Two questions from yesterday.

aikemirv

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1.How was Rodgers pass an "illegal forward pass"

2. What do the Giants have on Al Michaels? - I mean the lengths he went to to explain how Eli was not over the line and the fevor he proclaimed it and the insistence on Jacobs TD!
 

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I was thinking the same thing. Al Michaels went an extra step to explain how Eli was behind the line... It was quite annoying...
 

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da_whiz_kid;2411227 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Al Michaels went an extra step to explain how Eli was behind the line... It was quite annoying...

He doesn't have to be behind the line. As long as his entire body and the ball aren't both completely past the line of scrimmage -- as long as some part of him or the ball is on or behind the line -- it's a legal pass. And his foot wasn't past the line.

On the Rodgers penalty, the official announced "illegal forward pass," but the NFL is saying that it actually was intentional grounding. Whether it was a good call or not depends entirely on the definition and interpretation of "the vicinity of an eligible receiver."
 

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Shrug, maybe it's because he is a native of Brooklyn. (Al Michaels)
 

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What was really annoying was that the red line on TV marking the line of scrimmage was off by almost a foot ( you could see the marker on the sideline ) but neither of the doofuses could see that. They kept remarking on the tv redline, but if you went by the actual marker, it was obvious he was NOT fully passed the line.
 

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Dhragon;2411294 said:
What was really annoying was that the red line on TV marking the line of scrimmage was off by almost a foot ( you could see the marker on the sideline ) but neither of the doofuses could see that. They kept remarking on the tv redline, but if you went by the actual marker, it was obvious he was NOT fully passed the line.

And... the line of scrimmage is a LINE, not a 10 inch red imposed mark on the field
 

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AdamJT13;2411286 said:
He doesn't have to be behind the line. As long as his entire body and the ball aren't both completely past the line of scrimmage -- as long as some part of him or the ball is on or behind the line -- it's a legal pass. And his foot wasn't past the line.

On the Rodgers penalty, the official announced "illegal forward pass," but the NFL is saying that it actually was intentional grounding. Whether it was a good call or not depends entirely on the definition and interpretation of "the vicinity of an eligible receiver."
did they change the rule? I thought last year any part of your body across the LOS resulted in a penalty.
 

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da_whiz_kid;2411227 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Al Michaels went an extra step to explain how Eli was behind the line... It was quite annoying...

You got that right....:starspin
 

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Rampage;2411506 said:
did they change the rule? I thought last year any part of your body across the LOS resulted in a penalty.
No. You might remember Romo threw a TD in New York last year where he was mostly across the line, but his leg wasn't, so there was no penalty.

It was an ugly balloon-looking throw to Curtis, I think, but it still counted.
 

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Rampage;2411506 said:
did they change the rule? I thought last year any part of your body across the LOS resulted in a penalty.

That's been the rule for a few years, at least. I've searched some places that list a history of NFL rule changes and see nothing about that rule, so it might have always been the rule.
 

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I didn't get to see the Rodgers play much, but from what I did see he looked out of the pocket and it looked like it went past the line of scrimmage. Am I wrong?
 

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ChldsPlay;2411838 said:
I didn't get to see the Rodgers play much, but from what I did see he looked out of the pocket and it looked like it went past the line of scrimmage. Am I wrong?

It did not make it back to the line of scrimmage.

Whether there was an eligible receiver was close is very debateable.
 

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They called the pass illegal didn't they.

Well after looking at the replay you can't tell me that there was irrefutable evidence to over turn.
 

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aikemirv;2411202 said:
1.How was Rodgers pass an "illegal forward pass"

Not a single dang thing. It was a horrible call.
 

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AdamJT13;2411286 said:
He doesn't have to be behind the line. As long as his entire body and the ball aren't both completely past the line of scrimmage -- as long as some part of him or the ball is on or behind the line -- it's a legal pass. And his foot wasn't past the line.

On the Rodgers penalty, the official announced "illegal forward pass," but the NFL is saying that it actually was intentional grounding. Whether it was a good call or not depends entirely on the definition and interpretation of "the vicinity of an eligible receiver."

He was outside the pocket, so all he had to do was get it passed the LOS.
 

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Rack;2412151 said:
He was outside the pocket, so all he had to do was get it passed the LOS.

It landed a couple of yards behind the line of scrimmage.
 

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AdamJT13;2412225 said:
It landed a couple of yards behind the line of scrimmage.

Ah, didn't realize that.


Doesn't have to just be thrown "Near" the LOS though?
 
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