Vela: On Kosier's value, McQuistan, interior backups...

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Now We’re Gonna Remember “the Other Guy’s” Name

August 23, 2008



Remember that old Seinfeld joke about The Three Tenors, where the cast members could all recall Luciano Pavarotti and Placido Domingo but couldn’t remember, “the other guy?”

Kyle Kosier has been “the other guy” on the Cowboys Five Redwoods line. People know Flozell Adams, Leonard Davis and Andre Gurode. They’re Pro Bowlers. We even mention Marc Colombo’s name, since tackles are visible on the edge and since he’s had a good camp.

People tend to ignore Kosier, except to rip him for being the guy who succeeded Larry Allen. When he was signed some folks posted links to YouTube clips of him getting beaten in his 49ers days, when he played out of position at tackle.

Come draft day, he’s always a whipping boy, whom some people are itching to bench. Last year there was a special section of bloggers here just dying to draft Texas’ Justin Blalock and drop him into Kosier’s spot, though Blalock was unproven.

In the meantime, Kosier has become the steady Eddie of the line, playing a solid, consistent left guard. He’s this decade’s John Gesek, the “other guy” from the ’90s,who toiled alongside bigger names like Erik Williams, Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei and Mark Stepnoski.

Last week, I mentioned that the Cowboys’ weakness is their interior offensive line depth. That fact could be rudely demonstrated next week against the Vikings because Kosier has suffered an apparent foot sprain and has an MRI scheduled for this afternoon to learn its severity.

Pray it’s not serious because the team needs him. The backups in the interior line, Joe Berger, Cory Procter and James Marten has been consistently underwhelming. Procter and Marten have looked just awful thus far and a source I spoke to this week, one who has seen game tape of the San Diego and Denver games, seconded that opinion. He also said Joe Berger had a poor performance against Denver.

I watched their games last night, brief as they were — the trio did not play until the last two series in the 4th quarter. I’m sorry to report that nothing has improved.

Berger and Procter are consistently being pushed backwards by bull rushes. This is a big no-no for an interior lineman. If you can’t anchor, how can your QB step up in the pocket and throw? Marten has had a lot of trouble handing quick interior rushers.

In short, I don’t trust any of these guys to sub in the absence of Kosier, Gurode or Davis. If Kosier’s injury is serious, I think the team might move RT Pat McQuistan to left guard. He worked at multiple positions in camp, but took most of his reps at RT and LG. He’s bigger and more athletic than any of the other three guys and played guard in college.

The Cowboys can’t afford any interior line leaks. The Vikings have two massive, athletic DTs in Pat Williams and Kevin Williams. They’re probably the best DT duo in football right now. If the Cowboys have to put Berger in at left guard I’m not confident he can keep the Williams boys off Tony Romo without center help. If Kosier isn’t around for the season opener, new Brown and former Lion Shaun Rogers will be lined up over Berger a lot.

It’s said you often don’t know what you have till it’s gone. If Kosier is gone for any appreciable amount of time, Cowboys fans may learn what he’s really worth — the hard way.

Written by: Rafael Vela
 

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If nobody steps up, Kyle Kosier is going to have an amazing upsurge in popularity on Cowboys message boards.

I've wanted Pat McQuistan to challenge for K2's job the past two camps, but I don't know if he or Joe Berger will be given first crack at the task. Neither has experience, so it may be rough sailing in the month of September.

Just have to hope for the best.
 

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What I find amazing is there are people like myself (yes I'll take the heat either way) that were clamoring for the Cowboys to address the OL on draft day but were told time and time again by others that there is no room and no need, "we have to many young players who can step in" yet now that we need one of them, it seems we don't have any.

How much of a steal would Carl Nicks be in the 5th round at this point as it looks as if he has a real chance to take the starting spot over from LG Jamar Nesbit in New Orleans or better yet because I'm not willing to give back Scandrick, Barry Richardson who went to KC in the 6th round and has been kicked inside to RG and fighting Adrian Jones for the starting spot! I would give Walden up for Richardson.

I know, the draft is over. It's just times like this that create those could haves. Overall, no complaints though, good draft class.
 

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If tony romo is playing against the vikings this week there really is something wrong.

I dont expect either williams to be playing thursday, no one plays this last game.

We had better find somebody who can do it, it would be a shame to start slow because this team couldnt get anything out of the backups, at guard no less.
 

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This last preseason game is absolutely meaningless. None of the starters should even suit up. Let the backups play the whole game. I'm serious. No way should Romo play at all this last preseason game. Bartel needs the work. Let Bartel start and play all 4 qtrs.
 

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ninja;2210533 said:
This last preseason game is absolutely meaningless. None of the starters should even suit up. Let the backups play the whole game. I'm serious. No way should Romo play at all this last preseason game. Bartel needs the work. Let Bartel start and play all 4 qtrs.

No kidding, start Bartel and every backup OL we have. Someone needs to step up and now is the time to find out who wants it most. Same goes for RB, let Choice and Lattimore take every carry.
 

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I hope Dallas does put McQuistan in at guard for Kosier. I think he's the best option. We have been hearing about how the team likes him. Now, it is time to find out. I think he could do a good job if given a chance. You have to put him in there and let him swim.

If Berger couldn't stay on the roster at Miami when Houk was there, how can he get the job done while starting in Dallas? Vela asks this question on his blog. I have to give him credit for bringing it up.
 

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juckie;2210778 said:
What about that Free or martin?

Yeah. There were reports during training camp that they were looking at Free at left guard. He's had far more positive reports than any one of the other young guys outside of McQuistan.
 

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41gy#;2210482 said:
The Cowboys can’t afford any interior line leaks. The Vikings have two massive, athletic DTs in Pat Williams and Kevin Williams. They’re probably the best DT duo in football right now. If the Cowboys have to put Berger in at left guard I’m not confident he can keep the Williams boys off Tony Romo without center help.
I'm not worried about the Viqueens at all. That just another preseason game which the starters won't play much.

Cleveland is a different story.
 

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I don't think the replacement is on the roster yet.

This team has solid depth at a few positions which could be traded away for a lineman.

I was hoping the team would look at Toniu Fonoti during the offseason but he ended up in Carolina.

I'd give them a call and see if they'd be interested in a trade.
 

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stasheroo;2210945 said:
I don't think the replacement is on the roster yet.

This team has solid depth at a few positions which could be traded away for a lineman.

I was hoping the team would look at Toniu Fonoti during the offseason but he ended up in Carolina.

I'd give them a call and see if they'd be interested in a trade.
:banghead:
 

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stasheroo;2210945 said:
I don't think the replacement is on the roster yet.

This team has solid depth at a few positions which could be traded away for a lineman.

I was hoping the team would look at Toniu Fonoti during the offseason but he ended up in Carolina.

I'd give them a call and see if they'd be interested in a trade.


I was hoping for the same, but I don't think Panthers will let him go. They are weak in their interior OL too and prefer the same type of OGs that we do, big mauling types.
 
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