Very interesting comments from Stephen Jones during season-ticket call

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This is where I saw it:

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleveland-browns-releasing-jonathan-cooper-is-puzzling-122816

Looks like FoxSports picked it up from Fansided... whatever that is. I don't vouch for it's accuracy or bias.

As expected , from Dawg Pound Daily. Great source for impartial Brown news...

:rolleyes:

And even this "article" trying to minimize the guy, calls the move "puzzling". It's not an indictment of Cooper, it's yet another indictment of an inept Brown franchise.
 

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"- Jaylon Smith's nerve is definitely regenerating. He said there is a tremendous buzz around the practice facilities because it looks like he's going to fully heal in time, maybe this season, and shed the brace altogether."

In one week this board has gone from 10 page debates about the meaning of every tweet/comment referring to Jaylon to passing over a quote that indicates that he looks like he's going to shed the brace entirely like it is no big deal. Pretty exciting.
 

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As expected , from Dawg Pound Daily. Great source for impartial Brown news...

:rolleyes:

And even this "article" trying to minimize the guy, calls the move "puzzling". It's not an indictment of Cooper, it's yet another indictment of an inept Brown franchise.
Browns also got rid of Taylor the WR that Atlanta picked up. All teams make mistakes...Browns seem to make quite a bit more. As a UNC fan, Cooper was great, just hasn't worked out in the NFL. Hope he turns it around in Dallas.
 

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I don't want the Cooper experiment to fail, however, I am also realistic that every team in the league typically has some number of ex 1st-round picks that didn't work out for various reasons with other teams and that failed 1st round picks, especially Top 10 ones, have their tires kicked by just about everyone in the league to see if there is anything is there.

Many/most team have another team's former first round picks as their reclamation project dejour and the fans of those teams always salivate over the idea that their team will finally be the one to unlock the potential everyone saw when that 1st round pick came out in the draft yet who somehow failed to produce.

I get it -- Cooper is that guy for the Cowboys this year. It's worked out before with Mark Columbo. Nothing says it can't happen again. I'm just realistic that he is <likely> the same guy the the last 3 teams (including the hapless Browns) in the last 3 years didn't think was keeping on the roster.

I don't think it's really about Cooper. The experiment is with Collins at RT. If he can do that at least as good as Free last year, it's much easier to solve the LG spot.
 

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LOL at Ivie.

Its the Golden Cock Take 2.
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Going to wait until training camp is over to see if the Collins move takes place for real and not just to see if it will work.

That is the proper perspective until there we actually see it. Everyone is so eager to hear this they clearly missed the "implied" piece in the original post. Unless he came right out and said it, nothing has gone beyond the consideration point, which is where it was weeks ago.

Oh and Rod really was pumped...did a big fist pump when they drafted Ivie.
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Lucky really hacked off the coaches last year when he missed meetings multiple times.

He gone.
I get it, believe me lol I've been wanting whitehead gone for years haha

I'd still rather get his maximum effort to push Switzer to give his. I know Switzer is know as a hard worker but still it would hurt to get that little extra.
 

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That is the proper perspective until there we actually see it. Everyone is so eager to hear this they clearly missed the "implied" piece in the original post. Unless he came right out and said it, nothing has gone beyond the consideration point, which is where it was weeks ago.


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Duuude how did u get a gif to post? I can never get gifs or pics to post.
 

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Every year, Stephen Jones and Brad Sham do a one-hour conference call for season-ticket holders. Always interesting, but this year was especially so. Stephen is more forthcoming these days because of his prominence, I believe.

Among the very interesting points he made:

- Jonathan Cooper will start at left guard, and Lael Collins will be the right tackle. He didn't say that flat out, but he definitely implied it. He said they're looking at Collins hard at tackle, and that they had Cooper as a top 10 pick when he came out in the draft, and they think he fits this style.

- They will call Tony Romo if something happens to Dak. He said it frankly. He wasn't sure if Romo would be interested, but he had no qualms about calling McManus at CBS and letting him know of their interest. He thought McManus would eat up that kind of attention, too. I was surprised that Stephen was so open about this.

- Jaylon Smith's nerve is definitely regenerating. He said there is a tremendous buzz around the practice facilities because it looks like he's going to fully heal in time, maybe this season, and shed the brace altogether.

- Lucky Whitehead might as well pack his bags. Stephen said Ryan Switzer gives them a much shiftier returner, a more polished receiver, and a guy that can run the jet sweeps like Whitehead. He added that they want to package Switzer with Beasley in formations, and that Beasley's size has concerned them in terms of injury potential, so another receiver like him was crucial because he's so important to the offense and Dak. He referenced Edelman and Amendola as an example of how to use them both.

- Rico Gathers is improving. I hope I end up being dreadfully wrong about Gathers, and Stephen said he'd be very surprised if he didn't make the 53. He said he's totally committed to football, which is something they haven't always seen from players switching sports like this. He said Eberflus told him that Gathers was uncoverable in the red zone. Byron Jones can't cover his big frame.

- Ivie was entirely Rod Marinelli's pick. Stephen said that pick made Marinelli more giddy than any of the defensive picks because he loves powerful guys like Ivie that never take off a play.

- They chose Charlton over Watt primarily based on scheme, but they also think Charlton will be more impactful sooner than Watt. He said both have high ceilings, so it was a tough choice.

- He said the draft would probably have to be held at the stadium if the crowd was anything like Philly. The Star couldn't hold that many, he said.

Great recap, thanks!
 

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Broaddus thought Cooper's tape in Cleveland was good
 

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I don't think it's really about Cooper. The experiment is with Collins at RT. If he can do that at least as good as Free last year, it's much easier to solve the LG spot.

That won't be hard
 

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I don't think it's really about Cooper. The experiment is with Collins at RT. If he can do that at least as good as Free last year, it's much easier to solve the LG spot.

Bell was a bad OT, but actually played decently at LG in '15 for Tennessee. I could see him compete with Cooper for that LG spot, or at least be a decent back up.
 

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Great insight, thanks for that....personally, I can't wait to see Jaylon, his potential is unreal.
 

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"- Jaylon Smith's nerve is definitely regenerating. He said there is a tremendous buzz around the practice facilities because it looks like he's going to fully heal in time, maybe this season, and shed the brace altogether."

In one week this board has gone from 10 page debates about the meaning of every tweet/comment referring to Jaylon to passing over a quote that indicates that he looks like he's going to shed the brace entirely like it is no big deal. Pretty exciting.

you are still being ignored, so i gave you a like :lmao:
 

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That is the proper perspective until there we actually see it. Everyone is so eager to hear this they clearly missed the "implied" piece in the original post. Unless he came right out and said it, nothing has gone beyond the consideration point, which is where it was weeks ago.


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Look how close Spaulding is to sitting in the big chair.
 

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For this to work, he'll need to show something he hasn't show on his last 3 teams.

In Cleveland he was essentially their 5th guard until other players got hurt last year. Ie, they viewed him as the player of last resort.

This article excerpt last year from when they cut him doesn't make him out to be a guy that was once a Top 10 pick.

Cooper was picked up off waivers in October after he was released by the New England Patriots. Before that he was a part of the trade that sent Chandler Jones to the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals had picked Cooper seventh overall in the 2013 draft, but Cooper has not lived up to his high draft potential.

In Cleveland, Cooper was a low-cost, high-reward pick up that simply did not pan out. He spent most of the season as a backup to guards John Greco and Joel Bitonio. When those players were injured, the Browns turned to Spencer Drangoand Bailey before looking toward Cooper. Being fifth on the depth chart does not bode well for one’s future.

Nonetheless, when Bailey was suspended for a DUI, Cooper got his chance to play. His time on the field was not spectacular in any way. He was not terrible. He was got great. He was a run-of-the-mill player.
The hope here is that the Cowboys system is the perfect system for Cooper and that he can somehow avoid the injuries that have destroyed his career to date.

Fansided doesn't have as much credibility as bleacher report.
 

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Look how close Spaulding is to sitting in the big chair.

Spaulding looks a little jealous since Stephen's boy won a state championship as a QB at Highland Park.
 
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