Video: Tony Romo pass to Terry Glenn gets intercepted.

[Next_years_Champs]

You cared enough to read it and respond.

Here's my take on the Washington Commanders.

NFC East

1. Dallas Cowboys
2. New York Giants
3. Washington Commanders
4. Philadelphia Eagles

They clearly earned their position in the standings........

 

[MikMak]

Here is my thought. The Commanders are going to Seattle where Seattle is 7-1 and playing VERY well. Saturday at 7:30pm the Commanders will be heading home permanently.

Maybe we will. I'm not so sure that Seattle is as good as you say though. They've only beaten one team with a winning record.


I don't think the Commanders are an amazing team. They've been playing real well lately but they don't have a ton of talent. Clearly the Cowboys are a more talented team.

The Commanders weren't stacked with talent when the season began and they've lost Sean Taylor, Carlos Rogers, Randy Thomas, Jon Jansen for the year. The quarterback is a career backup. The starting Right tackle is an undrafted rookie.


We've been playing with a lot of heart but I'm not sure how far that will carry us.

You honestly can't disagree that the Cowboys biggest problem right now is their attitude?

What else do you think it is?

I'm not trolling I'm just being honest. I think if the Cowboys grow a set of balls and quit pointing fingers than nobody can beat them. Maybe the Packers but I think the Cowboys have more talent.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Looking at the replay, I don't think Henry should have been flagged. However, I was screaming bloody murder at the time.

 

[MikMak]

Here's my take on the Washington Commanders.

NFC East

1. Dallas Cowboys
2. New York Giants
3. Washington Commanders
4. Philadelphia Eagles

They clearly earned their position in the standings........

I agree.


But none of that matters now. It's a new season.

 

[MikMak]

Nonsensical reply.

Indeed.

You call it a nonsensical reply and also acknowledge that you didn't read it.

Good job.

 

[YosemiteSam]

What else do you think?

1. Todd Collins is a hell of alot more of a QB than Campbell. Campbell is at best a game manager, not a playmaker. You are better off without Campbell.
2. Winning in the regular season != Winning in the playoffs. The level of play of the winning teams goes up, and there are no more bottom feeders to pad your win column with.
3. All the Cowboys injured are returning for the playoffs. (though TO is still in question about exactly when, but Newman, Ratliff, Gurode, and Watkins are returning for sure)
4. The only reason Springs could cheat up and jump routes was because TO was out of the game. He tried that with TO in the game and the Skins gave up 4 TDs and 173 yards. It also allowed the Skins to cheat up and stack the box, that won't happen either.
5. Randle El is still a #3 receiver at best and Moss is still a #2 at best and It's going to be damn hard to win without top flight playmakers. The Commanders do not have them. Portis you say? I reply with 3.9 yards per carry. How long can the little guy go before his returns to his history of injuries? Even diamond tip drills break with excessive use. Portis is no diamond tipped running back.
6. Shaun Suisham is your kicker. He has looked good so far, but he is still Shaun Suisham.

Thats enough for now.

 

[random Cs]

Aikman explained the difference, Springs beat Glenn to the spot. When the contact is made the players are nearly shoulder to shoulder.

Henry is playing through Antwaan and makes contact before the ball gets there. Whether he was going for the ball or not doesn't matter.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Aikman explained the difference, Springs beat Glenn to the spot. When the contact is made the players are nearly shoulder to shoulder.

Henry is playing through Antwaan and makes contact before the ball gets there. Whether he was going for the ball or not doesn't matter.

Listen, watch Aikman try to explain any call during the game. Then follow that up by watching the NFL's Official Review and they almost everytime dispute everything Aikman says. It's quite embarrassing.

Whats even worse, most of the time it happens on PI calls. It's like Aikman has no idea what he is talking about and is just firing up an ill-advised opinions.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

Aikman explained the difference, Springs beat Glenn to the spot. When the contact is made the players are nearly shoulder to shoulder.

Henry is playing through Antwaan and makes contact before the ball gets there. Whether he was going for the ball or not doesn't matter.

Oh BS Henry and Randel El hit shoulder to shoulder just like Springs and Glenn. If that play wasn't PI (and I agree it wasn't) then Henry's play wasn't either.

Its not really that significant a play as things worked out but the refs should be able to call plays consistently.

 

[random Cs]

Listen, watch Aikman try to explain any call during the game. Then follow that up by watching the NFL's Official Review and they almost everytime dispute everything Aikman says. It's quite embarrassing.

Whats even worse, most of the time it happens on PI calls. It's like Aikman has no idea what he is talking about and is just firing up an ill-advised opinions.

Regardless, Springs beat Glenn to the spot and Henry was playing through Antwaan.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Regardless, Springs beat Glenn to the spot and Henry was playing through Antwaan.

You have your Foreskin goggles on. Henry's hands were up in at the same position as Antwaan's. Go back Skinland and take your googles with you.

 

[random Cs]

Oh BS Henry and Randel El hit shoulder to shoulder just like Springs and Glenn. If that play wasn't PI (and I agree it wasn't) then Henry's play wasn't either.

Its not really that significant a play as things worked out but the refs should be able to call plays consistently.

I'm sorry, but they are not the same.

Henry makes contact with Antwaan's back shoulder with respect to the football. Springs makes contact with Glenn's front shoulder with respect to the football.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'm sorry, but they are not the same.

Henry makes contact with Antwaan's back shoulder with respect to the football. Springs makes contact with Glenn's front shoulder with respect to the football.

Foreskin google.

 

[MikMak]

1. Todd Collins is a hell of alot more of a QB than Campbell. Campbell is at best a game manager, not a playmaker. You are better off without Campbell.

1. 
   
   He is certainly playing well and Campbell is still learning the game. I want Collins for the playoffs.
   
   

   [*]Winning in the regular season != Winning in the playoffs. The level of play of the winning teams goes up, and there are no more bottom feeders to pad your win column with.

   
   Tell that to the San Diego Chargers.
   
   
   

   [*]All the Cowboys injured are returning for the playoffs. (though TO is still in question about exactly when, but Newman, Ratliff, Gurode, and Watkins are returning for sure)

   
   That will surely help you guys.
   
   

   [*]The only reason Springs could cheat up and jump routes was because TO was out of the game. He tried that with TO in the game and the Skins gave up 4 TDs and 173 yards. It also allowed the Skins to cheat up and stack the box, that won't happen either.

   
   The Commanders D will have to play based on who's on the field. I'm sure the defensive strategy changes when TO is playing. The Commanders D was playing well against the Cowboys in the first match up. Those TO touchdowns came when Sean Taylor left the game.
   
   Now we have Landry playing free safety and he's been playing very well. I have no doubt that a healthy TO would pose a serious challenge but I don't think he'd run over us like the last time he played us.
   
   

   [*]Randle El is still a #3 receiver at best and Moss is still a #2 at best and It's going to be damn hard to win without top flight playmakers. The Commanders do not have them. Portis you say? I reply with 3.9 yards per carry. How long can the little guy go before his returns to his history of injuries? Even diamond tip drills break with excessive use. Portis is no diamond tipped running back.

   
   If Randle El is a #3 receiver with 51 receptions for 728 yards I'll take it.
   
   But you have a point. The Commanders don't have a ton of playmakers. If they go deep into the playoffs they'll have to do it like they've always done it under Gibbs. By playing good team football.
   
   Gibbs won 3 supers and went to four and only one player is in the hall of fame. John Riggins.
   
   

   [*]Shaun Suisham is your kicker. He has looked good so far, but he is still Shaun Suisham.

Thats enough for now.

That's hardly an argument

 

[pugilist]

Aikman explained the difference, Springs beat Glenn to the spot. When the contact is made the players are nearly shoulder to shoulder.

Henry is playing through Antwaan and makes contact before the ball gets there. Whether he was going for the ball or not doesn't matter.

might want to watch the vids again and/or review the actual rule

in both instances (Glenn/Springs and Henry/Randle El) the DB and the Receiver have equal rights to the ball, however, the DB cannot go through the receivers back to get there.

it was a good no call on Springs and a bad call on Henry

 

[Next_years_Champs]

I'm sorry, but they are not the same.

Henry makes contact with Antwaan's back shoulder with respect to the football. Springs makes contact with Glenn's front shoulder with respect to the football.

That's what I thought you don't even know what the definition of "playing through" a receiver is. You need to learn the rules and what the terms mean, your just don't know what you are talking about.

 

[hermitkid]

Just curious, anybody actually have the Glenn play in question available as video?

 

[Next_years_Champs]

Just curious, anybody actually have the Glenn play in question available as video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lsCRtzrH2E

It was posted on the thread opener.........

 

[random Cs]

That's what I thought you don't even know what the definition of "playing through" a receiver is. You need to learn the rules and what the terms mean, your just don't know what you are talking about.

Then educate me or tell me why I am incorrect. I am not here for some Commander/Cowboy thing, I'm here to defend the referee's because people are claiming inconsistency. (I am a zebra myself and I know the rules pretty well)

These are simple plays, quick slants. Trust me, an NFL referee knows how to call this play with a blindfold on. There is a reason why flags fly from multiple refs on one play and not on another.

On the PI, Randle-El is in-between the defender and the ball. On the int, Springs is in-between the defender and the ball.

 

[hermitkid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lsCRtzrH2E

It was posted on the thread opener.........

Yeah my bad, I meant to write Henry.