News: Two Tony Romo moments this season convinced Troy Aikman that Cowboys QB call is vital

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I don't know if we do any better with a QB who isn't in the top 15 at that position so addressing the QB position wasn't the main problem imo.


We won 1 game without Romo.

Weeden was released and won 2 in a different environment.



Yes, we really need a backup QB but imo it is secondary when it comes to getting successful play from that position.

We have no backup QB, we have no young signal caller to groom, and Romo is on his last legs. We just finished a season where without Romo we could only win 1 game. How is the QB position not the main problem? How about two years from now? Will it be the main problem then? If your answer is probably, then its the main problem now. Because it takes a few years to develop a guy. And in two years will we be up this high at the time or will it take a year or two of disaster after Romo to get up here again. If the opportunity presents itself this year to get a great prospect we have to take it. At least that is my opinion.
 

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"Could". That is why this draft is so important. I like that they seem to acknowledge some of Romo's mortality.

That said, I fear more of the garbage veteran avenue with Griffin or Manziel as a cop out way to avoid the stigma of "drafting a backup" for those supposed five years Romo has left.

Yup, I'm on the same page. Reaching for a QB that might not be very good or going the veteran avenue both sound bad to me. We might have a few bad years coming up.. probably a good idea to focus on the trenches. I wouldn't might taking a stud LB, CB, or Safety with that first pick.
 

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I am as gung ho about drafting the future franchise QB, but I draw the line at trading up. Not yet. Now when we are in full scale panic mode after Romo retires, that might change.

I hate trading up for a player but for a potential franchise QB, for your next 10 years at the most important position on the field, if Goff is all that and a bag of chips (like Aikman was), I think you go get your man no matter the cost.
 

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Yeah, I think years ago. Around 2 years ago and also like you said, the picks could have been middle to late round. I have zero confidence in Romo surviving a full season and playing at a very high level. I don't trust his back at all. With that said, I don't like the idea of reaching for a QB that might not have the talent level we need either. We have tons of holes on the team that need to be filled. So we are in a tough position right now.

Agreed there. If Goff is the ONLY great QB in this draft and he gets picked ahead of us, then dont reach.
 

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I hate trading up for a player but for a potential franchise QB, for your next 10 years at the most important position on the field, if Goff is all that and a bag of chips (like Aikman was), I think you go get your man no matter the cost.

True, but I wish I could say that about Goff. I can't.
 

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I agree that Dallas needs to look to the future but in fairness in from 2011 to 2014 Romo has missed 2 games. Last season with the collar bone yes he missed most of the season but I think he still has some quality seasons left. Frankly Aikman was missing more time than that.
 

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So Rivers has a bad back and a collarbone that could explode at any time? Interesting.

If he does, I wasnt aware of it. But you cant think that the Chargers are as naive as the brass here. Rivers was hinting at retirement a year or two ago. With them losing badly the past few years I cant imagine he has much time left. They would be wise to take Goff now if they can. And lets not forget that they took Rivers at the time when they still had Brees. So clearly that franchise understands the importance of the position and developing before the incumbant retires.

For my money a QB doesnt have to be on is final season or two to take the next guy. If you draft a young QB and he looks all the part, it gives you a great opportunity to trade the veteran. Especially if he has a few good years left. A team like Houston or Minnesotta might pay handsomely for a guy like Romo or Rivers. Its this type of out of the box thinking that the brass in Dallas dont seem to grasp.
 

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This. How much could it really cost to move from 4 to, say, 2-3?
For two, it probably means a mid first if the team has it, or a second and future high pick in 2017. It is not cheap.
 

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This. How much could it really cost to move from 4 to, say, 2-3?

Definitely your 2nd round pick and probably your third round pick. But when there is a franchise QB at stake, these guys ask for more than its worth.
 

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I agree that Dallas needs to look to the future but in fairness in from 2011 to 2014 Romo has missed 2 games. Last season with the collar bone yes he missed most of the season but I think he still has some quality seasons left. Frankly Aikman was missing more time than that.

Why does Romo have to be completely finished for us to take the next guy?
 

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I agree that Dallas needs to look to the future but in fairness in from 2011 to 2014 Romo has missed 2 games. Last season with the collar bone yes he missed most of the season but I think he still has some quality seasons left. Frankly Aikman was missing more time than that.

But......Aikman is a perfect example. We didnt draft the next guy while Aikman was here. How did that turn out?
 

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Trade up for Goff...

lol

No, there are no franchise QB's in this draft. There might be QB's with that potential but overall it is weak. I rather go with RGIII or Yuck (Johnny Football) and develop them to take over. RGIII has had a year of rest so his knee should be good to go. Johnny Football is showing flashes but he needs to get his head right. Regardless, those two are ahead of any Goff type coming out of college
 

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But......Aikman is a perfect example. We didnt draft the next guy while Aikman was here. How did that turn out?

and I said I think Dallas needs to look to the future I want a QB at 4 I would take Goff or Lynch at that spot. I would not screw around hoping someone will be there in the 2nd. These top 2 guys represent the top QB in the draft I want Dallas to get one. Meantime as I said I think Romo does have some productive years left and that would only benefit guys like Goff and Lynch so that they are not thrown to the wolves day 1.
 

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No, there are no franchise QB's in this draft. There might be QB's with that potential but overall it is weak. I rather go with RGIII or Yuck (Johnny Football) and develop them to take over. RGIII has had a year of rest so his knee should be good to go. Johnny Football is showing flashes but he needs to get his head right. Regardless, those two are ahead of any Goff type coming out of college

And this is my big concern as well. I dont think this is a good QB draft. So we might be screwed anyway.
 

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Oh, that ####### late hit Was cheap and he couldn't prepare for it at all. Let's hope that's the reason and he's not prone to easily injure it.

I'm still on record as saying you'll never see a hit that late unless you go back to Martin on McMahon. No fine either.

You'll never see one that bad. It's so bad it confirms my belief other calls against us are influenced by bias.
 

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No, there are no franchise QB's in this draft. There might be QB's with that potential but overall it is weak. I rather go with RGIII or Yuck (Johnny Football) and develop them to take over. RGIII has had a year of rest so his knee should be good to go. Johnny Football is showing flashes but he needs to get his head right. Regardless, those two are ahead of any Goff type coming out of college

So, no franchise QBs in the draft, you are positive of that. But sign one of two unreliable veterans who have already shown they can't or at the very least struggle to play at even a mediocre in this league and "develop" them.

 

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Another hit to the back may not end his season but it will hamper him like apparently it did after week one this season. That's my concern, how effective will he be and how will it affect his throw down field and to the sidelines. IMO he may last another couple of years but he will miss games in between, this is a great opportunity to groom a replacement when that day comes.
 
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