Video: MiamiCowboy21 drops some truth! - 8/14/09

[dcfanatic]

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Knowing it is one thing.

But hearing the names read off like that makes you cringe.

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[romomania]

oh my.

 

[bbgun]

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Knowing it is one thing.

But hearing the names read off like that makes you cringe.

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"But Jerry just wants to win!" Or something like that. I forget what the latest talking point is.

 

[tomson75]

How profound.

/end sarcasm.

 

[dcfanatic]

How profound.

/end sarcasm.

You didn't like the ending?

:laugh2:

 

[tomson75]

You didn't like the ending?

:laugh2:

Damn... I admit it. I'm on my phone and I stopped listening with about 45 seconds left. I'll listen again when I get home. I'm sure that's the profound part I was missing.

 

[Monster Heel]

I disagree with Alan Ball being a bust.

Guy's a 7th round pick and he's about to be a contributor.

But basically MiamiCowboy is right.

 

[juck]

He is right,I think everyone is overeacting a bit over one game though.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I agree with maimi and it was pretty shocking how terrible them drafts ended for us.

 

[Monster Heel]

He is right,I think everyone is overeacting a bit over one game though.

This is the 2nd straight preseason the 2nd and 3rd teams have been horrible.

 

[TonyRomo#9]

i don't think the 06 was that terrible.. the 07, we have a starting olb, starting kicker, doug free is a solid backup. ball and brown are both serviceable depth, taken from late rounds that's what you expect... he is calling anyone who isn't a starter a bust. late round picks aren't expected to be starters..

we have to much talent in our starters for a bunch guys to crack in there..

06-
Bobby 1st(so far a bust)

fasano 2nd(a good player, dramatically upgraded however and shipped.)

jason hatcher 3rd(has been a good backup for a while now. im ok getting that outta a 3rd)

Pat watkins 5th(second day pick, not lived to potential, but for a 5th round pick can you call him a bust? he is serviceable)

pat mcQ 7th (probably our best depth in OL behind holland and free. serviceable do you feel great about him playing alot? what backup OL in the league do you. and again 7th round.. hardly able to be called a bust)

07

Anthony spencer 1st (talented, starting OLB)

Stanback 4th (a project is what he is, talented, but can't seem to get into WR. can you call a 4th a bust though. there are now expectations.)

doug free 4th (possibly our best backup OL. has looked good, im a free fan)

Folk 6th (great kicker. money)

deon anderson 6th (starting fullback, and big special teams contributor)

courtney brown 7th (backup safety good for a 7th)

alan ball 7th (serviceable depth at corner again good for a 7th)

i think the only guys you could call a bust is james marten, a 3nd round OL who not contributing at all. and arguably bobby, so far.. he still could shed that tag though.


AND!! there is a reason the guy only said those two, not the year before, or the year after.. because both of those were fantastic drafts.. does every single draft have to get probowlers?

05 had 3 DWare, MB3, and Ratliff. not to mention marcus spears, kevin burnett and chris canty.. all have been starters.. if you count nickelbacker, which plays alot too.

and 08 obviously had felix, jenkins, bennet, choice, scandrick. every one of them starter quality,

so spare me the sky is falling we have terrible depth talk cause we can't draft talk.. its been one game, we have just as good if not better depth then anyone else. we are most worried about OL depth. we have 3-4 that can fill in allright, ill let you argue about procter, but he is ok... how many teams have solid guys behind every spot.

 

[RCowboyFan]

i don't think the 06 was that terrible.. the 07, we have a starting olb, starting kicker, doug free is a solid backup. ball and brown are both serviceable depth, taken from late rounds that's what you expect... he is calling anyone who isn't a starter a bust. late round picks aren't expected to be starters..

we have to much talent in our starters for a bunch guys to crack in there..

06-
Bobby 1st(so far a bust)

fasano 2nd(a good player, dramatically upgraded however and shipped.)

jason hatcher 3rd(has been a good backup for a while now. im ok getting that outta a 3rd)

Pat watkins 5th(second day pick, not lived to potential, but for a 5th round pick can you call him a bust? he is serviceable)

pat mcQ 7th (probably our best depth in OL behind holland and free. serviceable do you feel great about him playing alot? what backup OL in the league do you. and again 7th round.. hardly able to be called a bust)

07

Anthony spencer 1st (talented, starting OLB)

Stanback 4th (a project is what he is, talented, but can't seem to get into WR. can you call a 4th a bust though. there are now expectations.)

doug free 4th (possibly our best backup OL. has looked good, im a free fan)

Folk 6th (great kicker. money)

deon anderson 6th (starting fullback, and big special teams contributor)

courtney brown 7th (backup safety good for a 7th)

alan ball 7th (serviceable depth at corner again good for a 7th)

i think the only guys you could call a bust is james marten, a 3nd round OL who not contributing at all. and arguably bobby, so far.. he still could shed that tag though.


AND!! there is a reason the guy only said those two, not the year before, or the year after.. because both of those were fantastic drafts.. does every single draft have to get probowlers?

05 had 3 DWare, MB3, and Ratliff. not to mention marcus spears, kevin burnett and chris canty.. all have been starters.. if you count nickelbacker, which plays alot too.

and 08 obviously had felix, jenkins, bennet, choice, scandrick. every one of them starter quality,

so spare me the sky is falling we have terrible depth talk cause we can't draft talk.. its been one game, we have just as good if not better depth then anyone else. we are most worried about OL depth. we have 3-4 that can fill in allright, ill let you argue about procter, but he is ok... how many teams have solid guys behind every spot.

I think he went little bit overboard calling Free and Ball a bust. 2006 Draft was absimal, no doubt about it.

You know, we fans have tunnel view about our team. When you call drafts a bust, you got to do some comparison with other teams, then you can say. No matter how great you think other teams draft, there are maybe 2-3 at most in NFL who hit on every draft, even that is questionable.

The biggest issue with the team has been OL issues, i.e. via draft. Lets hope Doug Free develops into a good OT eventually.

 

[dcfanatic]

i don't think the 06 was that terrible.. the 07, we have a starting olb, starting kicker, doug free is a solid backup. ball and brown are both serviceable depth, taken from late rounds that's what you expect... he is calling anyone who isn't a starter a bust. late round picks aren't expected to be starters..

we have to much talent in our starters for a bunch guys to crack in there..

06-
Bobby 1st(so far a bust)

fasano 2nd(a good player, dramatically upgraded however and shipped.)

jason hatcher 3rd(has been a good backup for a while now. im ok getting that outta a 3rd)

Pat watkins 5th(second day pick, not lived to potential, but for a 5th round pick can you call him a bust? he is serviceable)

pat mcQ 7th (probably our best depth in OL behind holland and free. serviceable do you feel great about him playing alot? what backup OL in the league do you. and again 7th round.. hardly able to be called a bust)

07

Anthony spencer 1st (talented, starting OLB)

Stanback 4th (a project is what he is, talented, but can't seem to get into WR. can you call a 4th a bust though. there are now expectations.)

doug free 4th (possibly our best backup OL. has looked good, im a free fan)

Folk 6th (great kicker. money)

deon anderson 6th (starting fullback, and big special teams contributor)

courtney brown 7th (backup safety good for a 7th)

alan ball 7th (serviceable depth at corner again good for a 7th)

i think the only guys you could call a bust is james marten, a 3nd round OL who not contributing at all. and arguably bobby, so far.. he still could shed that tag though.


AND!! there is a reason the guy only said those two, not the year before, or the year after.. because both of those were fantastic drafts.. does every single draft have to get probowlers?

05 had 3 DWare, MB3, and Ratliff. not to mention marcus spears, kevin burnett and chris canty.. all have been starters.. if you count nickelbacker, which plays alot too.

and 08 obviously had felix, jenkins, bennet, choice, scandrick. every one of them starter quality,

so spare me the sky is falling we have terrible depth talk cause we can't draft talk.. its been one game, we have just as good if not better depth then anyone else. we are most worried about OL depth. we have 3-4 that can fill in allright, ill let you argue about procter, but he is ok... how many teams have solid guys behind every spot.

Have you ever heard the old phrase 'the 3rd thru 7th' rounds are where you build your foundation.

You just said we should have no expectations for a 4th round pick.

 

[bayeslife]

:laugh2:

Look, even if you hit on 20% of your draft, that's a high amount compared the other 31 teams in this league.

The Patriots and Eagles are the only two that come to mind in terms of number of players drafted and how many are still on the team, doing well in.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Have you ever heard the old phrase 'the 3rd thru 7th' rounds are where you build your foundation.

You just said we should have no expectations for a 4th round pick.

Ever heard of having no perspective? Half of all first round picks bust out of the league. The percentage gets worse the farther you get down in the draft.

If you can hit on two 2nd day picks at all then you are ahead of the pack.

A more precise statement would be if you can hit on one out of every 4 fouth rounders you are doing very well. Barber, Free and Choice say hello.

 

[bayeslife]

Have you ever heard the old phrase 'the 3rd thru 7th' rounds are where you build your foundation.

You just said we should have no expectations for a 4th round pick.

How can that be an old phrase when 7 round drafts are only like 15 years old?

 

[tomson75]

Ever heard of having no perspective? Half of all first round picks bust out of the league. The percentage gets worse the farther you get down in the draft.

If you can hit on two 2nd day picks at all then you are ahead of the pack.

A more precise statement would be if you can hit on one out of every 4 fouth rounders you are doing very well. Barber, Free and Choice say hello.

Thank you.

Our drafting isn't new to scrutiny, and every time it is, ours is proven to be more effective than most in the NFL....yet somehow people still fail to comprehend "perspective" in this regard.

 

[Hostile]

Some people make the Draft and off season a hell of a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

24 players on Offense assuming the following.

QB...UDFA, trade, 4th round

RB...4th round, 2nd round, 4th round

FB...6th round

WR...trade, 7th round, UDFA, UDFA, 4th round

TE...3rd round, 2nd round, 7th round

OT...2nd round, FA, 4th round, 7th round

OG...FA, FA, UDFA, trade

C...2nd round

That means 14 of them are Draft picks, 4 are UDFAs, 3 are FAs, and 3 are trades.



25 players on Defense assuming the following.

DE...1st round, FA, 3rd round, UDFA, UDFA

NT...7th round, FA

OLB...1st round, 1st round, 4th round, 5th round

ILB...4th round, FA, 1st round, 3rd round, 5th round

CB...1st round, 1st round, 5th round, 7th round, 7th round

FS...FA, 5th round

SS...FA, 6th round

That breaks down as 18 draft picks, 2 UDFAs, and 5 FAs.


4 players on Special teams.

K...6th round, 5th round

P...UDFA

LS...UDFA

That breaks down as 2 draft picks and 2 UDFAs.

34 of 53 roster spots are Draft picks. Safe to say some of those Draft picks are replacing other Draft picks who have departed. Kevin Burnett comes to mind immediately. Remember the NFL is a business and Free Agency takes players away.

8 more players are UDFAs, including our starting QB.

42 of 53 roster spots directly covered by the Scouting department. Would someone like to point out to me which of those 42 could not make another NFL roster?

8 Free Agents.

3 trades.



Some of you do not have a realistic expectation of how to build an NFL team. Sorry to burst your bubble though I doubt you will admit it popped.

 

[Mansta54]

This is the 2nd straight preseason the 2nd and 3rd teams have been horrible.

Oh darn, is the preseason over already...

 

[Hostile]

Oh darn, is the preseason over already...

It ended Thursday night. Were you asleep again?