Video: Does Stewart have inside info on Delmas? - 4/23/09

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41gy#;2743115 said:
If the Cowboys view Max Unger as a future starting LG, I approve drafting him at 51. I've given Bat a hard time, because I thought Unger was being projected as primarily a center. Sorry, Bat.

They obviously like him. He would be an upgrade over Kosier when he's ready. He is big and can get a little bigger and stronger. He does have great feet, and he was finishing his blocks. He moves well. He looked good getting to that linebacker, and we all know the Eagles and Giants love to crowd the line with them. He is not the mauler Wood is, but Unger is smooth and strong enough. He is going to beat you with his technique and great feet and smarts. A guy like Unger could help a runner like Felix Jones. Unger's athleticism or ability to pull and get to the second level would give the Cowboys' offensive line a boost. I can see Felix Jones running behind him on that sweep play to the left.

The Cowboys usually like the maulers or power players, so liking Unger tells me that Kosier has showed them that a little finesse on the offensive line can help. One of the first things Phillips did when he arrived, was to move McQuistan to LG. I just thought the Cowboys would want a power player at LG, with size. They have looked at them.

I didn't realize some teams were viewing him as primarily a guard. Hey, I was wrong about him. If you want that athleticism (lateral movement, ect...), Unger is the way to go.

The Cowboys need a guard, imo. Unger gets rid of Proctor and gives you a big, young, and athletic option at LG.

Max Unger may be the player they want to trade up for.

No apologies necessary bud. We all just want the best for our team! In addition to his versatility, I really believe Unger also brings potential leadership to that OL, especially if he eventually becomes the starting C. He is an in your face type, and even though he needs to get bigger, he does have a nasty punch and is always looking to finish. Is also great stalking LBs at the next level.


We would be lucky to get him. Exactly what Ciskowski was describing.
 

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BAT;2743867 said:
If Stewar had any inside info, he might still have his job. Even Wade does not have a say in who's drafted, per Jerry.

He didn't say that.
 

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dcfanatic;2744163 said:
He didn't say that.


Jerry said that only scouts and position coaches get votes on how to organize players on the board. Neither Jerry or Wade get any votes.


That is what I meant.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2743870 said:
I do think it's odd that a defensive coord that is 1 year removed from the team and knows Wade Phillips's scheme, is slurping Louis Delmas and saying "He does what they need him to do". So basically if he was still there he would pick Louis.


And if my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle. LOL



But I know what you are saying, likely he still has inside info, but I tend to doubt he has that much sway, otherwise he would still be there. If he helped choose the DBs at San Diego when he was there, then I want no part of him. The DBs personnel/production went UP when he left. The secondary was the Chargers' weak link when was DB coach. That's a fact.
 

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BAT;2744170 said:
Jerry said that only scouts and position coaches get votes on how to organize players on the board. Neither Jerry or Wade get any votes.

That is what I meant.

You are fogetting a major point.

The Defensive Coordinator is in there along with the scouts and position coaches.

And who's the defensive coordinator? Wade Phillips.

Jerry talks draft

I still think it's weird how the Cowoys did a press conference about the draft yesterday and head coach was not participating.
 

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dcfanatic;2744189 said:
You are fogetting a major point.

The Defensive Coordinator is in there along with the scouts and position coaches.

And who's the defensive coordinator? Wade Phillips.I still think it's weird how the Cowoys did a press conference about the draft yesterday and head coach was not participating.

Actually I did not forget that at all, Jerry specifically said that Wade did not have a vote. If he misspoke, then it is on Jerry. Anyway, Stephen would have corrected him if he made a mistake.


Stephen is good that way. I am kind of glad that Wade was not there. He is much more interesting when he is not in same vicinity as Jerry.
 

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BAT;2744342 said:
Actually I did not forget that at all, Jerry specifically said that Wade did not have a vote. If he misspoke, then it is on Jerry. Anyway, Stephen would have corrected him if he made a mistake.


Stephen is good that way. I am kind of glad that Wade was not there. He is much more interesting when he is not in same vicinity as Jerry.

DUDE.

I put the audio in the post.

How hard is it to admit you were wrong when the evidence is right there for you to listen to.

He never mentions Wade's name.

:bang2:

And he was talking about making up the board. Not about what players are actually drafted.

On draft day they are all there (jerry, stephen, coaches, scouts) and if it comes down to it Jerry will break the tie.

You are spewing misinformation. You are given the correct information.

And you still won't budge.

:bang2:

:lmao:
 

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dcfanatic;2744484 said:
DUDE.

I put the audio in the post.

How hard is it to admit you were wrong when the evidence is right there for you to listen to.

He never mentions Wade's name.

:bang2:

And he was talking about making up the board. Not about what players are actually drafted.

On draft day they are all there (jerry, stephen, coaches, scouts) and if it comes down to it Jerry will break the tie.

You are spewing misinformation. You are given the correct information.

And you still won't budge.

:bang2:

:lmao:

Jerry says head coach, is that Wade Phillips or not? C'mon you are just a drama queen about everything, aren't you?


And defensive coordinator is not a position coach. You are supposed to be some media wannabe aren't you? At least figure things out on your own if you want to get to the next level.


Getting tired of holding you hand and having to explain things real slow for you. Connect some dots on your own.
 

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Jerry says head coach, is that Wade Phillips or not? C'mon you are just a drama queen about everything, aren't you?

And defensive coordinator is not a position coach. You are supposed to be some media wannabe aren't you? At least figure things out on your own if you want to get to the next level.

Getting tired of holding you hand and having to explain things real slow for you. Connect some dots on your own.

He just said the COORDINATOR and POSITION COACHES.

Who is the defensive coordinator?

You said he said Wade's name specifically.

Attacking me isn't going to stop making you look like an idiot with all the evidence above, lol.

You are making a complete fool of yourself.

Just quit now. Save yourself the embarrassment.
 

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dcfanatic;2744527 said:
He just said the COORDINATOR and POSITION COACHES.

Who is the defensive coordinator?

You said he said Wade's name specifically.

Attacking me isn't going to stop making you look like an idiot with all the evidence above, lol.

You are making a complete fool of yourself.

Just quit now. Save yourself the embarrassment.


He also said Head Coach did not have vote. Was Jerry being cryptic, or can any reasonable person infer that he meant Wade?


Can you stop being a baby about this whole thing now?
 

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BAT;2744550 said:
He also said Head Coach did not have vote. Was Jerry being cryptic, or can any reasonable person infer that he meant Wade?


Can you stop being a baby about this whole thing now?


Dude, when he was saying The Headcoach, he was talking about historically since he took over.. go listen again.. talking about the head coaching position in general, not wade.. wade is both the HC, and the DC, therefore is a part of the evaluations in his Coordinating capacity.
 

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41gy#;2743862 said:
How many games did Montrae Holland play last year?

Did he eat his way out of Denver?

The Cowboys obviously like Max Unger even though he doesn't fit the Houck mold in terms of power or weight. Kosier isn't in that mold.

He didn't play because of multiple reasons:

1. He was traded in mid-season
2. The Red-Headed Genius, just like he did with Felix, ignored him.

When Wade finally went to Houck to ask if he was ready to play, Flozell wasn't looking like a guy getting abused and Romo didn't have to worry about the left side, because Proctor was in.

The fact is, he eventually played and he looked good.

He 'ate' his way out of Denver, because Denver uses a totally different blocking scheme then the Cowboys and they rely on quikcer more agile types..
 

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khiladi;2744807 said:
He didn't play because of multiple reasons:

1. He was traded in mid-season
2. The Red-Headed Genius, just like he did with Felix, ignored him.

When Wade finally went to Houck to ask if he was ready to play, Flozell wasn't looking like a guy getting abused and Romo didn't have to worry about the left side, because Proctor was in.

The fact is, he eventually played and he looked good.

He 'ate' his way out of Denver, because Denver uses a totally different blocking scheme then the Cowboys and they rely on quikcer more agile types..


Look, I think Holland is good to have around, but he isn't anything special. He's average at best. Is that bad? No. He did play a good game against the Seahawks.

I just think if you get a shot to upgrade and solidify the interior, you do it.

Romo's football life or life is worth adding a young, blue-chip player.

If Kosier has foot trouble and Holland goes down fast, again, you are looking at Cory Proctor at guard. That is going to get Romo killed. If Gurode has to miss a game, Unger could play center. Unger gets rid of Cory Proctor. The Cowboys will probably have to trade into the 40s to get him, anyway.

Spending a #2 pick on Unger helps Tony Romo stay healthy and alive, imo. The offensive line needs another blue-chip player, imo. Why settle for just average?

Unger could solidify the interior.
 

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How is Holland average at best? He was potentially the best OL in Denver the year prior to his release, and he was playing a system that wasn't even suited to his game. He has had games through his career, where he was flat-out dominant. With Holland in, that interior line becomes huge and the OL should be moving forward all the time, if they are changing their philosophy, including run-blocking schemes.

I am not against solidifying the interior line, but to simply ignore Holland when Dallas pretty much plays against Denver during training camp and have seen his game, is not very wise IMO. He now had Houck to coach him, and Houck was most likely one of the factors in him being here.
 

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khiladi;2752670 said:
How is Holland average at best? He was potentially the best OL in Denver the year prior to his release, and he was playing a system that wasn't even suited to his game. He has had games through his career, where he was flat-out dominant. With Holland in, that interior line becomes huge and the OL should be moving forward all the time, if they are changing their philosophy, including run-blocking schemes.

I am not against solidifying the interior line, but to simply ignore Holland when Dallas pretty much plays against Denver during training camp and have seen his game, is not very wise IMO. He now had Houck to coach him, and Houck was most likely one of the factors in him being here.

Holland could be a keeper, but obviously the Cowboys felt an upgrade was needed by taking Brewster as high as they did. Brewster is projected as an inside player even though he also has experience at OT.


Brewster IMO will also challenge Proctor's role as OG/C swing. There will be some camp battles on OL, FINALLY. I like the signing of Isdaner too.
 
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