Tweet from Broaddus re Mack

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According to Babe, the starting lineup will eventually be...

Smith - Leary - Fred - Free - Parnell

Right?

Ugh.

I'd rather see Free at RT than Parnell. And I'd rather see it look like Smith-Leary-Frederick-Bernardeau-Free





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Callahan likes Bernie as well. So that makes me wonder why other people have differing opinions including myself although I seem to be well into the minority about how well he plays vs many here.

I think part of it has to do with what you have and that Bernardeau comes at a cheap price. I think the other part is that he will show flashes of great play and he's a guy that doesn't have a lot of football experience in general for a NFL player...so the thought is that he has potential to get better. But, I think with those types of players that if they don't get it now...they never will and it's just a case of not having enough ability to consistently get the job done. They may have enough ability to occasionally get it done, but doing it time after time is another thing.




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I think part of it has to do with what you have and that Bernardeau comes at a cheap price. I think the other part is that he will show flashes of great play and he's a guy that doesn't have a lot of football experience in general for a NFL player...so the thought is that he has potential to get better. But, I think with those types of players that if they don't get it now...they never will and it's just a case of not having enough ability to consistently get the job done. They may have enough ability to occasionally get it done, but doing it time after time is another thing.




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And you may be right. He may get better or not. The only way to know is to play him. Right now the top guards on the team are Leary, Bernie and Free. I'm not sure I like the idea of putting my top three tackles on the field at the same time every game. Not saying I wouldn't but its a risk. So if Free doesn't play RG then Bernie will.
 

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And you may be right. He may get better or not. The only way to know is to play him. Right now the top guards on the team are Leary, Bernie and Free. I'm not sure I like the idea of putting my top three tackles on the field at the same time every game. Not saying I wouldn't but its a risk. So if Free doesn't play RG then Bernie will.

Yes, the 4th OT would be an issue if Free plays OG. Bell didn't even play in the Bengals game except as a blocker on field-goals/extra-points. Weems and Coughman have some physical ability but neither appear ready to play in real games.

I would like to see the Parnell/Free lineup because I'm convinced that if Parnell started all 16 games that he would be better then Free by the end of the season. They would have to live with him not being as good as Free for the first few games but he's not going to get better without playing. Parnell has superior physical ability compared to Free. He is stronger and quicker. He made several mistakes in the Bengals game, but when he gets his hands on the defender he his usually very good. Several of his mistakes were from being overly aggressive, whereas they have been coaching Free trying to get him to be more aggressive. It did appear that Parnell is still in pain from the hamstring issue.
 

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You mean you can't go back and look at the game again and see for yourself? I think what you are missing is he has been a hard defender of Mack since last year. That's why a lot of people are questioning his analysis. How can so many people be wrong and seeing the same thing yet BB sees it different? Also connect the dots. Why move Mack from RG to LG when he's been the RG. If they just wanted to get Parnell snaps at OT all they had to do was plug Free at LG. don't think for a min that Leary isn't going to start at LG. there is more to this and all you have to do is pay attention.

This is not directed at you and it is something that I have noticed about Broaddus. When he starts talking about specifics ie 'he was able to sit down and anchor' or 'cannot slide his feet and pick up his man' or the like then he is usually spot on. When I don't trust him is when he starts talking in emotional adjectives like 'I really liked' or 'he was awful' or even worse when he goes to gross generalities, and he does this one a lot, 'he played with technique.'

Broaddus seems to know line play. He knows the body angles, foot and hand placement and the other techniques. He will talk about specific physical traits in all positions. He doesn't talk about say route adjustments or how skill position players use their hands or their steps a lot.

CBZ posters are much, much worse. Very, very few specific examples or at best grandstanding on the outcome of a single play. A whole lot of emotional hyperbole and unsubstantiated generalities. You can go through this thread very easily and pick them out. Don't post them though because people do not like it when you call them out. You can go on about this too.

People that say that the average Cowboys fan knows as much as Broaddus I don't put much stock into. I am fine with admitting that I do not know close to as much as he does.
 

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This is not directed at you and it is something that I have noticed about Broaddus. When he starts talking about specifics ie 'he was able to sit down and anchor' or 'cannot slide his feet and pick up his man' or the like then he is usually spot on. When I don't trust him is when he starts talking in emotional adjectives like 'I really liked' or 'he was awful' or even worse when he goes to gross generalities, and he does this one a lot, 'he played with technique.'

Broaddus seems to know line play. He knows the body angles, foot and hand placement and the other techniques. He will talk about specific physical traits in all positions. He doesn't talk about say route adjustments or how skill position players use their hands or their steps a lot.

CBZ posters are much, much worse. Very, very few specific examples or at best grandstanding on the outcome of a single play. A whole lot of emotional hyperbole and unsubstantiated generalities. You can go through this thread very easily and pick them out. Don't post them though because people do not like it when you call them out. You can go on about this too.

People that say that the average Cowboys fan knows as much as Broaddus I don't put much stock into. I am fine with admitting that I do not know close to as much as he does.

Very well said.

If I want specifics I'll listen to Broaddus.

If I want hyperbole... I visit the Zone.
 

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Livings and Bernadeau were acquired with the sole intention of buying time for the youngsters to devlelop.
Unfortunately, the aforementioned youngsters involved turned out to be equally as lame ideas as acquiring Livings and Bernadeau in turn. Apparently, poor decisions have a way of leading to more poor decisions.
 

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Livings and Bernadeau were acquired with the sole intention of buying time for the youngsters to devlelop.
Unfortunately, the aforementioned youngsters involved turned out to be equally as lame ideas as acquiring Livings and Bernadeau. Apparently, poor decisions have a way of leading to more poor decisions.

Who knew Leary was a flop... flop.
 

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Livings and Bernadeau were acquired with the sole intention of buying time for the youngsters to devlelop.
Unfortunately, the aforementioned youngsters involved turned out to be equally as lame ideas as acquiring Livings and Bernadeau in turn. Apparently, poor decisions have a way of leading to more poor decisions.


going dumpster diving is never a good idea.
 

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Yes, the 4th OT would be an issue if Free plays OG. Bell didn't even play in the Bengals game except as a blocker on field-goals/extra-points. Weems and Coughman have some physical ability but neither appear ready to play in real games.

I would like to see the Parnell/Free lineup because I'm convinced that if Parnell started all 16 games that he would be better then Free by the end of the season. They would have to live with him not being as good as Free for the first few games but he's not going to get better without playing. Parnell has superior physical ability compared to Free. He is stronger and quicker. He made several mistakes in the Bengals game, but when he gets his hands on the defender he his usually very good. Several of his mistakes were from being overly aggressive, whereas they have been coaching Free trying to get him to be more aggressive. It did appear that Parnell is still in pain from the hamstring issue.

Agree completely with this. I'm not sure what I'd do if I were coach. If Smith/Leary/Fred/Free/Parnell is clearly superior to Smith/Leary/Fred/Bernie/Free then you go with the former. If you think Parnell is going to avoid those 'did you see that guy go right by me' plays then again go with the former. Still a risk. Any tackle goes down then you're going to have to play Bell or Weems as the swing tackle and I don't even know if they make the team right now; either one.
 

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I am still on the fence about the current line configuration. That being said it does make sense that Parnell will get better as his health improves and with experience. I am curious to see how much they play that starting line in the final preseason game.
 

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Guess you'll just be on pins & needles until the end of the season huh?

considering the record of this team as regards guards anyone showing any confidence in their judgement until proven in the regular season must also believe in the tooth fairy.
 

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considering the record of this team as regards guards anyone showing any confidence in their judgement until proven in the regular season must also believe in the tooth fairy.

No... Like some git often says on here... "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while." :)
 

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I am still on the fence about the current line configuration. That being said it does make sense that Parnell will get better as his health improves and with experience. I am curious to see how much they play that starting line in the final preseason game.

Playing Free beside Parnell makes sense but would be less risky if you had a swing tackle with Smith, Free and Parnell in the game at the same time.
 

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Fwiw babe thinks last nights lineup is going to be the line. Said they want five guys to work at this together from now on.

He mentioned that if Leary comes back he will Start over mack. Mentioned that Parnell will continue to improve as he keeps playing after missing so much time.

Now everyone can bash Free again while he learns a new position.
 
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