TSN Ranking the top 20 players in the league.

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At another board (basketball board) we are ranking the top 20 players in the league based on The Sporting News article from a week ago or so.



Top 20

1) Walter Jones
2) Peyton Manning
3) Tom Brady
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson
5) Steve Smith
6) Carson Paler
7) Brian Urlacher
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Dwight Freeney
9) Ed Reed
10) Chad Johnson
11) Shawne Merriman
12) Larry Johnson
13) Julius Peppers
14) Champ Bailey
15) Richard Seymour
16) Jayson Taylor
17) Santana Moss
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Simeon Rice
19) Tory Holt
20) Troy Polamalu

Walter Jones may not be the most exciting player in the NFL -- he's an offensive tackle, for cryin' out loud -- but he is the most efficient. Instead of making big plays, he prevents them. Over and over and over, with the consistency of a fine timepiece.

The Seahawks' left tackle makes domination so routine, he barely is noticed. But we are not taking Jones for granted. On our list of the 101 best players in the NFL, he's No. 1.

Dolphins left tackle L.J. Shelton says he likes to watch Jones on tape. "He makes it look easy," Shelton says. "He was born to play left tackle. There are things he can do physically I just can't do. There are things he does linebackers probably can't do. He's in a class all his own."

Seahawks offensive coordinator Gil Haskell has worked with Hall of Fame tackles Anthony Munoz and Jackie Slater. In Jones, he sees a player who is bigger than both and as quick as Munoz, whom some regard as the finest left tackle ever.

Jones' presence makes Haskell a better game planner because the Seahawks never have to worry about giving their left tackle help from a running back or tight end in pass protection.

And Jones, who ranked seventh last year, isn't any less effective as a run blocker. In the NFC championship game, he drove Panthers defensive end Mike Rucker, an excellent player, about 20 yards downfield on one run. "He needs just a split second to get his hands on you, and then it's over," Rucker says.

Says Cardinals defensive end Bertrand Berry, "He has amazing strength."

The Seahawks know that well. That's why, by Haskell's recollection, the team went to Jones' side on 27 of their 28 goal-line runs last year. And Jones rarely disappointed them. Seahawks coaches gave him the highest possible grade for his performance in all but two of the team's 19 games.

"He's the best," Bears defensive end Alex Brown says. "Bar none."





Id be intrested on youse guys lists.

We've had discusion on this, there could be 2 different types of lists. 1 based on Impact on the game, where QBs obviously have the biggest impact, and since say Walter Jones is a better LT than say Carson Palmer is QB, but Carson Palmer obviously has more impact on a game. And we've had lists just based on how good the players are.

I thought about this a bit when I was driving home last nite.


Its hard, obviously you have your 5 elite positions in the NFL IMO.

QB

DE
RB
LT
CB/WR

And Ill go ahead and put WR 6th and in that particular order IMO as well. And say you're Ed Reed and you play the 22 outta 22 starting least important position on the field, but you're one of the 7 best defensive players in football, does that hurt Ed Reed in the rankings? Or do you just go bye pure football skillz. In that case does Adam V make it in the top 20?

These are the kind of presures I deal with in my life.
 

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So TSN is in love with Polamalu's hair too, huh?


:rolleyes:


Pathetic.
 

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I dont love the guy but Terrell Owens deserves to be there, maybe Mcnabb too.
Urlacher is too high
Shawn Merriman at 11 is a joke

2 more sacks last year deserves elite status over Demarcus?
 

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So TSN is in love with Polamalu's hair too, huh?

Hes supposed to be a monster at, if nothing else, tackling. Every time I see the Steelers I see him wildly fliying by a guy bc hes coming in too fast leaving the cut back wide open.
 

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And Merriman's tattoos. What a badass.

His spaz celebration of the most routine plays are much better than Demarcus' falling down on his back after a sack, lets be fair.

And Shockeys arms are much more toned than Wittens, that decides that one for me
 

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Steve Smith better than TO and Randy Moss and Marvin Harrison is laughable
 

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1) Walter Jones -ok
2) Peyton Manning -ok
3) Tom Brady -ok
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson- ok
5) Steve Smith -ok
6) Carson Palmer -ok
7) Brian Urlacher- no way in hell
Dwight Freeney--ok
9) Ed Reed ---wasnt good last yr, hasnt been great this yr either...
10) Chad Johnson --ok
11) Shawne Merriman ---not yet
12) Larry Johnson ---not yet
13) Julius Peppers ---ok
14) Champ Bailey ---maybe
15) Richard Seymour ---ok
16) Jayson Taylor ---not anymore
17) Santana Moss ---no
1 Simeon Rice ---not anymore
19) Tory Holt ---ok
20) Troy Polamalu ---no

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
1) Walter Jones -ok
2) Peyton Manning -ok
3) Tom Brady -ok
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson- ok
5) Steve Smith -ok
6) Carson Palmer -ok
7) Brian Urlacher- no way in hell
Dwight Freeney--ok
9) Ed Reed ---wasnt good last yr, hasnt been great this yr either...
10) Chad Johnson --ok
11) Shawne Merriman ---not yet
12) Larry Johnson ---not yet
13) Julius Peppers ---ok
14) Champ Bailey ---maybe
15) Richard Seymour ---ok
16) Jayson Taylor ---not anymore
17) Santana Moss ---no
1 Simeon Rice ---not anymore
19) Tory Holt ---ok
20) Troy Polamalu ---no

David


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dbair1967 said:
1) Walter Jones -ok
2) Peyton Manning -ok
3) Tom Brady -ok
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson- ok
5) Steve Smith -ok
6) Carson Palmer -ok
7) Brian Urlacher- no way in hell
Dwight Freeney--ok
9) Ed Reed ---wasnt good last yr, hasnt been great this yr either...
10) Chad Johnson --ok
11) Shawne Merriman ---not yet
12) Larry Johnson ---not yet
13) Julius Peppers ---ok
14) Champ Bailey ---maybe
15) Richard Seymour ---ok
16) Jayson Taylor ---not anymore
17) Santana Moss ---no
1 Simeon Rice ---not anymore
19) Tory Holt ---ok
20) Troy Polamalu ---no

David

Urlacher is a monster, but I guess 121 tackles and 6 sacks and the defensive player of the year doesnt impress you much.
 

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dbair1967 said:
1) Walter Jones -ok
2) Peyton Manning -ok
3) Tom Brady -ok
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson- ok
5) Steve Smith -ok
6) Carson Palmer -ok
7) Brian Urlacher- no way in hell
Dwight Freeney--ok
9) Ed Reed ---wasnt good last yr, hasnt been great this yr either...
10) Chad Johnson --ok
11) Shawne Merriman ---not yet
12) Larry Johnson ---not yet
13) Julius Peppers ---ok
14) Champ Bailey ---maybe
15) Richard Seymour ---ok
16) Jayson Taylor ---not anymore
17) Santana Moss ---no
1 Simeon Rice ---not anymore
19) Tory Holt ---ok
20) Troy Polamalu ---no

David
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JustSayNotoTO said:
Urlacher is a monster, but I guess 121 tackles and 6 sacks and the defensive player of the year doesnt impress you much.

I'm not sure he's even the best player on that defense, let alone the best in the league

he's a good player but for most of his career he has been more hype than anything else

David
 

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I don't have a problem with Walter Jones being rated so high. Top dog? Not for me, but ok. But I do not, for the life of me, understand why Julius Peppers is down at 13 behind Urlacher, Freeney, Reed, and Merriman. There is no more disruptive defensive force than JP, IMHO.

The numbers don't always bear that out, but any time you watch Carolina play, Peppers is flushing the passer, blocking kicks, picking off passes, or making some insane freak play. He does things a man his size has no business doing.

Of course, top-end QBs such as Manning & Brady belong at or near the top. And LT as well.
 

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Wow, what a list, not a cowboy to be seen anywhere. Santana Moss?? Oh goodness, that is terrible.
 

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peppersquad said:
Top 20

1) Walter Jones
2) Peyton Manning
3) Tom Brady
4) LaDainlian Tomlinson
5) Steve Smith
6) Carson Palmer
7) Brian Urlacher
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Dwight Freeney
9) Ed Reed
10) Chad Johnson
11) Shawne Merriman
12) Larry Johnson
13) Julius Peppers
14) Champ Bailey
15) Richard Seymour
16) Jayson Taylor
17) Santana Moss
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Simeon Rice
19) Tory Holt
20) Troy Polamalu

Pretty sick of people putting Manning over Brady, its just absurd. Imagine what Brady would do with Manning's weapons. They'd go 19-0.
I think Freeney is pretty overrated, good yes, but frankly all i ever see him do is run 8 yards up field to try to get to the QB...even if its a running play right at him.
I actually agree that Merriman belongs on there and Ware doesn't. Merriman has given their defense an edge they didn't have. Ware is a great player but he hasn't singlehandedly changed our defense like Merriman has SD's.
Not sure about Urlacher, Taylor, Seymour, and Holt still being rated so highly.
I think Roy Williams and TO probably belong on the list. He's a bigtime impact player.
Julius Peppers should be higher.
 

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wow urlacher can't hold R. Lewis jock strap.
tom >>>>>>peyton
LT should be higher that man is a freakin work horse
steve smith is a good wr but M Harrison, R. moss, T. Owens, S. Moss are better imo.
Carson is good
Julius Peppers is better than Dwight Freeney

there are plenty of hits and misses
 

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There isn't a faster way to get football fans fired up then to come out with a player ranking. It's been that way forever and will probably always will be.
 

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All I want to know is can Merriman cover and re-route receivers as well as Demarcus, I will give him his props for pass rushing but is that all?

If he is a 3-4 OLB he should be able to cover the slot and re-route as needed. Can anyone say he does this far better than Ware too?

The fact is if Merriman IS better than Ware at rushing the passer, it isn't by a whole lot. I have never once seen him in coverage or on the slot receiver but I am willing to bet he does not do that near as well as Ware. Ware is the total package.
 

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This is like a month old. And it's actually a top 100 list. It's hilarious how many receivers are on there above TO. How many safeties above Roy. How many running backs above Shaun Alexander. Really a woeful list.
 
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