Vela: Crazy from the heat -- the Larry Johnson to Dallas rumor

[Future]

Although I also disagree about bringing him here, the guy is a superstar like it or not. I would never be opposed to at least exploring the option of bringing a guy like him to Dallas.

 

[burmafrd]

The point someone forgot about the wear and tear is that NFL RECORD 416 carries he had last year. And its not like he was resting the previous year. Only one back in NFL history had even close to that number of carries and still did well later on. Are we really willing to gamble that LJ is the other exception?

 

[Vintage]

The point someone forgot about the wear and tear is that NFL RECORD 416 carries he had last year. And its not like he was resting the previous year. Only one back in NFL history had even close to that number of carries and still did well later on. Are we really willing to gamble that LJ is the other exception?

The problem is that the KC OL is going to be pretty bad this year. Furthermore, Croyle is the starter in KC and defenses will play 8 in the box.

Larry Johnson's stats will suffer.

And this will be overlooked and people will say its because LJ is breaking down.

 

[burmafrd]

So what?

 

[xpistofer]

I would trade antonio bryant for johnson in a hurry...
oh wait we turned down that deal a few years ago....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

First I will say that I seriously doubt we would trade for Johnson but Vela reasoning definitely have flaws.

1. Adams is a good LT, not great just good. He has knee problems with the clean out of the knee just recently. He should be our LT this year but I doubt beyond that. If I remember correctly he started as a rookie on the right side so if he were traded would it surprise anyone to see either Davis or Colombo move to LT for awhile if McQuistan didn't pan out. It is not as if there is only one choice if Adams is traded.

Vela noted at least twice that Flozell could be good as gone next year, he's saying you hang onto good LTs because there aren't many, for as long as you reasonably can, even if it's just for 1 more season, esp. when Romo is going to need that protection since in an essence, this is his make-or-break year

2. Johnson would not carry the full load here. He would alternative with a proven commodity in Barber, thus far less carries and a more rested Johnson. Yes, Johnson isn't shifty but Jones and Barber are? Lets be real. And what has Garrett said time and again, timing passing and power running. Sorry but if the choice is the power runner Johnson or the power runner Jones, guess which one am taking.

so pay a ridiculous contract to a part-time back? and besides, we probably would have to throw in Barber since he's not an impending FA, and is probably more attractive a back than Jones

bottomline, Johnson is a back w/ alot of mileage on him who reasonably could break down at any time w/in the next 2 or 3 years, hell, Jamal Lewis was only 28 about 3 years ago too, and he's been broken down for 2 years running now, it's not worth the cost of a trade or contract

edit: yikes, Jamal Lewis was 26 when he started breaking down and is only 28 now

 

[iceberg]

Put me solidly in the no thanks no way crowd. Geez...what is this Madden 2007?

no. then we would have gotten him for Dat.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

2. Johnson would not carry the full load here. He would alternative with a proven commodity in Barber, thus far less carries and a more rested Johnson. Yes, Johnson isn't shifty but Jones and Barber are? Lets be real. And what has Garrett said time and again, timing passing and power running. Sorry but if the choice is the power runner Johnson or the power runner Jones, guess which one am taking.

I don't know the reason Jones isn't like he was as a rookie, but come on. Let us be real here. How are you going to say Jones isn't shifty

 

[dargonking999]

I would trade antonio bryant for johnson in a hurry...
oh wait we turned down that deal a few years ago....

yea it's real easy to look back and say we should have traded our starting WR, for a backup RB that had his coach telling him to stop wearing diapers.

That was so stupid of us to pass that trade up

 

[xpistofer]

yea it's real easy to look back and say we should have traded our starting WR, for a backup RB that had his coach telling him to stop wearing diapers.

That was so stupid of us to pass that trade up

of course you are right...i wouldn't say it was stupid at all...just that hindsight is 20/20..not that i think the guy (LJ) is great, but AB turned out to be alot less....

so, as i said before...

 

[dargonking999]

of course you are right...i wouldn't say it was stupid at all...just that hindsight is 20/20..not that i think the guy (LJ) is great, but AB turned out to be alot less....

so, as i said before...

And of course the cowboys saw all of this with their crystal ball right?

 

[Sandyf]

Glad alot of folks weren't making decisions for the Boys when Emmitt had close to 1300 carries his first four years because using the logic here he was going to breakdown at any time.

Guess he did 11 years later.

I know we won't get Johnson, but IF Jerry were to make that trade and KC was stupid enough to let him go then I would be extremely happy about getting him.

In KC case they would be idiots because he is their franchise and without him they would just be rebuilding, not that they aren't anyway.

I agree on Flo for Romo's sake but wonder what everyone would say if Adams gets beat out in training camp. Not likely but it could happen.

 

[dargonking999]

Glad alot of folks weren't making decisions for the Boys when Emmitt had close to 1300 carries his first four years because using the logic here he was going to breakdown at any time.

Guess he did 11 years later.

I know we won't get Johnson, but IF Jerry were to make that trade and KC was stupid enough to let him go then I would be extremely happy about getting him.

In KC case they would be idiots because he is their franchise and without him they would just be rebuilding, not that they aren't anyway.

I agree on Flo for Romo's sake but wonder what everyone would say if Adams gets beat out in training camp. Not likely but it could happen.

1300 carries in 4 years, averages out to a little more than 300 carries per season. not 400+

 

[burmafrd]

370 has been shown to be the break point. though probably it will vary from player to player some. LJ had 416. Now MAYBE since he did not have a lot of carries his first couple of years that makes a difference. BUT he did have quite a few in college. A LOT of top backs had a huge number of carries in college and then go straight into the NFL doing the same. THOSE are probably the players that break down first.

 

[ZeroClub]

LJ would be a huge addition.

Right now, he'd cost too much in trade and in salary. There is a small chance that he'd be more affordable within the next few months.

I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not holding my breath either.

 

[dargonking999]

LJ would be a huge addition.

Right now, he'd cost too much in trade and in salary. There is a small chance that he'd be more affordable within the next few months.

I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not holding my breath either.

I wouldn't hold my breath either. Cause then i'd die

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Glad alot of folks weren't making decisions for the Boys when Emmitt had close to 1300 carries his first four years because using the logic here he was going to breakdown at any time.

Guess he did 11 years later.

I know we won't get Johnson, but IF Jerry were to make that trade and KC was stupid enough to let him go then I would be extremely happy about getting him.

In KC case they would be idiots because he is their franchise and without him they would just be rebuilding, not that they aren't anyway.

I agree on Flo for Romo's sake but wonder what everyone would say if Adams gets beat out in training camp. Not likely but it could happen.

In addition to what Dragon mentioned, Emmitt and LJ are different backs with different running styles. LJ is a punishing runner but he also sustains a lot of punishment. Emmitt was very difficult to get clean hits on. The amount of punishment Emmitt took over his career is a big reason why he was able to last so long. LJ, IMO, will never see that kind of longevity in his career because of the way he runs the ball.