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- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064354 said:
- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.

Witten dropped one pass because Hurd ran into him and Ware is not getting the call to rush. We were in containment because of Vince had it been Collins we would of put more pressure on him.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064354 said:
- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.

ware wasn't asked to pass rush ala freeney today, he was in coverage everytime I noticed him, which isn't something freenery can do.

witten has been solid up to this point in the season, the guy just had a baby on tuesday and was back in his college state for the first time in his pro carreer, I think he gets a pass on anything he did wrong today
 

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DBoys;1064361 said:
Witten dropped one pass because Hurd ran into him and Ware is not getting the call to rush. We were in containment because of Vince had it been Collins we would of put more pressure on him.

I agree, you can't pressure Vince Young all the time. The dude can run...
 

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Ware will be fine, he did today exactly what the coaching staff asked him todo and that was to make sure Vince didnt escape from the pocket.

As for Witten he has done so little so far this year that i had completely forgotten about him till you mentioned him right now. But i'm not worried about him, he'll be fine as well. it just that with Jones playing so well and Glenn being awesome, and T.O there as well we just havent really needed Witten but expect him to be more involved in the offense especially next week against philly
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064354 said:
- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.

Why is that? He's facing a ROOKIE MOBILE QB which means the entire defense is more concerned with CONTAINMENT rather than overwhelming pressure. He also went against a LT that only allowed 6 sacks all of last season.
3 sacks a game is what you expect? No wonder you're disappointed.

I'm sure it didn't help Witten that Hurd ran into him while he was catching the ball... there's 1 dropped pass that wasn't his fault. Bledsoe threw the ball behind him.. another not his fault. He has dropped some easy ones but I'll keep my faith in him thru a few more weeks.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064354 said:
- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.

I have to add a third Cowboy that concerns me. Drew Bledsoe. This is not a Bash Drew post. I actually hope he rides off into sunset this year like Elway did. I just dont believe in this guy. I hope for him, but I dont believe in him. I would like to think that Romo could be the one... but we just dont know.
 

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I'm not worried about Witten. Fasano is a guy that emerged two weeks ago against Washington and wasn't even thrown to today. It's gonna happen.

Witten's opportunities, so far, have diminished because of the upgraded personnel. But I haven't seen a drop off in his game. Everyone has had some drops this year; all of Witten's came against Washington when everyone seemed to be dropping 'em left and right.
 

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Bledsoe only threw 20 passes and completed 13. Witten caught 2 of those completions. Hard to put up big numbers when 13 completions go to TO and Glenn and company.

Ware - "can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected" isn't his game and certainly not what BP expects.
 

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big dog cowboy;1064408 said:
Bledsoe only threw 20 passes and completed 13. Witten caught 2 of those completions. Hard to put up big numbers when 13 completions go to TO and Glenn and company.

Ware - "can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected" isn't his game and certainly not what BP expects.

Well if that's not his game then what is? he's not a cover guy - we didn't draft him to be a Seth Joyner, we took him to be LT, who he was compared to.
 

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I'm concerned about any player THAT'S NOT AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN that keeps getting false start penalties!
 

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we have little to worry about except injuries and making DUMB mistakes (ie. jags game).

the pass protection was great. glenn caught 2 TDs that the TE could have had if open or in teh end zone. some of you would be happier if Ware had 2-3 sacks but gave up multiple BIG PLAYS?

keep a perspective here.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064354 said:
- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.

Witten...he will be fine. His numbers dropped off last year and will be similar this year because we have way too many weapons on offense for Bledsoe to choose. Witten will be most effective down the stretch in the middle of the field when teams try throwing everything but the kitchen sink at bledsoe to try and slow our offense down.

Ware....he's obviously a focal point of opposing coaches and how they are planning their blocking schemes. And whether he finishes with 15 sacks or 5 I don't think it really matters, we are loaded with talent in our front seven and as long as we are making plays and getting pressure on QB's it really don't matter.
 

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we scored 45 points and only gave up some 14?

nobody should have you concerned
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064410 said:
Well if that's not his game then what is? he's not a cover guy - we didn't draft him to be a Seth Joyner, we took him to be LT, who he was compared to.

Your expectations are to fixated and directed at certain aspects. The dynamics of football changes every week with a team as talented as we are. Teams try different things each week and doing so opens certain players. The importance is when that happens that player steps up. This team has way to much talent to house really good individual stats. This will be a TEAM spreading it out all over on Offense and Defense. They are rotating constantly trying to keep guys fresh and prevent the injuries that come with being tired.

Look to the team stats for a better idea of what is truly happening. For example look how well our team is doing with sacks as a whole instead of just Ware.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1064354 said:
- Jason Witten : Something doesn't appear right in his game, I don't know if it's TO taking away his over the middle stuff, or if he's banged up etc - but he looks a bit lost and he's dropped his share as well, very unlike him. Is it the Big Dough? He's even looked as if he's sulked a few times - it's early , but if we wanna go where we think we can go we need Mr.Polygrip back.

- Demarcus Ware : Games like this today? - Charles Haley woulda have dominated and wreaked havoc - he would have had a sack or two as well as flushed the QB to Tony Tolbert and Jeffcoat - Games like this is when Ware;s name should be called non stop. I know he has it in him- I just want to see him take a game over , Freeney like - I hope he lets it drop next Sunday , can he give me 3 sacks and a forced fumble?? That's what we expected.

These two guys are at the very bottom of my list of players to be concnered about. Well, Newman is below them, but not by much.

What games have you been watching?
 

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Ware is good, but he's not "Haley good" and he never will be. Not many will be for that matter.

Having said that, indeed he's playing pretty good, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in him considering where he was drafted.
 

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Sarge;1064593 said:
Ware is good, but he's not "Haley good" and he never will be. Not many will be for that matter.

Having said that, indeed he's playing pretty good, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in him considering where he was drafted.

Morning Sarge. :)
 

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Your expectations are to fixated and directed at certain aspects. The dynamics of football changes every week with a team as talented as we are. Teams try different things each week and doing so opens certain players. The importance is when that happens that player steps up. This team has way to much talent to house really good individual stats. This will be a TEAM spreading it out all over on Offense and Defense. They are rotating constantly trying to keep guys fresh and prevent the injuries that come with being tired.

Look to the team stats for a better idea of what is truly happening. For example look how well our team is doing with sacks as a whole instead of just Ware.

If Witten seems to have less production, I'm actually happy about that in light of the fact that the other offensive players are getting their touches and producing with them.

Much of Witten's decrease would be attributable to the 2-TE offense being run where the blocking is being emphasised meaning Witten is not going out so as to protect Bledsoe..

..and the running game is beginning to jell with the offensive line and certainly Witten and Fascano being asked to seal off backside pursuit or open holes at the point of attack.

The more running carries we have, the less Witten and the TE's need to contribute in the passing game to move the chains.

And lastly, it's pretty obvious, with TO and TG and Crayton out of the slot, the WR's are getting cushions and can easily pickup the 5-7 yard passes and turn them into 20 yard catches.

I think that one thing that needs to change is using TO on all these quick slants. He's getting so much attention with at least two guys hitting him every pass close to the LOS..he's going to definately take a beating over the course of the season and probably get a more serious injury.

Every team is going to be trying to take their shots at him to try to take him out of the game.

I'd start putting him in the slot and try to motion him more to get him free of the tight coverages and make the defense react to his movement. Sitting him out wide plays into the hands of the defense and what they want to do to isolate him and take him out of the offense.

This is where Witten will probably flourish or Fascano. If TO goes in motion and the defense moves with him, then throwing back to the opposite side where the TE will get single coverage sounds like the way to attack to me.

Or running the ball opposite to TO's motion seems likely as LBer's and Safeties will be adjusting to this motion and leave favorable blocking matchups for the TE's and OL.

Witten has his time coming. There are going to be games, against better teams, that will take TO out of the game and/or put pressure on the OL and Bledsoe with pass rush pressure.

That's when the TE's will answer the bell.

Like this Sunday against the Eagles.

No doubt, playing in Philly, the gameplan will be conservative, smash-mouth and lot's of short passes to keep the ball from McNabb.

Can we say Witten for a first down.?

Witten for the score..?

parcellswaterboy
 

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parcellswaterboy;1064616 said:
If Witten seems to have less production, I'm actually happy about that in light of the fact that the other offensive players are getting their touches and producing with them.

Much of Witten's decrease would be attributable to the 2-TE offense being run where the blocking is being emphasised meaning Witten is not going out so as to protect Bledsoe..

..and the running game is beginning to jell with the offensive line and certainly Witten and Fascano being asked to seal off backside pursuit or open holes at the point of attack.

The more running carries we have, the less Witten and the TE's need to contribute in the passing game to move the chains.

And lastly, it's pretty obvious, with TO and TG and Crayton out of the slot, the WR's are getting cushions and can easily pickup the 5-7 yard passes and turn them into 20 yard catches.

I think that one thing that needs to change is using TO on all these quick slants. He's getting so much attention with at least two guys hitting him every pass close to the LOS..he's going to definately take a beating over the course of the season and probably get a more serious injury.

Every team is going to be trying to take their shots at him to try to take him out of the game.

I'd start putting him in the slot and try to motion him more to get him free of the tight coverages and make the defense react to his movement. Sitting him out wide plays into the hands of the defense and what they want to do to isolate him and take him out of the offense.

This is where Witten will probably flourish or Fascano. If TO goes in motion and the defense moves with him, then throwing back to the opposite side where the TE will get single coverage sounds like the way to attack to me.

Or running the ball opposite to TO's motion seems likely as LBer's and Safeties will be adjusting to this motion and leave favorable blocking matchups for the TE's and OL.

Witten has his time coming. There are going to be games, against better teams, that will take TO out of the game and/or put pressure on the OL and Bledsoe with pass rush pressure.

That's when the TE's will answer the bell.

Like this Sunday against the Eagles.

No doubt, playing in Philly, the gameplan will be conservative, smash-mouth and lot's of short passes to keep the ball from McNabb.

Can we say Witten for a first down.?

Witten for the score..?

parcellswaterboy

Good post
 
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