage right there...