Unpopular Football Opinions That You Have

[RS12]

I agree, Terry Glenn was a great contributor during his time here. Really dynamic player that we haven't replaced. Outside of Witten, easily the 2nd most reliable receiver Romo has thrown to.

Yep, she was as underated player and nice contributor here. Believe they beat the Giants and they make Superbowl with Glenn opposite TO in 07.

 

[CutMeMick]

Joe Montana is overrated & NOT the greatest QB of all time.

That honor belongs to John Elway.

 

[bbgun]

Unpopular Football Opinions That You Have

Why start now? :laugh1:

 

[jazzcat22]

1. Donovan McNabb is a great QB.

I think he's a massive under-achiever, given that he's had the benefit of playing QB in the vaunted and over-hyped West Coast Offense. Plus, playing his entire career in one place with one HC. Also, whenever the "he never had talent around him" bull comes up, nobody talks about how the Eagles defense is perennially one of the best in the league, year in and year out. He's a spoiled little brat who has been pouting ever since they booed him at the draft, and he plays that card whenever he feels dissed. He pouts and whines and sulks whenever the entire franchise does anything less than fawn all over him.

2. The genius of the "West Coast Offense".

Russ Francis, the "All World" tight end of yesteryear has ties in Hawaii and had his own sports talk show back in the 90's. One day, he's going on and on and on about how the WCO has won championships at every level, everywhere it's been employed.
So I call him and ask "Where has it won except in SF?" After calling me a few choice names and being embarassed, he had no answer and of course hung up on me.
Because the hoax called the West Coast Offense, that you'd swear that the Lord himself revealed to Bill Walsh, has won NOWHERE else except in SF under Walsh. And before you mention the Packers under Holmgren, Holmgren himself adamantly denied it and claimed his own version of an offense that won a SB.
They talk about how Bill Walsh's offense and people have spread about all over the NFL and brought his "genius" to over a dozen other NFL teams. Yet, for all the tentacles of the "brilliant" WCO that was supposed to change the entire game, it is now pretty faded-out with not a SINGLE other championship trophy to it's credit. It was nothing more than an ESPN love-fest over the Whiners for 15 years, and a WAY overhyped offense that won NOT because of the "genius" of the scheme, but the players that the Niners had on board for over a decade.

3. Brett Favre is an all-time great QB.

Total bull.

Brett Favre enjoyed a small window of success during the middle part of his career, lasting 6-7 years. And it all has to do with Mike Holmgren.

The earlier years of his career, he was a heart-attack and nightmare under center just waiting to happen. That's why the Falcons let him go. He got early press in Green Bay for his flamboyant and nerve-racking style and his "folksy" thing. Mike Holmgren came aboard and had to LITERALLY wrestle him down and tie him to a very short leash to avoid catastrophe.

He "thrived" I guess, under Holmgren. But you could trace the "pre-Holmgren" and "post-Holmgren" stats and W-L data, and it's clear that Favre is a "just don't lose the game" type of QB. What you never hear in all the stat talk about Favre is that he's also the all-time leader in INT's.
He'll make the HOF for sure, because John Madden will throw a personal hissy-fit if ANYONE votes "no" on the first ballot. Give him credit for playing for as long as he did and padding those stats and numbers. He gets "iron man" points for that.

He also gets an extra 40-50% bumb for playing in Green Bay. Anything above average in Green Bay is overblown and vaunted to the heavens, with visions of "The Frozen Tundra", "Lambeau Field", Vince Lombardi, etc, etc, etc.........If he played his career in say, San Diego or Kansas City or Detriot, he'd be good but not the "god" they make him out to be. I wouldn't take him as a QB as a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, even in his prime. Too dangerous.

McNabb, right on, and who was it that said the media was trying to make him the NFL darling, or whatever is was...Rush Limbaugh...I agree and so does the majority of everyone else at the time and still do now. They just are afraid to agree in public....

Walsh, yes, overated with the WCO crap, but that's so long ago it doesn't bother me that much anymore. But it is tiring of the SF homers and ex players, which I do believe it was in their contracts to be Dallas haters in their days of broadcasting.....no matter what...

Favre, well if he was ever a Cowboy, and as long as he would be, we NEVER would have won a home game. Hey, only stating the fact that he never won at Texas Stadium.....

 

[CowboyMike]

1. Donovan McNabb is a great QB.

I think he's a massive under-achiever, given that he's had the benefit of playing QB in the vaunted and over-hyped West Coast Offense. Plus, playing his entire career in one place with one HC. Also, whenever the "he never had talent around him" bull comes up, nobody talks about how the Eagles defense is perennially one of the best in the league, year in and year out. He's a spoiled little brat who has been pouting ever since they booed him at the draft, and he plays that card whenever he feels dissed. He pouts and whines and sulks whenever the entire franchise does anything less than fawn all over him.

2. The genius of the "West Coast Offense".

Russ Francis, the "All World" tight end of yesteryear has ties in Hawaii and had his own sports talk show back in the 90's. One day, he's going on and on and on about how the WCO has won championships at every level, everywhere it's been employed.
So I call him and ask "Where has it won except in SF?" After calling me a few choice names and being embarassed, he had no answer and of course hung up on me.
Because the hoax called the West Coast Offense, that you'd swear that the Lord himself revealed to Bill Walsh, has won NOWHERE else except in SF under Walsh. And before you mention the Packers under Holmgren, Holmgren himself adamantly denied it and claimed his own version of an offense that won a SB.
They talk about how Bill Walsh's offense and people have spread about all over the NFL and brought his "genius" to over a dozen other NFL teams. Yet, for all the tentacles of the "brilliant" WCO that was supposed to change the entire game, it is now pretty faded-out with not a SINGLE other championship trophy to it's credit. It was nothing more than an ESPN love-fest over the Whiners for 15 years, and a WAY overhyped offense that won NOT because of the "genius" of the scheme, but the players that the Niners had on board for over a decade.

3. Brett Favre is an all-time great QB.

Total bull.

Brett Favre enjoyed a small window of success during the middle part of his career, lasting 6-7 years. And it all has to do with Mike Holmgren.

The earlier years of his career, he was a heart-attack and nightmare under center just waiting to happen. That's why the Falcons let him go. He got early press in Green Bay for his flamboyant and nerve-racking style and his "folksy" thing. Mike Holmgren came aboard and had to LITERALLY wrestle him down and tie him to a very short leash to avoid catastrophe.

He "thrived" I guess, under Holmgren. But you could trace the "pre-Holmgren" and "post-Holmgren" stats and W-L data, and it's clear that Favre is a "just don't lose the game" type of QB. What you never hear in all the stat talk about Favre is that he's also the all-time leader in INT's.
He'll make the HOF for sure, because John Madden will throw a personal hissy-fit if ANYONE votes "no" on the first ballot. Give him credit for playing for as long as he did and padding those stats and numbers. He gets "iron man" points for that.

He also gets an extra 40-50% bumb for playing in Green Bay. Anything above average in Green Bay is overblown and vaunted to the heavens, with visions of "The Frozen Tundra", "Lambeau Field", Vince Lombardi, etc, etc, etc.........If he played his career in say, San Diego or Kansas City or Detriot, he'd be good but not the "god" they make him out to be. I wouldn't take him as a QB as a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, even in his prime. Too dangerous.

:bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo:

 

[BrassCowboy]

well, since you asked:

- MB III should be the closer in the running game with Felix at #1, and Tashard at #2. If that means we should trade MB III to do so, then so be it.

- Jason Hatcher needs to start over Spears at DE.

- And Romo is much better QB in December than everyone is making him out to be. He is WAY over blamed for our woahs then.

- and barring a SB this year, Wade should be replaced.

EDIT:: you did mean Dallas players right?

 

[lewpac]

well, since you asked:

- MB III should be the closer in the running game with Felix at #1, and Tashard at #2. If that means we should trade MB III to do so, then so be it.

- Jason Hatcher needs to start over Spears at DE.

- And Romo is much better QB in December than everyone is making him out to be. He is WAY over blamed for our woahs then.

- and barring a SB this year, Wade should be replaced.

That's a good post.

Although, I don't think replacing Wade Phillips is as unpopular an opinion as you think it is. I believe that the majority of Cowboy fans got this Phillips/Garrett experiment on a "one more and you're done" schedule. I know I do.

Great opinion about the RB situation though. Turn Choice and Felix loose and bring in Barber ala the Jones days on short yardage or goal-line stuff.

 

[rockj7]

This guy grew up to be our current coach

 

[jazzcat22]

This guy grew up to be our current coach

That just says he was ahead of his time....they didn't have those games back when he was growing up....child genius?

 

[rockj7]

That just says he was ahead of his time....they didn't have those games back when he was growing up....child genius?

Jazzcat22 when I saw that pic the first thing I thought of was Wade. I knew I was going to get points taken off for the futuristic Nintendo but I had to go for it the resemblance is uncanny.

 

[DWhite Fan]

1. Carson Palmer is one of the most over-rated QBs in the history of the league.

2. Mel Renfro DID NOT TOUCH Unitas' pass that John Mackey caught for a TD in Super Bowl V!

3. I wish Hines Ward played for the Dallas Cowboys.

4. Donavan McNabb is as much to blame for the circus that took place in Philly as T.O.

5. The Dallas Cowboys would have went to and won Super Bowl XXX without Dieon Sanders.

6. I hate free-agency!!!! I long for the days of NFL dynasties

 

[Apollo Creed]

Good thread

Since I did such a great job of talking about how wrong I was on players in the past, here are some opinions that I have recently hit on and some that are yet to be proven.

My opionions proven correct:

-Michael Vick will never be a franchise QB
-Vince Young will never be a franchise QB
-Philip Rivers will be a franchise QB (not completely proven yet but I believe he is a sure bet)
-Jay Cutler will be a franchise QB (ditto)

Opinions still up in the air

-Mark Sanchez will be the best QB out of this draft and a franchise signal caller in the NFL
-The New York Giants will NOT make the playoffs in 2009 and WILL get swept by the Dallas Cowboys
-Desean Jackson is no more than a #2 WR in the NFL
-Miles Austin will step up and have a big year and will be a better WR than Djax.

I agree with almost everything you said.

Rivers is a solid QB but he is in a very QB friendly system, and he's been handing to one of the best backs in football his entire career. He's also got a very reliable TE, one of the best in the game at adjusting and catching anything in the air. Rivers may have won some playoff games but I think Romo is a much better player.

DeSean Jackson has proven he's a # 1 guy in this league, great deep threat and the guy has serious moves. Home run threats like him are few and far between. The real question is - will that puny frame hold up the test of time in this league?

 

[birdwells1]

Terry Glenn is the best receiver we have had since mike retired.

Come on now.

 

[JBS]

I agree with almost everything you said.

Rivers is a solid QB but he is in a very QB friendly system, and he's been handing to one of the best backs in football his entire career. He's also got a very reliable TE, one of the best in the game at adjusting and catching anything in the air. Rivers may have won some playoff games but I think Romo is a much better player.

DeSean Jackson has proven he's a # 1 guy in this league, great deep threat and the guy has serious moves. Home run threats like him are few and far between. The real question is - will that puny frame hold up the test of time in this league?

LT had his worst season ever last season and Philip Rivers stepped up for that team and had his best season to date.

Desean Jackson had an outstanding rookie campaign, however, to claim that he has proven he is a #1 WR in the NFL is a stretch. Will he get there? He could, my guess is he will not. The kid faded down the stretch of last year, outside of his deep threat abilities he does not have much else to offer as a WR. He is an outstanding punt returner though.

 

[Wayfaring Stranger]

Excellent thread.


I have a problem with a lot of the NFL rules, I am anti-establishment by nature.

I disagree with the kneel down rule where teams attempt to run out the clock at half-time and at the end of games by kneeling on the ball. I think you should have to make an attempt to advance the ball beyond the line of scrimmage rather than just kneeling on it.

In that same vein I don't like the spike rule where teams attempt to stop the clock by snapping the ball and then quickly spiking it into the ground. Again, you should have to attempt to pass the ball to a legal receiver, or be called for grounding.

Also, I think the extra point attempt should be moved back to the 15 or 20 yard line to increase the challenge and difficulty, add more suspense and strategy to the game. Currently the success rate of extra point attempts is probably in the high 90's.

Lastly, have all 53 active, or at least as many as the team with the most inactive players. In other words, if a team has 5 injured players that week, than the other 31 teams get to have a 48 man roster (53-5) for that week instead of a fixed 45 man roster the entire season.

 

[Apollo Creed]

LT had his worst season ever last season and Philip Rivers stepped up for that team and had his best season to date.

Desean Jackson had an outstanding rookie campaign, however, to claim that he has proven he is a #1 WR in the NFL is a stretch. Will he get there? He could, my guess is he will not. The kid faded down the stretch of last year, outside of his deep threat abilities he does not have much else to offer as a WR. He is an outstanding punt returner though.

Don't forget that Sproles stepped in nicely, LT has made his transition to the NFL relatively easy (Michael Turner too). Norv is a very QB friendly coach. You put him in Dallas and we don't have any different results, we'd actually be worse because he's much less mobile than Romo.

He is really whiney too.

 

[JBS]

Don't forget that Sproles stepped in nicely, LT has made his transition to the NFL relatively easy (Michael Turner too). Norv is a very QB friendly coach. You put him in Dallas and we don't have any different results, we'd actually be worse because he's much less mobile than Romo.

He is really whiney too.

I don't believe Rivers is better than Romo, but I think the world of Romo so that is not saying much.

 

[JBS]

As far as your sproles assessment, he didn't do much of anything in the regular season to take some of the pressure off of Rivers. The more I look into it the more impressed I am with how well Rivers played last year. The kid is a stud.

 

[Danny White]

I don't care what his stats were... Steve Young was a sucky QB.

I'm not even going to bother defending this opinion (probably because I can't, but damn it just feels good to say!)

 

[GalvestonCowboyFan]

I second many of these sentiments, but especially the one about Big Ben. Honestly, he might slightly below average. I know, look at the rings, blah blah blah, but his first year he was almost never asked to throw downfield, the supporting cast has been mentioned (he's in a Dilfer-like situation with the great D), and last year he really played pretty poorly overall. I think luck is just a big part of the game, and Big Ben has gotten lucky twice. Also, remember how good Leftwich looked when he came in for them.

1. Our enormous, slightly elderly O-line is built to crush defenses in September, and pant heavily in December, accounting for most of the famous late-season swoon (unfortunately, as much as I love him, this is particularly true for Flozell). I hope I'm wrong, because we haven't addressed the line very much. Fingers crossed that an emphasis on the run game will somehow make this better next season.

2. Anthony Spencer may be our best OLB. This one is gonna get me flamed, and I almost feel like I deserve it... but it is truly my opinion, and that is the topic here. DWare is a fantastic speed rusher... killer, and he is almost a lock-down when it comes to holding his edge, but he is not unblockable at all, last year many, many of his sacks were coverage sacks, and Ratliff's pressure inflated his numbers a bit too. He can kill certain tackles (even some great ones like Walter Jones), but sometimes he doesn't figure much in a game even without a doubleteam (I've watched). He's very, very, very good, but I don't think he's the second coming of Lawrence Taylor at all. And Spencer, from everything I've seen, is actually a similar player with a little less speed and a good bit more power, who can also shut down his edge of the line to the sweep but seems a little more versatile when rushing than DWare. Of course, he has maybe 4 1/2 sacks, so I have to base this off of potential rather than production, but I still wonder if he isn't going to turn out to be an even better player than Ware himself.

Don't get me wrong though... Ware is a fantastic player with a just about complete game (he can freaking cover the running backs downfield, geez) and I like almost everything about him; but he isn't the union of Deacon Jones and Dick Butkus that he's made out to be.