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At another board (basketball board) we are ranking the top 20 players in the league based on The Sporting News article from a week ago or so.
Top 20
1) Walter Jones
2) Peyton Manning
3) Tom Brady
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson
5) Steve Smith
6) Carson Paler
7) Brian Urlacher
Dwight Freeney
9) Ed Reed
10) Chad Johnson
11) Shawne Merriman
12) Larry Johnson
13) Julius Peppers
14) Champ Bailey
15) Richard Seymour
16) Jayson Taylor
17) Santana Moss
1
Simeon Rice
19) Tory Holt
20) Troy Polamalu
Walter Jones may not be the most exciting player in the NFL -- he's an offensive tackle, for cryin' out loud -- but he is the most efficient. Instead of making big plays, he prevents them. Over and over and over, with the consistency of a fine timepiece.
The Seahawks' left tackle makes domination so routine, he barely is noticed. But we are not taking Jones for granted. On our list of the 101 best players in the NFL, he's No. 1.
Dolphins left tackle L.J. Shelton says he likes to watch Jones on tape. "He makes it look easy," Shelton says. "He was born to play left tackle. There are things he can do physically I just can't do. There are things he does linebackers probably can't do. He's in a class all his own."
Seahawks offensive coordinator Gil Haskell has worked with Hall of Fame tackles Anthony Munoz and Jackie Slater. In Jones, he sees a player who is bigger than both and as quick as Munoz, whom some regard as the finest left tackle ever.
Jones' presence makes Haskell a better game planner because the Seahawks never have to worry about giving their left tackle help from a running back or tight end in pass protection.
And Jones, who ranked seventh last year, isn't any less effective as a run blocker. In the NFC championship game, he drove Panthers defensive end Mike Rucker, an excellent player, about 20 yards downfield on one run. "He needs just a split second to get his hands on you, and then it's over," Rucker says.
Says Cardinals defensive end Bertrand Berry, "He has amazing strength."
The Seahawks know that well. That's why, by Haskell's recollection, the team went to Jones' side on 27 of their 28 goal-line runs last year. And Jones rarely disappointed them. Seahawks coaches gave him the highest possible grade for his performance in all but two of the team's 19 games.
"He's the best," Bears defensive end Alex Brown says. "Bar none."
Id be intrested on youse guys lists.
We've had discusion on this, there could be 2 different types of lists. 1 based on Impact on the game, where QBs obviously have the biggest impact, and since say Walter Jones is a better LT than say Carson Palmer is QB, but Carson Palmer obviously has more impact on a game. And we've had lists just based on how good the players are.
I thought about this a bit when I was driving home last nite.
Its hard, obviously you have your 5 elite positions in the NFL IMO.
QB
DE
RB
LT
CB/WR
And Ill go ahead and put WR 6th and in that particular order IMO as well. And say you're Ed Reed and you play the 22 outta 22 starting least important position on the field, but you're one of the 7 best defensive players in football, does that hurt Ed Reed in the rankings? Or do you just go bye pure football skillz. In that case does Adam V make it in the top 20?
These are the kind of presures I deal with in my life.
Top 20
1) Walter Jones
2) Peyton Manning
3) Tom Brady
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson
5) Steve Smith
6) Carson Paler
7) Brian Urlacher
9) Ed Reed
10) Chad Johnson
11) Shawne Merriman
12) Larry Johnson
13) Julius Peppers
14) Champ Bailey
15) Richard Seymour
16) Jayson Taylor
17) Santana Moss
1
19) Tory Holt
20) Troy Polamalu
Walter Jones may not be the most exciting player in the NFL -- he's an offensive tackle, for cryin' out loud -- but he is the most efficient. Instead of making big plays, he prevents them. Over and over and over, with the consistency of a fine timepiece.
The Seahawks' left tackle makes domination so routine, he barely is noticed. But we are not taking Jones for granted. On our list of the 101 best players in the NFL, he's No. 1.
Dolphins left tackle L.J. Shelton says he likes to watch Jones on tape. "He makes it look easy," Shelton says. "He was born to play left tackle. There are things he can do physically I just can't do. There are things he does linebackers probably can't do. He's in a class all his own."
Seahawks offensive coordinator Gil Haskell has worked with Hall of Fame tackles Anthony Munoz and Jackie Slater. In Jones, he sees a player who is bigger than both and as quick as Munoz, whom some regard as the finest left tackle ever.
Jones' presence makes Haskell a better game planner because the Seahawks never have to worry about giving their left tackle help from a running back or tight end in pass protection.
And Jones, who ranked seventh last year, isn't any less effective as a run blocker. In the NFC championship game, he drove Panthers defensive end Mike Rucker, an excellent player, about 20 yards downfield on one run. "He needs just a split second to get his hands on you, and then it's over," Rucker says.
Says Cardinals defensive end Bertrand Berry, "He has amazing strength."
The Seahawks know that well. That's why, by Haskell's recollection, the team went to Jones' side on 27 of their 28 goal-line runs last year. And Jones rarely disappointed them. Seahawks coaches gave him the highest possible grade for his performance in all but two of the team's 19 games.
"He's the best," Bears defensive end Alex Brown says. "Bar none."
Id be intrested on youse guys lists.
We've had discusion on this, there could be 2 different types of lists. 1 based on Impact on the game, where QBs obviously have the biggest impact, and since say Walter Jones is a better LT than say Carson Palmer is QB, but Carson Palmer obviously has more impact on a game. And we've had lists just based on how good the players are.
I thought about this a bit when I was driving home last nite.
Its hard, obviously you have your 5 elite positions in the NFL IMO.
QB
DE
RB
LT
CB/WR
And Ill go ahead and put WR 6th and in that particular order IMO as well. And say you're Ed Reed and you play the 22 outta 22 starting least important position on the field, but you're one of the 7 best defensive players in football, does that hurt Ed Reed in the rankings? Or do you just go bye pure football skillz. In that case does Adam V make it in the top 20?
These are the kind of presures I deal with in my life.