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Re: Tony Romo

I'm telling you now that I don't think he's done in Dallas...certainly not this year. Dak is still a rookie and injuries still happen.

That being said, even if he IS done in Dallas, this year and forever, he has been a terrific quarterback...a great quarterback. All the criticism has been ridiculously magnified. He has been unfairly maligned. I truly, genuinely rank him among the all-time greats. He had the "misfortune" of playing at the same time as 3 other players who make that list, 2 of which are in the conversation for best ever. That creates an impossible standard. He gets graded on an insurmountably steep curve.

Some people developed their opinion of him when he bobbled the snap against Seattle in 06. They weren't able to ever get that perception out of their heads or their hearts. They missed the development of a player who became one of the best and clearly loves to play the game. Who seemed to know how blessed he was to be where he was at.

There are others who couldn't stop trying to compare him to former franchise greats. Another "misfortune" that clouded people's judgment about him, his effectiveness, his overall play. He hadn't won three Super Bowls, so he isn't Troy Aikman. He hasn't even won a Super Bowl, so he's not even Roger Staubach. Because he isn't those players, he had his support reduced even among his hometown fans. When the haters' knives came out, fewer people had his back because large parts of his potential fan base had decided to judge him based on the number of Super Bowl trophies rather than his ability to contribute to winning them.

And yet, this undrafted free agent from Northern Illinois went on to start for America's Team. He set franchise records in passing yards, and touchdowns, and wins. But, there was always the last pick he threw. For a while, he had the highest rating of any active QB (may still have it, and that's quite an accomplishment given his generational cohorts)...but there was that one time he DIDN'T drive the length of the field...twice...for touchdowns...against a top 5 defense...during an away game...in bad weather...while injured.

I've seen him return to play after breaking a rib and suffering a punctured lung. Like Daniel freakin' Laruso after Miyagi worked on his leg, Romo returned to the field. He threw a great pass to a receiver who won his roster spot on a reality TV show for a last second 77-yard catch that lead to the game winning touchdown after spending a long time in the locker room barely able to breathe. Something he still struggled to do through the pain that persisted days later. But, he suited up the next week anyway.

He took a vacation to Cabo once. It clearly signaled a lack focus and commitment. He likes to play golf. Must be because he doesn't care about the team. Whatever...

He went toe-to-toe with Payton Manning in a shootout in Denver, throwing for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards. He throws one pick at the end due to his throw being partly distrupted by the pressure the Broncos were applying, partly because of a great play by their linebacker. But even though the Cowboys offense scored 48 points and the defense did not force a single Broncos punt, it was supposedly Romo's fault that they lost.

In the face of impossible standards, he persevered. He honed his game. Cut back on the interceptions that DID somewhat cloud the early years of his starting career (though, even then, they weren't too bad). He clearly worked on himself as a man too. Antonio Romero Romo has shown how resilient, disciplined, and tough he can be...and he did for a long time on the field for the Cowboys too. When I was younger, I used to idolize football players because of their physical skills and talents. It's the same with Romo. But, now that I've gotten a bit older, I appreciate the determination it took for him to get where he's at from where he came from. And, I marvel at his ability to show grace in the face of ridiculous, unjustified criticism. Whatever happens, wherever he plays, I'll remain a Tony Romo fan.

When he's done playing, I hope he coaches...and, I hope it's with the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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Tony didn't help matters by saying that 'in 10 years, people won't even remember me' as well as saying that he is a big play QB and turnovers come with being a big play QB and was rather nonchalant about it. He also had poor body language at times, like after the botched snap against the Seahawks.

He started to overcome that stuff a little in 2009, then had some body language issues in 2010, but then started to really take that stuff to heart and turn things around in 2011. I think if he was QB'ing for any other team, it would not blow out of proportion, but the spotlight is always on the Dallas QB. Something tells me that Dak won't have that same body language.

I really think in the end, bad coaching did him in. Sure, Garrett is 'arriving' now (I still don't quite feel 100% confident in Garrett), but it took him a long time to do so. I think a lot of this stuff with Romo never happens if Parcells stayed as coach or if we had hired Jim Harbaugh or Bruce Arians.




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He went toe-to-toe with Payton Manning in a shootout in Denver, throwing for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards. He throws one pick at the end due to his throw being partly distrupted by the pressure the Broncos were applying, partly because of a great play by their linebacker. But even though the Cowboys offense scored 48 points and the defense did not force a single Broncos punt, it was supposedly Romo's fault that they lost.

Tony is very much appreciated. I love the Cowboys thus I love Romo as our QB for the last decade. He's truly a uniquely gifted QB. This year has given time to reflect on Romo however. We sometimes romanticize those that are not longer presently active. This game and a lot of your post perfectly illustrate why the perception of Romo is what it is. Amazing stats but not able to pull through when it absolutely counts the most in the absolute biggest games consistently. There are certain games in every season that are franchise altering at least for that particular season. That Denver game was one of them. Going head to head with Petyton in his video game like year in Denver is pretty much a summary of Tony Romo. It truly is. It's not all about 500 yards/5 TD's.. some get stuck on his #'s despite LOSING THE GAME. The ball is in Romo's hands.. There is a reason why QB is the most complex position in all of sports. There's a reason why we associate wins and losses with a QB as opposed to a LB etc.

Romo is fantastic... spraying the ball everywhere... changing plays... He's really a cerebral guy. The game of football usually boils down to leadership and 2-3 very crucial points in a game. Throwing an INT.. at the most critical juncture of that big stage game just continues the narrative and is why Romo is who he is. Why fight this? Most sensible fans appreciate and love what he's done. He's not a failure. He's already beat the odds. A lot of sports comes down to timing, circumstances etc.. Maybe he doesn't win that SB? Maybe he'll be remembered as bridging The Cowboys from one era to the next. Why fight what he's done? Why fight that reality? He's won two playoff games in Ten years as a starter. That's it... That's the story to this point. Can't be changed.
 

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Re: Tony Romo

I'm telling you now that I don't think he's done in Dallas...certainly not this year. Dak is still a rookie and injuries still happen.

That being said, even if he IS done in Dallas, this year and forever, he has been a terrific quarterback...a great quarterback. All the criticism has been ridiculously magnified. He has been unfairly maligned. I truly, genuinely rank him among the all-time greats. He had the "misfortune" of playing at the same time as 3 other players who make that list, 2 of which are in the conversation for best ever. That creates an impossible standard. He gets graded on an insurmountably steep curve.

Some people developed their opinion of him when he bobbled the snap against Seattle in 06. They weren't able to ever get that perception out of their heads or their hearts. They missed the development of a player who became one of the best and clearly loves to play the game. Who seemed to know how blessed he was to be where he was at.

There are others who couldn't stop trying to compare him to former franchise greats. Another "misfortune" that clouded people's judgment about him, his effectiveness, his overall play. He hadn't won three Super Bowls, so he isn't Troy Aikman. He hasn't even won a Super Bowl, so he's not even Roger Staubach. Because he isn't those players, he had his support reduced even among his hometown fans. When the haters' knives came out, fewer people had his back because large parts of his potential fan base had decided to judge him based on the number of Super Bowl trophies rather than his ability to contribute to winning them.

And yet, this undrafted free agent from Northern Illinois went on to start for America's Team. He set franchise records in passing yards, and touchdowns, and wins. But, there was always the last pick he threw. For a while, he had the highest rating of any active QB (may still have it, and that's quite an accomplishment given his generational cohorts)...but there was that one time he DIDN'T drive the length of the field...twice...for touchdowns...against a top 5 defense...during an away game...in bad weather...while injured.

I've seen him return to play after breaking a rib and suffering a punctured lung. Like Daniel freakin' Laruso after Miyagi worked on his leg, Romo returned to the field. He threw a great pass to a receiver who won his roster spot on a reality TV show for a last second 77-yard catch that lead to the game winning touchdown after spending a long time in the locker room barely able to breathe. Something he still struggled to do through the pain that persisted days later. But, he suited up the next week anyway.

He took a vacation to Cabo once. It clearly signaled a lack focus and commitment. He likes to play golf. Must be because he doesn't care about the team. Whatever...

He went toe-to-toe with Payton Manning in a shootout in Denver, throwing for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards. He throws one pick at the end due to his throw being partly distrupted by the pressure the Broncos were applying, partly because of a great play by their linebacker. But even though the Cowboys offense scored 48 points and the defense did not force a single Broncos punt, it was supposedly Romo's fault that they lost.

In the face of impossible standards, he persevered. He honed his game. Cut back on the interceptions that DID somewhat cloud the early years of his starting career (though, even then, they weren't too bad). He clearly worked on himself as a man too. Antonio Romero Romo has shown how resilient, disciplined, and tough he can be...and he did for a long time on the field for the Cowboys too. When I was younger, I used to idolize football players because of their physical skills and talents. It's the same with Romo. But, now that I've gotten a bit older, I appreciate the determination it took for him to get where he's at from where he came from. And, I marvel at his ability to show grace in the face of ridiculous, unjustified criticism. Whatever happens, wherever he plays, I'll remain a Tony Romo fan.

When he's done playing, I hope he coaches...and, I hope it's with the Dallas Cowboys.
If he is here next season, he'll be a 14 million dollar backup QB.
 

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Re: Tony Romo

I'm telling you now that I don't think he's done in Dallas...certainly not this year. Dak is still a rookie and injuries still happen.

That being said, even if he IS done in Dallas, this year and forever, he has been a terrific quarterback...a great quarterback. All the criticism has been ridiculously magnified. He has been unfairly maligned. I truly, genuinely rank him among the all-time greats. He had the "misfortune" of playing at the same time as 3 other players who make that list, 2 of which are in the conversation for best ever. That creates an impossible standard. He gets graded on an insurmountably steep curve.

Some people developed their opinion of him when he bobbled the snap against Seattle in 06. They weren't able to ever get that perception out of their heads or their hearts. They missed the development of a player who became one of the best and clearly loves to play the game. Who seemed to know how blessed he was to be where he was at.

There are others who couldn't stop trying to compare him to former franchise greats. Another "misfortune" that clouded people's judgment about him, his effectiveness, his overall play. He hadn't won three Super Bowls, so he isn't Troy Aikman. He hasn't even won a Super Bowl, so he's not even Roger Staubach. Because he isn't those players, he had his support reduced even among his hometown fans. When the haters' knives came out, fewer people had his back because large parts of his potential fan base had decided to judge him based on the number of Super Bowl trophies rather than his ability to contribute to winning them.

And yet, this undrafted free agent from Northern Illinois went on to start for America's Team. He set franchise records in passing yards, and touchdowns, and wins. But, there was always the last pick he threw. For a while, he had the highest rating of any active QB (may still have it, and that's quite an accomplishment given his generational cohorts)...but there was that one time he DIDN'T drive the length of the field...twice...for touchdowns...against a top 5 defense...during an away game...in bad weather...while injured.

I've seen him return to play after breaking a rib and suffering a punctured lung. Like Daniel freakin' Laruso after Miyagi worked on his leg, Romo returned to the field. He threw a great pass to a receiver who won his roster spot on a reality TV show for a last second 77-yard catch that lead to the game winning touchdown after spending a long time in the locker room barely able to breathe. Something he still struggled to do through the pain that persisted days later. But, he suited up the next week anyway.

He took a vacation to Cabo once. It clearly signaled a lack focus and commitment. He likes to play golf. Must be because he doesn't care about the team. Whatever...

He went toe-to-toe with Payton Manning in a shootout in Denver, throwing for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards. He throws one pick at the end due to his throw being partly distrupted by the pressure the Broncos were applying, partly because of a great play by their linebacker. But even though the Cowboys offense scored 48 points and the defense did not force a single Broncos punt, it was supposedly Romo's fault that they lost.

In the face of impossible standards, he persevered. He honed his game. Cut back on the interceptions that DID somewhat cloud the early years of his starting career (though, even then, they weren't too bad). He clearly worked on himself as a man too. Antonio Romero Romo has shown how resilient, disciplined, and tough he can be...and he did for a long time on the field for the Cowboys too. When I was younger, I used to idolize football players because of their physical skills and talents. It's the same with Romo. But, now that I've gotten a bit older, I appreciate the determination it took for him to get where he's at from where he came from. And, I marvel at his ability to show grace in the face of ridiculous, unjustified criticism. Whatever happens, wherever he plays, I'll remain a Tony Romo fan.

When he's done playing, I hope he coaches...and, I hope it's with the Dallas Cowboys.
The last time I got upset when a player was traded away was Herschel Walker. Once I understood the complete trade I got over it in a hurry.
 
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His talents were wasted here, no doubt about it,,, at least he kept us entertained and gave the mouth-breathers someone to criticize besides the coach.
 

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Awesome post, OP!

I've made many of the same arguments to friends, family and fellow soldiers to no avail.

Often times, I'd ask how much did they watch, almost 100% say they don't watch the Cowboys or they hate them.

How can people have such derisive stances when they don't even watch the games he played? That's the stuff that drives me nuts about the haters !
 

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The last time I got upset when a player was traded away was Herschel Walker. Once I understood the complete trade I got over it in a hurry.

Yeah once they rescinded the players and took the picks it should have been obvious. They changed teh way the NFL values draft picks with the heist of the century.
 

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Great post OP.
Immediately followed by a classic Tony bash. lol
Unreal.
So in your first playoff game, you drive the team down for the winning TD as a QB but you come up inches short and have to kick a FG. You (the only starting QB in the league to do this) is the special teams holder for the kick. You muff it and the team loses in crushing fashion.
But heaven forbid...your freaking body language afterwards isn't all lollipops and butterflies.
So you're now even criticized about that..
People are unreal:facepalm:
 

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I'm so sick of the FG at Seattle.
That was the first year of the slick kicking ball and everyone wants to forget that.
 

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Re: Tony Romo

I'm telling you now that I don't think he's done in Dallas...certainly not this year. Dak is still a rookie and injuries still happen.

That being said, even if he IS done in Dallas, this year and forever, he has been a terrific quarterback...a great quarterback. All the criticism has been ridiculously magnified. He has been unfairly maligned. I truly, genuinely rank him among the all-time greats. He had the "misfortune" of playing at the same time as 3 other players who make that list, 2 of which are in the conversation for best ever. That creates an impossible standard. He gets graded on an insurmountably steep curve.

Some people developed their opinion of him when he bobbled the snap against Seattle in 06. They weren't able to ever get that perception out of their heads or their hearts. They missed the development of a player who became one of the best and clearly loves to play the game. Who seemed to know how blessed he was to be where he was at.

There are others who couldn't stop trying to compare him to former franchise greats. Another "misfortune" that clouded people's judgment about him, his effectiveness, his overall play. He hadn't won three Super Bowls, so he isn't Troy Aikman. He hasn't even won a Super Bowl, so he's not even Roger Staubach. Because he isn't those players, he had his support reduced even among his hometown fans. When the haters' knives came out, fewer people had his back because large parts of his potential fan base had decided to judge him based on the number of Super Bowl trophies rather than his ability to contribute to winning them.

And yet, this undrafted free agent from Northern Illinois went on to start for America's Team. He set franchise records in passing yards, and touchdowns, and wins. But, there was always the last pick he threw. For a while, he had the highest rating of any active QB (may still have it, and that's quite an accomplishment given his generational cohorts)...but there was that one time he DIDN'T drive the length of the field...twice...for touchdowns...against a top 5 defense...during an away game...in bad weather...while injured.

I've seen him return to play after breaking a rib and suffering a punctured lung. Like Daniel freakin' Laruso after Miyagi worked on his leg, Romo returned to the field. He threw a great pass to a receiver who won his roster spot on a reality TV show for a last second 77-yard catch that lead to the game winning touchdown after spending a long time in the locker room barely able to breathe. Something he still struggled to do through the pain that persisted days later. But, he suited up the next week anyway.

He took a vacation to Cabo once. It clearly signaled a lack focus and commitment. He likes to play golf. Must be because he doesn't care about the team. Whatever...

He went toe-to-toe with Payton Manning in a shootout in Denver, throwing for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards. He throws one pick at the end due to his throw being partly distrupted by the pressure the Broncos were applying, partly because of a great play by their linebacker. But even though the Cowboys offense scored 48 points and the defense did not force a single Broncos punt, it was supposedly Romo's fault that they lost.

In the face of impossible standards, he persevered. He honed his game. Cut back on the interceptions that DID somewhat cloud the early years of his starting career (though, even then, they weren't too bad). He clearly worked on himself as a man too. Antonio Romero Romo has shown how resilient, disciplined, and tough he can be...and he did for a long time on the field for the Cowboys too. When I was younger, I used to idolize football players because of their physical skills and talents. It's the same with Romo. But, now that I've gotten a bit older, I appreciate the determination it took for him to get where he's at from where he came from. And, I marvel at his ability to show grace in the face of ridiculous, unjustified criticism. Whatever happens, wherever he plays, I'll remain a Tony Romo fan.

When he's done playing, I hope he coaches...and, I hope it's with the Dallas Cowboys.

Agree
 

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The last time I got upset when a player was traded away was Herschel Walker. Once I understood the complete trade I got over it in a hurry.

Well since then big change is a fact now,what if any value can we get for Tony.
Wouldanother team take on his contract with his injury history? Can we get a 1st.
 

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I'm so sick of the FG at Seattle.
That was the first year of the slick kicking ball and everyone wants to forget that.
I have no heart break at all over that FG. There is no doubt in my mind that had the kick been successful the defense would have allowed Seattle to drive and win the game anyway. Hell, there was still plenty of time to stop Seattle on a 3 and out and easily win the game, but even knowing the Seahawks would run through defense gave up a huge run to end the game.

Same for the Dez catch in GB for me. there is zero doubt in my mind the defense would have allowed TD anyway, so I'm not at all worried about that crappy call.
 

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Re: Tony Romo

I'm telling you now that I don't think he's done in Dallas...certainly not this year. Dak is still a rookie and injuries still happen.

That being said, even if he IS done in Dallas, this year and forever, he has been a terrific quarterback...a great quarterback. All the criticism has been ridiculously magnified. He has been unfairly maligned. I truly, genuinely rank him among the all-time greats. He had the "misfortune" of playing at the same time as 3 other players who make that list, 2 of which are in the conversation for best ever. That creates an impossible standard. He gets graded on an insurmountably steep curve.

Some people developed their opinion of him when he bobbled the snap against Seattle in 06. They weren't able to ever get that perception out of their heads or their hearts. They missed the development of a player who became one of the best and clearly loves to play the game. Who seemed to know how blessed he was to be where he was at.

There are others who couldn't stop trying to compare him to former franchise greats. Another "misfortune" that clouded people's judgment about him, his effectiveness, his overall play. He hadn't won three Super Bowls, so he isn't Troy Aikman. He hasn't even won a Super Bowl, so he's not even Roger Staubach. Because he isn't those players, he had his support reduced even among his hometown fans. When the haters' knives came out, fewer people had his back because large parts of his potential fan base had decided to judge him based on the number of Super Bowl trophies rather than his ability to contribute to winning them.

And yet, this undrafted free agent from Northern Illinois went on to start for America's Team. He set franchise records in passing yards, and touchdowns, and wins. But, there was always the last pick he threw. For a while, he had the highest rating of any active QB (may still have it, and that's quite an accomplishment given his generational cohorts)...but there was that one time he DIDN'T drive the length of the field...twice...for touchdowns...against a top 5 defense...during an away game...in bad weather...while injured.

I've seen him return to play after breaking a rib and suffering a punctured lung. Like Daniel freakin' Laruso after Miyagi worked on his leg, Romo returned to the field. He threw a great pass to a receiver who won his roster spot on a reality TV show for a last second 77-yard catch that lead to the game winning touchdown after spending a long time in the locker room barely able to breathe. Something he still struggled to do through the pain that persisted days later. But, he suited up the next week anyway.

He took a vacation to Cabo once. It clearly signaled a lack focus and commitment. He likes to play golf. Must be because he doesn't care about the team. Whatever...

He went toe-to-toe with Payton Manning in a shootout in Denver, throwing for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards. He throws one pick at the end due to his throw being partly distrupted by the pressure the Broncos were applying, partly because of a great play by their linebacker. But even though the Cowboys offense scored 48 points and the defense did not force a single Broncos punt, it was supposedly Romo's fault that they lost.

In the face of impossible standards, he persevered. He honed his game. Cut back on the interceptions that DID somewhat cloud the early years of his starting career (though, even then, they weren't too bad). He clearly worked on himself as a man too. Antonio Romero Romo has shown how resilient, disciplined, and tough he can be...and he did for a long time on the field for the Cowboys too. When I was younger, I used to idolize football players because of their physical skills and talents. It's the same with Romo. But, now that I've gotten a bit older, I appreciate the determination it took for him to get where he's at from where he came from. And, I marvel at his ability to show grace in the face of ridiculous, unjustified criticism. Whatever happens, wherever he plays, I'll remain a Tony Romo fan.

When he's done playing, I hope he coaches...and, I hope it's with the Dallas Cowboys.
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If he is here next season, he'll be a 14 million dollar backup QB.
That's why he won't be here. Hopefully he can go somewhere and get a ring and we can get a few picks for him. Love Tony but just like ware, they all go or retire eventually
 

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Tony didn't help matters by saying that 'in 10 years, people won't even remember me' as well as saying that he is a big play QB and turnovers come with being a big play QB and was rather nonchalant about it. He also had poor body language at times, like after the botched snap against the Seahawks.

He started to overcome that stuff a little in 2009, then had some body language issues in 2010, but then started to really take that stuff to heart and turn things around in 2011. I think if he was QB'ing for any other team, it would not blow out of proportion, but the spotlight is always on the Dallas QB. Something tells me that Dak won't have that same body language.

I really think in the end, bad coaching did him in. Sure, Garrett is 'arriving' now (I still don't quite feel 100% confident in Garrett), but it took him a long time to do so. I think a lot of this stuff with Romo never happens if Parcells stayed as coach or if we had hired Jim Harbaugh or Bruce Arians.




YR

don't forget he is short and can't see over the lineman...Right?
 

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Throwing an INT.. at the most critical juncture of that big stage game just continues the narrative and is why Romo is who he is. Why fight this? Most sensible fans appreciate and love what he's done. He's not a failure. He's already beat the odds. A lot of sports comes down to timing, circumstances etc.. Maybe he doesn't win that SB? Maybe he'll be remembered as bridging The Cowboys from one era to the next. Why fight what he's done? Why fight that reality? He's won two playoff games in Ten years as a starter. That's it... That's the story to this point. Can't be changed.

Why fight this false narrative that Tony Romo is the choker that can't win when it matters most? Hmmm..good question. Maybe because Tony Romo has more come from behind 4th quarter victories than any other active QB? Or maybe because he has the highest 4th quarter QB rating in NFL history? Or maybe because he has the 3rd highest QB rating in NFL history?
Or maybe it's because judging a QB only by how many playoff victory his TEAM has is serious surface level thinking that is nothing more than a shock media talking point to get surface thinking viewers who would tune you out if you actually tried to educate them on the game.

Show me a person or fan who believes the narrative you presented and I will show you someone who doesn't practice any level of critical thinking and real understanding of the game.
 
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